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trevor42088
I've been through a good amount of pages and haven't seen it clearly answered.

Does the over heating issues effect a 1070 sc? I keep my fans around 80% and keep the card 60c or cooler, will this ever be a problem for me?

A good couple of pages. Except page 1 and the first post. Nice.
Keeping your fans that high does not look like a good solution. I suggest getting the new bios instead.

You do realize that the purpose of the new bios is to increase the native fan speed of the card at certain temperatures? So if he is keeping his fans at 80% with a program like Afterburner or PrecisionX, that is the exact same result as flashing the new bios. I am not worried about rushing to get the new bios because I always make my own fan curve to keep my card cool anyways.

This is not entirely true. First id wager constant 80% as needless excessive fan wear. The irony being that one does so out of fear of flashing the BIOS (while raising the potential of another entirely different problem)  Secondly, the max RPM's were changed. I.E. the percentages pertaining to previous BIOS' do not match those of the current. 

Nowhere is Evga's post about the bios change did it say that they increased the max rpm's of the fans. The only thing I have been able to find on the subject is that the stock fan curve has been made more aggressive. Please link the page if you can show where they said the max rpm's of the acx cooler's fans has been increased with the new bios.
Also, running your fans at 80% all the time (not something I do purely for sound level reasons), is what the cooler was made to do, actually 100%, if they die prematurely, that's what warranty is for.

Max RPM has not increased. Only the curve is slightly more aggressive at 70C+

Then whats the max RPM? Im showing 3600 on MSI Afterburner?

Berated over the course of this thread? Too far don't you think? I've made like 6 or 7 posts in total. You are blurting out things you think are correct without reading the facts first hence wasting my and everyone else's time. I told you from the start there was only a more aggressive curve applied. Sorry about the name calling I truly am. Just been reading way too many posts from people that are misinformed because they are not reading what evga has actually posted on the subjects. 
I use Precision X currently and it was reading about 3026 max rpm, i fired up afterburner to see if it was different and it also read 3020 max rpm. So either you have a card that blows 600 rpm faster than mine from factory (unlikely), or something else is at work here.

Btw did you guys stress test the 1080 Classys. I might just do the bios update when my card arrives from the US. I had every classy cards since then except the 780's ones and I'm kinda feeling worried about the 1080 classy. Also the VRAM Chip being used on the 1080 classy is micron instead of a samsung chip. My current 980ti Classy has a samsung VRAM chip checked using GPU-Z

"You are blurting out things you think are correct without reading the facts first" I am blurting out my readings. Corrected that for you. Also im not the only one, thanks. Post #636 But thanks again for assuming I blurt out random statements without personal data just because mine doesn't correspond with yours. Professional.

What is the difference between the Primary BIOS (86.04.3b.00.84) and Secondary BIOS (86.04.3b.01.82)? I am confused as to which one I apply.

Troyhe98
What is the difference between the Primary BIOS (86.04.3b.00.84) and Secondary BIOS (86.04.3b.01.82)? I am confused as to which one I apply.

Your have 2 bios switches on the FTW cards. You load the primary to slot 1 (master) and the secondary to slot 2 (slave). You must power down, flip the switch and power up to make sure you are flashing the right one.

I thought that might be it, but wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying!

alk47
Minor emergency:

The BIOS updater is stalled and doing nothing.

I closed all other programs and ran it with admin privileges. It identified my video card, asked 'y' to confirm / 's' to skip / 'a' to abort. I pressed 'y'.

It has since been sitting doing nothing visible for 30 minutes. No messages, no change, no nothing. Pressing 'y'/'s'/'a' again does nothing. Enter does nothing. Esc does nothing.

I'm assuming it should have been completed within seconds. Am I safe to simply reboot? Should I exit the updater and relaunch it without rebooting?

Swift advice would be appreciated if anyone at EVGA is still monitoring the thread. I don't really want to bork my video card over choosing poorly how to proceed, nor do I want to leave the entire PC sitting running like this until I hear back.

 
Update to failed BIOS updater problem:
 
The BIOS updater stalled on my Win10 machine immediately after the "press 'y' to confirm" stage. This is after the updater has already switched the display resolution down to 640x480, or whatever horrible postage stamp size it uses as base.
 
Keypresses did nothing; the updater cannot be closed with the window's 'X' button. Force closed the update task with Task Manager > End Task.
 
Tried the updater again, same problem: it immediately stalled after pressing 'y' to confirm. It did, however, confirm that it still saw the old BIOS on the video card. i.e. The previous update attempt had failed utterly, beyond borking my display resolution. This left me with no choice but to reboot.
 
 
On reboot I still had video (thank god) but the installed nVidia drivers (or perhaps EVGA Precision in the background?) failed to recognize the hardware and complained muchly about it. Couldn't even open the nVidia control panel. And I was still stuck in postage stamp resolution.
 
Rebooted into safe mode (Win10) and was able to run the BIOS updater (seemingly) successfully. 
 
 
Tip to the updater programmers: some kind of "UPDATE SUCCESSFUL" feedback would be awesome, rather than a 2-second progress bar of dots followed by the updater window auto-closing itself without any user feedback whatsoever. Having a BIOS update window simply collapse without warning is NOT reassuring or useful. This concept is not rocket surgery.
 
 
Rebooted into regular Win10, was immediately greeted with the same "No supported hardware detected" on boot. Still stuck in 640x480, pain in my ass. nVidia Control Panel still inaccessible.
 
