Yes there's a difference. If the thermal pads on those RAM chips closer to the mosfets aren't properly spaced to the plate, you will notice it a lot sooner. From silicone lottery to thermal pad lottery, thanks evga!

brokencross
Well guys, I contacted my retailer and they said they would perform an exchange. So I just got an MSI 1070.
 
This doesn't mean I won't ever buy EVGA again, but it just seemed the right way to do this. At least for me.

I am very happy to hear that they switched out the card for you. Don't ever bpet anyone put you down for that, and I hope your card serves you very well.

Please, let us know how it goes?

Oddly enough my previous card (asus r9 280x dcii top) had no heatsinks on VRM nor VRAM by design.  It had known artifact issues when pushed.   I was in the process of adding a copper midplate on the VRAMs (a mod I saw on youtube) but then a heatpipe was running right above one of the VRAMS so close that I couldn't reliably fit copper between them. So I called the whole mod off.  Decided to upgrade days later, went with this 1070, only to stumble on these similar issues 2 days after purchase!
 

Remember thermal pads are a poor cousin for heat transference. So we have; Fans-plate-Pad-Vrm-PCB-Pad-Plate.
So the Mid plate removes heat through the pads somewhat inefficiently. Some reports say people have cards with pads that are not fully or partially not touching this plate from the Vrm. So is the mid plate a just poor design here anyway?

I wish my retailer would take my EVGA card back.
What card (1070) would you go for? Is there any sane manufacturer left who put proper cooling to all components?

lebel
Remember thermal pads are a poor cousin for heat transference. So we have; Fans-plate-Pad-Vrm-PCB-Pad-Plate.
So the Mid plate removes heat through the pads somewhat inefficiently. Some reports say people have cards with pads that are not fully or partially not touching this plate from the Vrm. So is the mid plate a just poor design here anyway?

I think you are blurring the two issues. Reports of "not touching fully" is at the VRAMs to VRAM thermal pads.

kevbeer

lebel
Remember thermal pads are a poor cousin for heat transference. So we have; Fans-plate-Pad-Vrm-PCB-Pad-Plate.
So the Mid plate removes heat through the pads somewhat inefficiently. Some reports say people have cards with pads that are not fully or partially not touching this plate from the Vrm. So is the mid plate a just poor design here anyway?

I think you are blurring the two issues. Best not to comment.

Bluring? I'm not sure you grasped my post. I will try to simplify it for you...
 
1)Fans- 2)plate- 3)Pad- 4)Vrm- 5)PCB- 6)Pad- 7)Plate
 
Issue 1; 6)Pads - recommended, Evga will supply to help with better cooling
 
Issue 2; 3)pads - some have reported that these have not been in full contact.
 
My point 3; Isn't the mid plate just a bad design when they could of just used a standard proprietary heatsink to directly attached to all GPU, vrm/vram?
 
 

lebel

kevbeer

lebel
Remember thermal pads are a poor cousin for heat transference. So we have; Fans-plate-Pad-Vrm-PCB-Pad-Plate.
So the Mid plate removes heat through the pads somewhat inefficiently. Some reports say people have cards with pads that are not fully or partially not touching this plate from the Vrm. So is the mid plate a just poor design here anyway?

I think you are blurring the two issues. Best not to comment.

Bluring? I'm not sure you grasped my post. I will try to simplify it for you...
 
1)Fans- 2)plate- 3)Pad- 4)Vrm- 5)PCB- 6)Pad- 7)Plate
 
Issue 1; 6)Pads - recommended, Evga will supply to help with better cooling
 
Issue 2; 3)pads - some have reported that these have not been in full contact.
 
My point 3; Isn't the mid plate just a bad design when they could of just used a standard proprietary heatsink to directly attached to all GPU, vrm/vram?
 
 

His point was that the VRAM pads have either poor or no contact.. The VRM in every situation has shown to have full contact in every case.

Scarlet-Tech

lebel

kevbeer

lebel
Remember thermal pads are a poor cousin for heat transference. So we have; Fans-plate-Pad-Vrm-PCB-Pad-Plate.
So the Mid plate removes heat through the pads somewhat inefficiently. Some reports say people have cards with pads that are not fully or partially not touching this plate from the Vrm. So is the mid plate a just poor design here anyway?

I think you are blurring the two issues. Best not to comment.

Bluring? I'm not sure you grasped my post. I will try to simplify it for you...
 
1)Fans- 2)plate- 3)Pad- 4)Vrm- 5)PCB- 6)Pad- 7)Plate
 
Issue 1; 6)Pads - recommended, Evga will supply to help with better cooling
 
Issue 2; 3)pads - some have reported that these have not been in full contact.
 
My point 3; Isn't the mid plate just a bad design when they could of just used a standard proprietary heatsink to directly attached to all GPU, vrm/vram?
 
 

His point was that the VRAM pads have either poor or no contact.. The VRM in every situation has shown to have full contact in every case.

 
So it was a typo lol, my bad....Maybe I will start saying those things beginning with V to be on the safe side

Looking at vids of the founders edition 1070 card, the VRMS poke through a window in the midplate on that too (i.e. they are not heatsinked on founders card either.)