flaviossa
So, after all this findings is it good or not to apply the thermal pads afteer the bios update? This lot of information from different sources starts to confuse the normal customer.

you can simply set your own fan profile on evga px.
the new bios has preset new fan profile with higher rpm so you dont need to tweak the fan profile. but i have been seeing many ppl failed to flash the new bios so i dont think flashing bios is easier. actually if you dont care about derating of mosfets, you can do nothing like what evga has been saying: it is optional.

WhatGravitas

acxcoolerssuck
 
there are four little strip stock pads surrounding the gpu socket at the back. maybe the heats from vrm and chokes and caps transfer to gpu socket by that four litter gpu pads.

Yes, the article says as much:

tomshardware.de
Wir können auch feststellen, dass die Temperatur des GPU-Sockels (nicht der GPU) gestiegen ist. Die Ursache ist die deutlich wärmere Backplate. Nun wissen wir auch, warum die Temperaturen der GPU-Diode mit dem Pad ein klein wenig höher ausfielen als beim Original.

Rough translation:
"We also found that the temperature of the GPU-socket (not the GPU) increased. The cause is the clearly warmer backplate. Now we also know, why the temperature of the GPU-diode with the pad ended up a little bit higher than in the original."
 
It's probably less that the GPU gets hotter but rather that the socket itself cannot dump as much heat into the backplate any longer, since it's already a fairly warm backplate. Note that they distinguish between the GPU and the GPU socket, though, the GPU itself (see the graph for the GPU diode temperature) has only shown an increase by 1-2 degrees (with the original BIOS, the updated BIOS completely slays temperatures at the cost of noise).
 
Hence, their ultimate recommendation of running the fan only 100 rpm faster with the full mod instead of what has been implemented (as it needs to deal with unmodded cards).

you are right, i overlooked the differences of gpu temps, thanks.

PixieStix88
I have the 1070 FTW (08G-P4-6276-KR) do i install the Primary and then the secondary? Whats the difference?  My temps seem to be running fine but i rather be safe then sorry. Been using the temperature monitor program via steam that came with the card and i dont see it go over 60C when playing games. 
 
Upon further reading i have gathered there is some switch for the secondary bios. I dont think ive ever touched it, no gonna lie this is my first powerful card so im a newb. I basically plugged the guy in day one updated the drivers and went on my way.
 
So i believe i only need the primary bios update correct?

I have the same card and updated only Primary. Still have the 0rpm up to 55 degrees so still very quiet.

acxcoolerssuck

flaviossa
So, after all this findings is it good or not to apply the thermal pads afteer the bios update? This lot of information from different sources starts to confuse the normal customer.

you can simply set your own fan profile on evga px.
the new bios has preset new fan profile with higher rpm so you dont need to tweak the fan profile. but i have been seeing many ppl failed to flash the new bios so i dont think flashing bios is easier. actually if you dont care about derating of mosfets, you can do nothing like what evga has been saying: it is optional.

 
Please post where you have seen many ppl failed to flash the new bios. There isn't really anything to do wrong. You look for your part number in the list. Download the Bios. Extract the file and run update.exe. Say Yes twice and reboot. Done!. I mean, it isn't rocket science. A 5 year old child could easily update the bios without any issues. So I would like to know where all these ppl are with failed update.

flaviossa
So, after all this findings is it good or not to apply the thermal pads afteer the bios update? This lot of information from different sources starts to confuse the normal customer.

Please read what EVGA recommends and forget what ppl post. It is OPTIONAL to do the thermal mod. If you update your Bios, you should be fine. No heat issues. Don't believe me?
Here you go:
"To resolve this, EVGA will be offering a VBIOS update, which adjusts the fan-speed curve to ensure sufficient cooling of all components across all operating temperatures.  This VBIOS will be released in the next few days and users can download it and update their cards directly.   This update resolves the potential thermal issues that have been reported, and ensures the card maintains safe operating temperatures.
 
For those users who want additional cooling beyond the VBIOS update, EVGA has optional thermal pads available.  This update is not required, however; EVGA will make it available free of charge to any customer who is interested. To request the thermal pad kit, please visit www.evga.com/thermalmod." 

acxcoolerssuck

emsir

acxcoolerssuck
why adding theraml pads do increase the gpu temp for ~5c??
 
i have never thought adding thermal pad on the midplate has such improvement for the temps of vram and vrm, very nice. however it is useless for those who are using hybrid ftw and custom aio cooling.
 
 
 
this pic shows clearly that the midplate thermal pad mod should have covered the chokes/inductors only. blocking the airflow to the surface of the midplate above the vrm may have worse influences.