Removed all nVidia drivers and components one-by-one via CPL > Programs and Features. Rebooted.
 
Win10 automatically installed nVidia drivers that were able to recognize the card properly, allowing me to open nVidia cpl > System Information, which finally confirmed that the new BIOS was in place. Updated those drivers with the latest from nVidia and all seems (?) to be back to a working state. Hopefully that continues.
 
 
tl;dr: Not terribly impressed with the update process. I highly recommend anyone else running the BIOS updater do so in Windows safe mode from the get-go to avoid potential conflicts. "Quitting all programs" (including all non-resident nVidia/EVGA programs) clearly wasn't enough.
 
PS: Appreciate all the advice. Oh wait... no... you were all too busy squabbling and counter-trolling each other for the last 90 minutes instead, to the point that the mod deleted half your posts. gj.

alk47

alk47
Minor emergency:

The BIOS updater is stalled and doing nothing.

I closed all other programs and ran it with admin privileges. It identified my video card, asked 'y' to confirm / 's' to skip / 'a' to abort. I pressed 'y'.

It has since been sitting doing nothing visible for 30 minutes. No messages, no change, no nothing. Pressing 'y'/'s'/'a' again does nothing. Enter does nothing. Esc does nothing.

I'm assuming it should have been completed within seconds. Am I safe to simply reboot? Should I exit the updater and relaunch it without rebooting?

Swift advice would be appreciated if anyone at EVGA is still monitoring the thread. I don't really want to bork my video card over choosing poorly how to proceed, nor do I want to leave the entire PC sitting running like this until I hear back.

 
Update to failed BIOS updater problem:
 
The BIOS updater stalled on my Win10 machine immediately after the "press 'y' to confirm" stage. This is after the updater has already switched the display resolution down to 640x480, or whatever horrible postage stamp size it uses as base.
 
Keypresses did nothing; the updater cannot be closed with the window's 'X' button. Force closed the update task with Task Manager > End Task.
 
Tried the updater again, same problem: it immediately stalled after pressing 'y' to confirm. It did, however, confirm that it still saw the old BIOS on the video card. i.e. The previous update attempt had failed utterly, beyond borking my display resolution. This left me with no choice but to reboot.
 
 
On reboot I still had video (thank god) but the installed nVidia drivers (or perhaps EVGA Precision in the background?) failed to recognize the hardware and complained muchly about it. Couldn't even open the nVidia control panel. And I was still stuck in postage stamp resolution.
 
Rebooted into safe mode (Win10) and was able to run the BIOS updater (seemingly) successfully. 
 
 
Tip to the updater programmers: some kind of "UPDATE SUCCESSFUL" feedback would be awesome, rather than a 2-second progress bar of dots followed by the updater window auto-closing itself without any user feedback whatsoever. Having a BIOS update window simply collapse without warning is NOT reassuring or useful. This concept is not rocket surgery.
 
 
Rebooted into regular Win10, was immediately greeted with the same "No supported hardware detected" on boot. Still stuck in 640x480, pain in my ass. nVidia Control Panel still inaccessible.
 
Removed all nVidia drivers and components one-by-one via CPL > Programs and Features. Rebooted.
 
Win10 automatically installed nVidia drivers that were able to recognize the card properly, allowing me to open nVidia cpl > System Information, which finally confirmed that the new BIOS was in place. Updated those drivers with the latest from nVidia and all seems (?) to be back to a working state. Hopefully that continues.
 
 
tl;dr: Not terribly impressed with the update process. I highly recommend anyone else running the BIOS updater do so in Windows safe mode from the get-go to avoid potential conflicts. "Quitting all programs" (including all non-resident nVidia/EVGA programs) clearly wasn't enough.
 
PS: Appreciate all the advice. Oh wait... no... you were all too busy squabbling and counter-trolling each other for the last 90 minutes instead, to the point that the mod deleted half your posts. gj.

Ive seen your issue, did not know how to solve it. Sorry you are fustrated but don't take it out on everyone. Lastly there is an update successful message that displays for maybe half a second before the prompt closes. It just closes to fast. Would be nice to have a press enter to close prompt message or something.

Jeeze... who said I was afraid to flash a bios? I installed one when the micron memory bios came outo, and flashed this one as soon as it came out.

And when they boasted 400% increased lifespan on the fans, I figured I'd be able to run them for as long or as hard as I want until it's time to replace the card, warrantee exchange for a different issue, or even install a waterblock.

I guess what I was hoping for is an evga rep would have replied with "no, not effected because this..." but instead all I got was anger... good goin "community "

And thanks to those who actually tried to help.

trevor42088
Jeeze... who said I was afraid to flash a bios? I installed one when the micron memory bios came outo, and flashed this one as soon as it came out.

And when they boasted 400% increased lifespan on the fans, I figured I'd be able to run them for as long or as hard as I want until it's time to replace the card, warrantee exchange for a different issue, or even install a waterblock.

I guess what I was hoping for is an evga rep would have replied with "no, not effected because this..." but instead all I got was anger... good goin "community "

And thanks to those who actually tried to help.

The first page stated it effects your card. So that answered that before you even posted. And if you aren't worried about flashing the BIOS flash it and get the new curve fix. If you want to run your fans manual 80% instead run them 80% instead.  You are asking us to tell you if you should flash the VBIOS or use custom fan curve. Its up to you not us.