arestavo
 
 
Also, I'm not a thermoengineer, but without a backplate the backside of you VRMs actually cool BETTER than a card with a backplate since those had an air gap between the PCB and backplate - which makes for poor thermal conductivity. Without a backplate to begin with, your card is cooled better on the backside!

^ This I just had to laugh, as stated before, with the thermal pad fix the back plate now acts as an additional heatsink.

pawelblyskal

Sajin

pawelblyskal

Sajin
The good news is you don't need the thermal pads at all.

Are you just trolling me or did you just wake up right now? The BIOS "hack" that EVGA is offering simply runs the fans at a higher speed and is unacceptable as the VRMs are still running much hotter than normal. It does not solve the defective cooler design, only the thermal pad fix will and this thermal pad fix REQUIRES a backplate.

Not trolling at all. Taken from  ... "For those users who want additional cooling beyond the VBIOS update, EVGA has optional thermal pads available. This update is not required, however; EVGA will make it available free of charge to any customer who is interested."

Wrong. The thermal pad fix IS required as the VRMs are still running significantly hotter than they should even with increased fan speed (and noise on top of that). They are including the large thermal pad for the back since the backplate acts as an additional heatsink to solve this problem.

Obviously you haven't read the web article I gave you. Maybe you'll read this one... http://forums.evga.com/EV...e-Update-m2573491.aspx

pawelblyskal

arestavo
 
 
Also, I'm not a thermoengineer, but without a backplate the backside of you VRMs actually cool BETTER than a card with a backplate since those had an air gap between the PCB and backplate - which makes for poor thermal conductivity. Without a backplate to begin with, your card is cooled better on the backside!

^ This I just had to laugh, as stated before, with the thermal pad fix the back plate now acts as an additional heatsink.

Hard facts then?
 
 
My 1080 ACX 3.0, which I've removed the backplate from, has the VRM temps running at 60C on the VRM solder joint posts sticking out the back. 60C off of the metal bits that connect directly through the PCB to the VRM section.
 
Your card has a smaller 4+1 power delivery system and 170W TDP compared to my 1080s 5+1 and 180W TDP.
 
I tested this by looping Valley at 2202MHz/11,114MHz and measuring with a wireless IR gun.
 
Granted, your card may run hotter if you don't have very good case airflow.

Sajin
Obviously you haven't read the web article I gave you. Maybe you'll read this one... 

The information in the link you posted shows the bios "hack" still have the VRMs running well over 95c+ with an increase of fan noise TWO fold. Fan is running double time and still the VRMs are running unacceptably hot. ONLY with the complete thermal pad fix (including backplate) will this issue be solved. You're not going to win this argument as the test are in....  just look at the results at gamersnexus in the link YOU provided.
 
 

arestavo
 
Your card has a smaller 4+1 power delivery system and 170W TDP compared to my 1080s 5+1 and 180W TDP.
 

EXACTLY, less VRMs means that the 4 available have to produce more power (170w vs your 180w) hence they running hotter than even your 1080.
 
42 watts per VRM on my 1070
36 watts per VRM on your 1080

pawelblyskal

Sajin
Obviously you haven't read the web article I gave you. Maybe you'll read this one... 

You must be trolling. This is too funny. The information in the link you posted shows the bios "hack" still have the VRMs running well over 95c+ with an increase of fan noise TWO fold. Fan is running double time and still the VRMs are running unacceptably hot. ONLY with the complete thermal pad fix (including backplate) will this issue be solved. You're not going to win this argument as the test are in....  just look at the results at gamersnexus in the link YOU provided.
 
 

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2666-evga-heat-solution-thermal-imaging-of-vrm-1080-ftw
 
That article? It is for the FTW model and it has a much larger power delivery system. You don't have a FTW model.

pawelblyskal

arestavo
 
Your card has a smaller 4+1 power delivery system and 170W TDP compared to my 1080s 5+1 and 180W TDP.
 

EXACTLY, less VRMs means that the 4 available have to produce more power (170w vs your 180w) hence they running hotter than even your 1080.

Please take a looksee at the FTW specs again - the FTW models run a 10+2 vs your 4+1. By your reasoning my 5+1 should be burning up - it isn't, I assure you as my IR readings have shown me.

pawelblyskal

Sajin
Obviously you haven't read the web article I gave you. Maybe you'll read this one... 

The information in the link you posted shows the bios "hack" still have the VRMs running well over 95c+ with an increase of fan noise TWO fold. Fan is running double time and still the VRMs are running unacceptably hot. ONLY with the complete thermal pad fix (including backplate) will this issue be solved. You're not going to win this argument as the test are in....  just look at the results at gamersnexus in the link YOU provided.
 
 

Taken from gamersnexus...
 

Here's two side-by-side thermal images of EVGA's 1080 FTW VRM (close-up) with max temperature indicators, as taken at an ambient of 22C. The left image is before EVGA's BIOS update, the right image is after the BIOS update (more aggressive fan RPM). Between the two, we're seeing a difference of ~14C, resultant of the jump from ~1600RPM to ~2200RPM. This brings the VRM temperature down to well within reasonable operating range. It's still warmer than some competition, but certainly not "overheating."

arestavo
 
 
 
That article? It is for the FTW model and it has a much larger power delivery system. You don't have a FTW model.

Exactly, the "standard" PCB design is even more prone to this issue as it has significant less VRMs to produce the power to the chip, and just an FYI, the power delivery system in the FTW model is nearly irrelevant has the chips are capped at specific power draws. All that the 10+2 phase circuity does is deliver slightly cleaner power to the chip. It is MUCH less of an issue on the FTW models as they have 10 VRMs producing power vs 4-5 on the standard models and as stated, the GPU on the FTW models does NOT pull more power as ALL chips are capped a specific power draws by Nvidia.

pawelblyskal

arestavo
 
 
 
That article? It is for the FTW model and it has a much larger power delivery system. You don't have a FTW model.

Exactly, the "standard" PCB design is even more prone to this issue as it has significant less VRMs to produce the power to the chip, and just an FYI, the power delivery system in the FTW model is nearly irrelevant has the chips are capped at specific power draws. All that the 10+2 phase circuity does is deliver slightly cleaner power to the chip.

As logic and facts fail to sway your personal opinion, may I suggest a cheap IR gun so you can see for yourself - https://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Lasergrip-1080-Non-contact-Thermometer/dp/B00DMI632G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478058244&sr=8-1&keywords=IR+gun 
 
When you are done you can use it as a cat laser toy and/or use it to find drafts around the house/apartment that can be fixed.