why adding theraml pads do increase the gpu temp for ~5c??
 
i have never thought adding thermal pad on the midplate has such improvement for the temps of vram and vrm, very nice. however it is useless for those who are using hybrid ftw and custom aio cooling.
 
 
 
this pic shows clearly that the midplate thermal pad mod should have covered the chokes/inductors only. blocking the airflow to the surface of the midplate above the vrm may have worse influences.

acxcoolerssuck
why adding theraml pads do increase the gpu temp for ~5c??
 .....

Now you said, I didn't notice and compare that the temps increase on gpu a)with pad installed on backplate and b)at backplate and baseplate.
I compare picture with stock, pads at backplate+baseplate and full pad mod with bios, and I guessed it's increased because the pad at baseplate
block the air.
Now I found weird the increase of gpu only by the pad of backplate (75.8 to 80.9).
Below they wrote** the temps it's not on gpu  but at gpu socket. 
How the warmer backplate at that place affects the gpu socket, the contact of pad is at vrm' area and packplate works as passive cool?
 
They wrote**
We can also see that the temperature of the GPU socket (not the GPU) has risen. The cause is the much warmer backplate. Now we know why the temperatures of the GPU diode with the pad a little higher than the original.

etienne0601
After updating the BIOS from the default my card shipped with, to the latest version, my idle temps have jumped by about 5 degrees.
I have a 1070 FWT DT.
Unfortunately I did not backup the previous version.
My idle temps went up from 47 to 52 degrees.
 
Anyone else notice something similar ?

You have a cooling problem.....I have a FTW 1070 with updated primary Bios. My idle temp is 35-38 (after upate). Be sure to have good cooling and airflow in your case. 

acxcoolerssuck
why adding theraml pads do increase the gpu temp for ~5c??
 
i have never thought adding thermal pad on the midplate has such improvement for the temps of vram and vrm, very nice. however it is useless for those who are using hybrid ftw and custom aio cooling.
 
 
 
this pic shows clearly that the midplate thermal pad mod should have covered the chokes/inductors only. blocking the airflow to the surface of the midplate above the vrm may have worse influences.

How do you know the themal mod is useless for hybrid ftw and custom aio cooling? As far as I know hybrid ftw is not on the list recommending the thermal mod. 
Read this:
"Q. Which cards are supported by these updates?
A. EVGA ACX 3.0 GeForce GTX 1080, 1070 or 1060 cards with the following part numbers:

 
*Founders Edition, Blower type, HYBRID, and HYDRO COPPER cards do not need these updates.
 
 

panaikas

acxcoolerssuck
why adding theraml pads do increase the gpu temp for ~5c??
 .....

Now you said, I didn't notice and compare that the temps increase on gpu a)with pad installed on backplate and b)at backplate and baseplate.
I compare picture with stock, pads at backplate+baseplate and full pad mod with bios, and I guessed it's increased because the pad at baseplate
block the air.
Now I found weird the increase of gpu only by the pad of backplate (75.8 to 80.9).
Below they wrote** the temps it's not on gpu  but at gpu socket. 
How the warmer backplate at that place affects the gpu socket, the contact of pad is at vrm' area and packplate works as passive cool?
 
They wrote**
We can also see that the temperature of the GPU socket (not the GPU) has risen. The cause is the much warmer backplate. Now we know why the temperatures of the GPU diode with the pad a little higher than the original.

there are four little strip stock pads surrounding the gpu socket at the back. maybe the heats from vrm and chokes and caps transfer to gpu socket by that four litter gpu pads.

emsir

acxcoolerssuck
why adding theraml pads do increase the gpu temp for ~5c??
 
i have never thought adding thermal pad on the midplate has such improvement for the temps of vram and vrm, very nice. however it is useless for those who are using hybrid ftw and custom aio cooling.
 
 
 
this pic shows clearly that the midplate thermal pad mod should have covered the chokes/inductors only. blocking the airflow to the surface of the midplate above the vrm may have worse influences.

