• EVGA GeForce 10 Series
  • Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate (p.97)
2016/11/05 02:47:40
Legeon
Silegg1911
Bios update on the 1080 classified. Didn't fix anything. Black screen and high rpm fans after 5 minutes on desktop and again 5 minutes into rainbow six siege. Restarted computer and the cars did the same while booting into Windows.. Awaiting thermal mod to be sent.. But current not very happy at all as support have been completely useless blaming it on a psu voltage issue. contacted overclockers UK for them to take back the card and replaces with a different manufacture. Which I don't want to do because I've always used EVGA



And that's why I hesitate to go ahead with the BIOS update.
2016/11/05 02:53:47
Silegg1911
Legeon
Silegg1911
Bios update on the 1080 classified. Didn't fix anything. Black screen and high rpm fans after 5 minutes on desktop and again 5 minutes into rainbow six siege. Restarted computer and the cars did the same while booting into Windows.. Awaiting thermal mod to be sent.. But current not very happy at all as support have been completely useless blaming it on a psu voltage issue. contacted overclockers UK for them to take back the card and replaces with a different manufacture. Which I don't want to do because I've always used EVGA



And that's why I hesitate to go ahead with the BIOS update.




Your damned if you do and damned if you dont :( . 
2016/11/05 03:03:03
RKarov
delicieuxz
I am also wondering about any specific information pertaining to potential performance degradation, or loss of GPU life, due to running a card for a few months without proper thermal protection.


Same here I never OCed or used benchmark tools and my case has pretty good cooling so I hope that my GTX 1080 FTW will not die soon after my 3 year warranty expires.  My reference GTX 680's are still working to this day.  I feel that although I did not have crashes or freezing that my cards lifespan is now shortened.
2016/11/05 03:23:37
delicieuxz
Xfade81
 
delicieuxz
BartyB
delicieuxz
BartyB
I updated the VBIOS but while playing BF1 my temps are still at 82c? Is that a normal temp?



Is that a FTW card, and are you running a custom fan curve? That seems high. My 1070 SC on the stock fan profile reached a maximum of 72C. But I'm running a custom fan profile so that the fan is at 50% at 60C, and that keeps my GPU temperature at a maximum of 60C.


Yes FTW edition. I use to have it on a custom curve. I just turned it to aggressive after writing that message and now running battlefield at 1440 and 130fps I am around 68~72c and idling around 30 as of now.


Then I would say it is almost guaranteed that the higher temperatures you are seeing when your GPU is under load are due the thermal pads on your FTW not touching the VRM modules.
 
http://forums.evga.com/gaps-between-vram-chips-and-the-stock-thermal-pads-on-the-midplate-m2570619.aspx
 
My card is a 1070 SC, and so it shouldn't be affected by this particular issue. And I would guess that's why my stock fan-profile SC 1070 reached a max temperature of 72C, while your FTW reached 82C.




No. The GPU has the sensor, not the chips afaik.

 
Yes, however, all the extra heat being produced by the VRAM, and not transferred away from the PCB, is going to cause the entire PCB to be a hotter environment.
2016/11/05 03:28:42
Vlada011
I have confidence in EVGA with graphic cards.
Only on me is to careful read before purchase and to choose model I like.
After GTX980Ti Hybrid is launched and posts of people who bought that model I concluded that EVGA custom PCB with AIO Liquid cooler is best option after Hydro Copper model. Only better option is Classified + waterblock. 5-6 years, from GTX580 Classified Hydro Copper that's best option on market.
But because I don't have custom loop I need to choose FTW Hybrid. With custom loop off course Classified with waterblock.
 

 
Some people immediately replace paste and thermal pads on their new graphic cards.
There is something interesting in that, even if improvements is 1-2C enthusiasts like to put own paste, some best from market and own thermal pads... :). 
But Looks like this is real difference in temperature if people install thermal pads on 1070/1080 ACX.
 
 
2016/11/05 03:34:20
Dicehunter
Silegg1911
Bios update on the 1080 classified. Didn't fix anything. Black screen and high rpm fans after 5 minutes on desktop and again 5 minutes into rainbow six siege. Restarted computer and the cars did the same while booting into Windows.. Awaiting thermal mod to be sent.. But current not very happy at all as support have been completely useless blaming it on a psu voltage issue. contacted overclockers UK for them to take back the card and replaces with a different manufacture. Which I don't want to do because I've always used EVGA



Just stick it out, It's a generally small problem, Not like you have to buy a whole new card or anything, Get a replacement 1080 Classified and if it is still faulty then repeat the replacement process, If it's not faulty then jobs'a'good'n.
2016/11/05 03:35:03
Xfade81
Gawg36
Quick question about thermal conductivity pads for FTW.
I have already got two brands of both 1mm and 2mm.
 