How do you know the themal mod is useless for hybrid ftw and custom aio cooling? As far as I know hybrid ftw is not on the list recommending the thermal mod. 
Read this:
"Q. Which cards are supported by these updates?
A. EVGA ACX 3.0 GeForce GTX 1080, 1070 or 1060 cards with the following part numbers:


*Founders Edition, Blower type, HYBRID, and HYDRO COPPER cards do not need these updates.
 
 

how to apply thermal pad on top of the chokes on hybrid cards.........

Doesn't really matter as long as the Hybrid card isn't on the list. It's rubbish.

carb1de

iambert
 My only question is, is the return shipping supposed to be included or are we paying that out of pocket?

waiting on an RMA here too, would like to know this...

Please take some time and read the info on EVGA...You are asking so many questions. Here you go:
http://www.evga.com/howtorma/

emsir

acxcoolerssuck

emsir

acxcoolerssuck
why adding theraml pads do increase the gpu temp for ~5c??
 
i have never thought adding thermal pad on the midplate has such improvement for the temps of vram and vrm, very nice. however it is useless for those who are using hybrid ftw and custom aio cooling.
 
 
 
this pic shows clearly that the midplate thermal pad mod should have covered the chokes/inductors only. blocking the airflow to the surface of the midplate above the vrm may have worse influences.

How do you know the themal mod is useless for hybrid ftw and custom aio cooling? As far as I know hybrid ftw is not on the list recommending the thermal mod. 
Read this:
"Q. Which cards are supported by these updates?
A. EVGA ACX 3.0 GeForce GTX 1080, 1070 or 1060 cards with the following part numbers:


*Founders Edition, Blower type, HYBRID, and HYDRO COPPER cards do not need these updates.
 
 

how to apply thermal pad on top of the chokes on hybrid cards.........

Doesn't really matter as long as the Hybrid card isn't on the list. It's rubbish.

it does matter, according to the new tomshardware review.
 

GFAFS

emsir
 
 
You got nothing to show. It's no way relevant to this issue what you are posting. If you don't have anything specific to EVGA cards  ( GTX 10 series), your argument is rubbish.  And you are completely wrong. EVGA is responsible for their products, NOT any average environment. EVGA has no influence where you install the card.  I don't see any threads with specific VRM issues and proof that VRM is overheated. If you took the time and read what EVGA post about this issue, you would know this:
 
"To resolve this, EVGA will be offering a VBIOS update, which adjusts the fan-speed curve to ensure sufficient cooling of all components across all operating temperatures.  This VBIOS will be released in the next few days and users can download it and update their cards directly.   This update resolves the potential thermal issues that have been reported, and ensures the card maintains safe operating temperatures.

For those users who want additional cooling beyond the VBIOS update, EVGA has optional thermal pads available.  This update is not required, however; EVGA will make it available free of charge to any customer who is interested. To request the thermal pad kit, please visit www.evga.com/thermalmod.
 
There is NO way EVGA says anything about overheated VRM. It' something some "experts" have posted and claimed. There is NO evidence to back this. That's why I want you to post these links that shows VRM is overheated. But you got nothing. 
 

I have everything i need for my case, with my personal datas and evidences, in case i had to push the court button, fortunately my full refund is on the way (not received yet though) that's why i still can post here as an actual customer and share some "truth & facts" about the whole situation. You calling it "rubbish" doesn't matter at all.

Removed If you had anything. you would post it. You are hillarious. Why on earth would you think you could take this issue to court?  You got nothing.... "truth and facts".... you haven't posted any of it. Just told me to look certain words up in google. You are the most hillarious person I've ever met. You think you know something and when it comes to put facts on the table.....you got NOTHING!

emsir

acxcoolerssuck

flaviossa
So, after all this findings is it good or not to apply the thermal pads afteer the bios update? This lot of information from different sources starts to confuse the normal customer.

you can simply set your own fan profile on evga px.
the new bios has preset new fan profile with higher rpm so you dont need to tweak the fan profile. but i have been seeing many ppl failed to flash the new bios so i dont think flashing bios is easier. actually if you dont care about derating of mosfets, you can do nothing like what evga has been saying: it is optional.

 
Please post where you have seen many ppl failed to flash the new bios. There isn't really anything to do wrong. You look for your part number in the list. Download the Bios. Extract the file and run update.exe. Say Yes twice and reboot. Done!. I mean, it isn't rocket science. A 5 year old child could easily update the bios without any issues. So I would like to know where all these ppl are with failed update.

at this forum, sorry i dont have time to find out all these for you. flashing bios in my opinion is very simple, even flashing most of the other aib's bios are fine and safe, with the bypassed nvflash.