How do you know the themal mod is useless for hybrid ftw and custom aio cooling? As far as I know hybrid ftw is not on the list recommending the thermal mod. 
Read this:
"Q. Which cards are supported by these updates?
A. EVGA ACX 3.0 GeForce GTX 1080, 1070 or 1060 cards with the following part numbers:


*Founders Edition, Blower type, HYBRID, and HYDRO COPPER cards do not need these updates.
 
 

how to apply thermal pad on top of the chokes on hybrid cards.........

acxcoolerssuck

panaikas

acxcoolerssuck
why adding theraml pads do increase the gpu temp for ~5c??
 .....
 

Now you said, I didn't notice and compare that the temps increase on gpu a)with pad installed on backplate and b)at backplate and baseplate.
I compare picture with stock, pads at backplate+baseplate and full pad mod with bios, and I guessed it's increased because the pad at baseplate
block the air.
Now I found weird the increase of gpu only by the pad of backplate (75.8 to 80.9).
Below they wrote** the temps it's not on gpu  but at gpu socket. 
How the warmer backplate at that place affects the gpu socket, the contact of pad is at vrm' area and packplate works as passive cool?
 
They wrote**
We can also see that the temperature of the GPU socket (not the GPU) has risen. The cause is the much warmer backplate. Now we know why the temperatures of the GPU diode with the pad a little higher than the original.

there are four little strip pads surrounding the gpu socket at the back. maybe the heats from vrm and chokes and caps transfer to gpu socket by that four litter gpu pads.

Oops, thanks I froget these four pads, it's the only contact at that place with backplate, it's possible you are right

panaikas

acxcoolerssuck

panaikas

acxcoolerssuck
why adding theraml pads do increase the gpu temp for ~5c??
 .....
 

Now you said, I didn't notice and compare that the temps increase on gpu a)with pad installed on backplate and b)at backplate and baseplate.
I compare picture with stock, pads at backplate+baseplate and full pad mod with bios, and I guessed it's increased because the pad at baseplate
block the air.
Now I found weird the increase of gpu only by the pad of backplate (75.8 to 80.9).
Below they wrote** the temps it's not on gpu  but at gpu socket. 
How the warmer backplate at that place affects the gpu socket, the contact of pad is at vrm' area and packplate works as passive cool?
 
They wrote**
We can also see that the temperature of the GPU socket (not the GPU) has risen. The cause is the much warmer backplate. Now we know why the temperatures of the GPU diode with the pad a little higher than the original.

there are four little strip pads surrounding the gpu socket at the back. maybe the heats from vrm and chokes and caps transfer to gpu socket by that four litter gpu pads.

Oops, thanks I froget these four pads, it's the only contact at that place with backplate, it's possible you are right

maybe you can do a comparison about this. ~5c is quiet significant in my opinion. it maybe be reason why evga raises the fan speed to that high level on the new thermal bios.   
 
edited: not 5c, i overlooked two gpu temps. sorry for misleading.

acxcoolerssuck
 
there are four little strip stock pads surrounding the gpu socket at the back. maybe the heats from vrm and chokes and caps transfer to gpu socket by that four litter gpu pads.

Yes, the article says as much:

tomshardware.de
Wir können auch feststellen, dass die Temperatur des GPU-Sockels (nicht der GPU) gestiegen ist. Die Ursache ist die deutlich wärmere Backplate. Nun wissen wir auch, warum die Temperaturen der GPU-Diode mit dem Pad ein klein wenig höher ausfielen als beim Original.

Rough translation:
"We also found that the temperature of the GPU-socket (not the GPU) increased. The cause is the clearly warmer backplate. Now we also know, why the temperature of the GPU-diode with the pad ended up a little bit higher than in the original."
 
It's probably less that the GPU gets hotter but rather that the socket itself cannot dump as much heat into the backplate any longer, since it's already a fairly warm backplate. Note that they distinguish between the GPU and the GPU socket, though, the GPU itself (see the graph for the GPU diode temperature) has only shown an increase by 1-2 degrees (with the original BIOS, the updated BIOS completely slays temperatures at the cost of noise).
 
Hence, their ultimate recommendation of running the fan only 100 rpm faster with the full mod instead of what has been implemented (as it needs to deal with unmodded cards).

So, after all this findings is it good or not to apply the thermal pads afteer the bios update? This lot of information from different sources starts to confuse the normal customer.