2016/11/03 19:33:09
NucleusX
I'm over it, we're all over it, it is what it is, so rather than complain about things, some of us more daring people can move on
with constructive discussion to reign in these fire-breathing suicidal monsters. The main point is obviously thermal pads, and
personally I've decided to go all out and replace all of the thermal pads on the VRAM, and VRM's with new thermal pads from
Thermal Grizzly. They cost a bit more for their better specs, and some think it might be excessive, but i believe they'l prove
beneficial by sinking heat more efficiently, and achieve worthwhile gains to a card that could really use it right now. I've taken
the overkill path, but its up to the individual to decide how far to go here. The place i started first was the VRAM. To counter the
possibility that there wasn't enough pressure bearing down on VRAM pads, and to keep the cooler layers evenly spaced throughout,
I've selected 20mm x 1.5mm strips for the VRAM and VRM's on the same side of the base-plate. On the other side of the base-plate,
between it and the heat-sink at the VRM's is a 20mm x 0.5mm strip, I thought it was important to keep this one as low as possible.
Finally, a 20mm x 1.5mm strip between the PCB and back-plate. You can use 10mm strips if you like, but i chose 20mm to have
more surface area  to make contact with, and get this thing well fortified and torture-proof, well, that's the idea anyways ! That's
my approach, and I'm about to dive right into it, but i can't decide on whether i should make the VRAM thermal pads as strips to
cover multiple memory modules, or give them their own square thermal pad, i'd like to know what others have to say about this.
 
2016/11/03 20:00:35
pingseng
I willing to hands on too. Rather than sit and complain "we need problem been fixed not teach us how to fix by ourselves as customer"
2016/11/03 20:03:46
Scarlet-Tech
Most of my original cards had strips on the vram, while the newest cards have individual squares.

All of my waterworks used individuals squares rather than a strip.

I say go individual personally.

As for the thermal grizzly pads, could you see if they are firm or soft pads for me? I recently started using the thermal grizzly kryonaut TIM, and really like it. I would say it is as good as MX-4, and I like mx-4 a lot.
2016/11/03 20:10:19
libneon
NucleusX
I'm over it, we're all over it, it is what it is, so rather than complain about things, some of us more daring people can move on
with constructive discussion to reign in these fire-breathing suicidal monsters. The main point is obviously thermal pads, and
personally I've decided to go all out and replace all of the thermal pads on the VRAM, and VRM's with new thermal pads from
Thermal Grizzly. They cost a bit more for their better specs, and some think it might be excessive, but i believe they'l prove
beneficial by sinking heat more efficiently, and achieve worthwhile gains to a card that could really use it right now. I've taken
the overkill path, but its up to the individual to decide how far to go here. The place i started first was the VRAM. To counter the
possibility that there wasn't enough pressure bearing down on VRAM pads, and to keep the cooler layers evenly spaced throughout,
I've selected 20mm x 1.5mm strips for the VRAM and VRM's on the same side of the base-plate. On the other side of the base-plate,
between it and the heat-sink at the VRM's is a 20mm x 0.5mm strip, I thought it was important to keep this one as low as possible.
Finally, a 20mm x 1.5mm strip between the PCB and back-plate. You can use 10mm strips if you like, but i chose 20mm to have
more surface area  to make contact with, and get this thing well fortified and torture-proof, well, that's the idea anyways ! That's
my approach, and I'm about to dive right into it, but i can't decide on whether i should make the VRAM thermal pads as strips to
cover multiple memory modules, or give them their own square thermal pad, i'd like to know what others have to say about this.
 




You should take some pics of the process if you can, I'd be interested in how it turns out.
2016/11/03 20:44:21
NucleusX
Scarlet-Tech
Most of my original cards had strips on the vram, while the newest cards have individual squares.

All of my waterworks used individuals squares rather than a strip.

I say go individual personally.

As for the thermal grizzly pads, could you see if they are firm or soft pads for me? I recently started using the thermal grizzly kryonaut TIM, and really like it. I would say it is as good as MX-4, and I like mx-4 a lot.



After just literally watching the new Youtube vidz from Jayztwocents and Gamers Nexus, i got my first insight into the free solution
that EVGA are sending out. They are larger than i first assumed, so I just might get this instead of strips and customize sizes myself.
 
The Minus Pad 8 series appears to be flexible and soft.
 
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/33329/thermal-grizzly-minus-pad-8-100x100x1-5mm-thermal-pad 
 
As for the TIM, i have a tube of MX4 in the toolkit i could use and tbh the MX4 is still quite a useful TIM currently, but I'm considering
using another kind with better thermal specs, not sure yet. Whats the Kryonaut like, is it superior in w/mk ?
2016/11/03 20:47:27
NucleusX
libneon
 
You should take some pics of the process if you can, I'd be interested in how it turns out.



I just might. I took a stack of high res photos while deconstructing my card, so i'll take a bunch more on the reconstruction. 
2016/11/03 20:57:30
NucleusX
Just looked it up, the Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is rated @ 12.5 w/mk, so i think I'm definitely buying a 1 gram tube of that. 
Should have enough left over to do a couple of my CPU's while I'm at it too. That should deliver great results hopefully. The
Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut claims to have 73 w/mk, wonder what kinda temperature numbers that would yield. 
2016/11/05 00:43:26
NucleusX
Can anyone else out there comment on whether to use long strips or singular squares of thermal pads on VRAM ?
The strip can cover multiple VRAM modules at the same time and will have more surface area to contact to, but
I'm not entirely sure of the downsides of this, if there are any. Your input is appreciated !
2016/11/05 00:54:23
delicieuxz
I'd also like to know whether there are performance benefits to using strips vs individual pieces.
2016/11/05 01:09:42
lebel
NucleusX
Can anyone else out there comment on whether to use long strips or singular squares of thermal pads on VRAM ?
The strip can cover multiple VRAM modules at the same time and will have more surface area to contact to, but
I'm not entirely sure of the downsides of this, if there is are any. Your input is appreciated !


The higher the thermal conductivity (W/m-k) the better and If possible use the lowest thickness whilst still making full contact i.e 0.5mm.
Another positive effect (see link) in lowering the temperature can be achieved through the use of thermal pads together with (non conductive) liquid thermal pastes, i.e; MX-4. This looks interesting...
 
Interesting link on the subject
https://hw-lab.com/therma...lity.html#introduction
 
 

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