1mm = A. 5.0w/mk    B. 2.0W/m.k -  A. = Brand 1.   B. = Brand 2.
 
2mm = A. 5.0w/mk      B. 2.0W/mk.     Same as above.  A. is Brand 1.   B. is brand 2.
 
*snip*
 
So guys, Company 1 (5.0w/mk) seems the best to me. Is it? and are these numbers 5.0w/mk  and/or  2.0w/mk good enough. Thanks.




Just take the 5w/mk for both, as those are likely the ones you will be getting anyway. More w/mk is basicly better.
2016/11/05 03:42:12
seahawkgfx
EVGA_JacobF
clocked970
darkheran
clocked970
Xfade81
trevor42088
I've been through a good amount of pages and haven't seen it clearly answered.

Does the over heating issues effect a 1070 sc? I keep my fans around 80% and keep the card 60c or cooler, will this ever be a problem for me?

A good couple of pages. Except page 1 and the first post. Nice.
Keeping your fans that high does not look like a good solution. I suggest getting the new bios instead.


You do realize that the purpose of the new bios is to increase the native fan speed of the card at certain temperatures? So if he is keeping his fans at 80% with a program like Afterburner or PrecisionX, that is the exact same result as flashing the new bios. I am not worried about rushing to get the new bios because I always make my own fan curve to keep my card cool anyways.



This is not entirely true. First id wager constant 80% as needless excessive fan wear. The irony being that one does so out of fear of flashing the BIOS (while raising the potential of another entirely different problem)  Secondly, the max RPM's were changed. I.E. the percentages pertaining to previous BIOS' do not match those of the current. 


Nowhere is Evga's post about the bios change did it say that they increased the max rpm's of the fans. The only thing I have been able to find on the subject is that the stock fan curve has been made more aggressive. Please link the page if you can show where they said the max rpm's of the acx cooler's fans has been increased with the new bios.
Also, running your fans at 80% all the time (not something I do purely for sound level reasons), is what the cooler was made to do, actually 100%, if they die prematurely, that's what warranty is for.




Max RPM has not increased. Only the curve is slightly more aggressive at 70C+




Could you provide a bit more data, please?
2016/11/05 03:51:37
Silegg1911
Dicehunter
Silegg1911
Bios update on the 1080 classified. Didn't fix anything. Black screen and high rpm fans after 5 minutes on desktop and again 5 minutes into rainbow six siege. Restarted computer and the cars did the same while booting into Windows.. Awaiting thermal mod to be sent.. But current not very happy at all as support have been completely useless blaming it on a psu voltage issue. contacted overclockers UK for them to take back the card and replaces with a different manufacture. Which I don't want to do because I've always used EVGA



Just stick it out, It's a generally small problem, Not like you have to buy a whole new card or anything, Get a replacement 1080 Classified and if it is still faulty then repeat the replacement process, If it's not faulty then jobs'a'good'n.




Yeah but trying to get a Support to issue a RMA to at least get it sent back is proving a issue for this option .
 
2016/11/05 03:55:10
Gawg36
Xfade81
Gawg36
Quick question about thermal conductivity pads for FTW.
I have already got two brands of both 1mm and 2mm.
 
1mm = A. 5.0w/mk    B. 2.0W/m.k -  A. = Brand 1.   B. = Brand 2.
 
2mm = A. 5.0w/mk      B. 2.0W/mk.     Same as above.  A. is Brand 1.   B. is brand 2.
 
*snip*
 
So guys, Company 1 (5.0w/mk) seems the best to me. Is it? and are these numbers 5.0w/mk  and/or  2.0w/mk good enough. Thanks.




Just take the 5w/mk for both, as those are likely the ones you will be getting anyway. More w/mk is basicly better.




Yeah, that's what I'll do and was planning to do if no one answered. But thanks for confirming my thoughts, now I'll go ahead and just do it when I have the time. Thanks again.
I don't want to start a new discussion really, but I also think that applying the pads, exactly as said in instuctions, as opposed to poorly aligned etc. Is equally, perhaps more
important than the grade of pad. Within reason of course.

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