• EVGA GeForce 10 Series
  • Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate (p.87)
2016/11/04 15:46:12
NicolaiMoller
Core clock of GPU is 708 MHz and room temp is about 23-25C I would guess.... and the PC case is standing on the floor with side panel off. So it's open case right now, and no fans spinning other than that of the CPU, GPU and PSU. No case fans running.
2016/11/04 15:46:58
khos2325
I am doing the BIOS update, but I'm not gonna mess with the thermal pads. I'm just not going to tamper with a card that I've paid so much money for especially when it was Evga's job to do proper testing and install the pads in the first place. Plus Evga themselves are saying that the pads are not necessary, and the BIOS update will do the job. I'm not going to RMA the card either, because I don't want to get a refurbished card. I paid for a new card.
 
Maybe everything will be fine, and if that's the case then great. If the card dies, then I will RMA it. If the card dies and harms any other components of my PC, then I will file a lawsuit against Evga.
 
My only problem is the harm these issues are going to do to the resale values of these cards. I wish I could refund the card, but it is too late for me at this point. That I cannot help, but at least this experience is a good lesson.
 
This was my first Evga GPU, and I've been a MSI customer for a long time. I personally have never had any problems with MSI, and none of their cards ever overheated or died on me. I only went with Evga this time around, because their cards are smaller than the MSI cards and thus easier to fit in my Mini-ITX case. 
 
The valuable lesson for me at the end of all of this is to NEVER buy another Evga product again.
 
I should not have to physically tamper with a card that I've paid so much money for, and I don't think this is good customer service unlike a lot of people claim. I simply should not have to deal with a clear oversight and abysmal corner cutting in the first place, and frankly I want my money back. I should not have to RMA my new card for a refurbished card, and I shouldn't have to pay for shipping. I shouldn't have to be left without a card for days, because I use this card for my work as well. Good customer service at this point would be letting people refund their cards if they choose to do so, because I strongly believe all these shenanigans are going to hurt the resale value of these cards. And honestly It really surprises me that these issues exist in the first place. Not installing thermal pads and not properly testing you cards is really unforgivable. It is really a simple issue with a simple fix, and it isn't a complex issue that might have been hard to catch.
 
I have bought many cards from MSI and other brands for many years, and I have never had to deal with these kind of issues. Maybe it's just my personal experience, but that is what counts the most for me.
 
One thing that I can say is that the moderators on these forums are very helpful, and I thank them for that.  
 
 
2016/11/04 15:51:54
DeathAngel74
NicolaiMoller
Core clock of GPU is 708 MHz and room temp is about 23-25C I would guess.... and the PC case is standing on the floor with side panel off. So it's open case right now, and no fans spinning other than that of the CPU, GPU and PSU. No case fans running.


Thank you! I wanted to know for a comparison....ambient temp-22C, 1594-core clock, idle temp-33C. is good or no?
2016/11/04 15:51:58
Stan Wayne
I have a noobie question.
Should I turn the bios switch from 1 to 2 before flashing the bios 2? and vice versa?
2016/11/04 15:54:48
m0bbed
Campacci2k
Secundary BIOS never had 0 spin. ;)
 
I will update here. Any chances to this "overclock on fans" damage then?


Correct! On the classified the min rpm is 1000 rpm at the Moment. That is too much, therefore i hope this changes to 500 rpm
2016/11/04 15:55:37
darkheran
Stan Wayne
I have a noobie question.
Should I turn the bios switch from 1 to 2 before flashing the bios 2? and vice versa?



Yes. See this in main post:

(For Dual BIOS cards, card must be set to BIOS that is being flashed)




2016/11/04 15:56:21
DeathAngel74
default is position 1, master.
flash 1 first, reboot, shutdown, flip switch, reboot.
flash number 2, reboot.
left=master
right=slave(secondary)
2016/11/04 15:57:41
darkheran
DeathAngel74
default is position 1, master.
flash 1 first, reboot, shutdown, flip switch, reboot.
flash number 2, reboot.


This should be appended to the directions of the original post for dual bios users to be honest if not rebooting prior to the second flash would cause an issue.
2016/11/04 15:57:42
AzN-SoLjA
Stan Wayne
I have a noobie question.
Should I turn the bios switch from 1 to 2 before flashing the bios 2? and vice versa?

Yes, flash 1st update on 1st bios and flash the 2nd update on the 2nd bios switch.
 
2016/11/04 16:04:28
GFAFS
darkheran

Exactly. The difference however is that I didn't go about making absurd accusations that anybody and everybody that disagreed with me was a representative out to silence me. You asked what exactly you wanted to ask. The community (and the company preemptively) answered. You've also stated on multiple occasions what you wanted to state (i.e. that you don't want the solutions provided and that you consider them to be fairy dust for all you care). You don't seem to often clarify what it is you want instead however other than to attempt to make others share your opinion every time someone new comes along. I.E. the defintion of fearmongering: [the action of deliberately arousing public fear or alarm about a particular issue.]. You just continue to point out that you don't feel like you should have to do the work and that it should have been done from the beginning. EVGA has admitted they made a mistake (so they have agreed with you on that). They are one step ahead of you given the fact that they've already said you don't have to do the work either. For one its optional, two if you feel like its not they happily offer you to send it in (they said they'd do it for you) and three you made your big fuss about how you're threatening to return it if you don't get what you want. We agreed you should, since you won't be happy with the outcomes provided as you stated. In the end, your case or whatnot is solved. There is nothing more for you to do then wait for a response or choose to make a return. So you should be good. You can move along without proving to be a detriment to others now. Or you can continue to stay here and flail about at  absolutely no benefit to the company, community, or yourself. But have at it. And I seriously do hope you get your fixes and your card lives a long and healthy life without a doubt.


 
I did clarified what i wanted multiple times in the thread and in my ticket, never got an answer by an EVGA Official in the Thread nor in PM's (or i missed it somehow,so be kind to show it to me), in the ticket i got an Bot answer - Giving me the howto RMA... i know where the FAQs are, or was it a woman?! of course nothing on the points i insisted on, to which i replied, insisting again on my basics demands, till today nothing (4 days).
Now that was the first part.
 
For the fear-mongering part, to which i answered already, i'm sharing facts, it's a forum after all.
 
You said, EVGA have admitted their mistakes?, no they did not and will not. I also stated this in one of my post.
Again about the "optional" as i said in one of my post (again), if it really is, one is entitled to not make any of it (Which is my position right now) - and the card will surely die prematurely. (back to the part where EVGA did not admitted the mandatory situation).
 
Next we have the RMA part, which is pretty much summed up in the first part. Also my big fuss as you said, is not a threat, just a another fact, i'll ask a refund, depending on the way the ticket is handled.
 
If it has to come to the refund, of course, THEN, i'll have nothing to do here anymore and move along. Until then i should add that if you can't coop with my positions, you still have the option to close your eyes on them, as you gracefully do on EVGA mistakes.
 
Yes, i wish the same thing, a real solution and quick.

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