• EVGA GeForce 10 Series
  • Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate (p.162)
2016/11/13 20:35:16
hgvm3d
I am confused.
The are 3 steps in the thermal pad mod. ()
I. VRAM Thermal Pad Mod Steps: 1-9, 11* , 15
II. Baseplate Thermal Pad Mod Steps: 1-4, 10, 11* , 15
III. Backplate Thermal Pad Mod Steps: 1, 13-15
In the youtube tutorial from Gamer Nexus he dosn't do the first step(VRAM Thermal Pad Mod), only steps 2 and 3.
In my case I have the Gtx 1070 SC Black Edition that comes without a back plate, so should I do only step 2(Baseplate Thermal Pad Mod) or also step 1(VRAM Thermal Pad Mod), it is really not clear.
 
2016/11/13 21:00:32
Luta Wicasa
The Gamers Nexus vid was made before the addition of the VRAM pads to the kit. So, you should do the baseplate and Vram parts of the instructions.
2016/11/13 21:04:00
hgvm3d
Thank you very much for your answer. 
Men should I know this I would have gone with Msi!
2016/11/13 23:51:32
panaikas
http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2568431
Scarlet-Tech
The issue is a new issue, as the VRM, The heatplate, and the cooler itself is nearly identical to all previous ACX coolers.. If it was never an issue before, then there was no reason to suspect it would be now. Since the issue was discovered, EVGA immediately started working toward a fix, which is far beyond what most other companies would do.
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Scarlet-Tech
post#1591 ....
Every single card is going to perform different. Other companies could very well have this issue on some cards, and know it, but wouldn't say a word. EVGA doesnt cherry pick their sample cards, as was originally thought to be happening with other companies (supposedly it was a software boost, not a cherry picked card).
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Just for reference, none of these are EVGA cards:
pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4



Scarlet-Tech
post#1601 .... 
NEGATIVE. I am a forum moderator. I edit curse word's qhen they get posted here. I pay for my cards out of pocket. I am a consumer just like you.
If you cant accept that these twmperatures have been seen over the years, then dont. I dont care. There are plenty of 980's and such that can be found with this exact same scenario that everyone ignored in the past.
The only thing I am providing is the fact that it shows historically that temperatures like this have occured in the past and people can be more vigilant in the future.
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My friend I don't attacked to you with the following.
Τhe customer doesn't care what's going at the past or future, it's care him the Now, you approached the things in wrong way if it was your personal opinions.
 
At first, you said because the problem it doesn't appear to previous acx cooler why EVGA suspect there is with the new and I answer you below
http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2569049 
A serious company doesn't think like this but make tests and try to be better, not make assumptions.
 
2nd you make comparison with other cards (from the pictures I recognized titan x and asus rog), titanX is reference card with bigger power draw 101C, with better componets (Isupposed) is Nvidia matter. Also Asus is about 90C (19C temps down from evga) in vrm's out of the box, customer not need put hand at the card. For these cards I (pesonally and maybe others) don't care.
I (now) paid (585€) for EVGA card and I care this card, wich the control and design (of baseplate don't help) of cooler (109C at vrm's) is rough
for the price range I paid.
If I want a card with an awful and "loud"(after bios) cooler I go for the Palit Dual 1070 that is cheaper and has better cooler at the vrm's and save 100€
 
EVGA and every X company must try to be better from previous year and not make assumptions. Also don't cut corners to save money* because in the 
future would have negative effects.
*if they want to save money, I would prefer a better cooler than the leds.
2016/11/14 00:47:36
seahawkgfx
Test of the Termalmod is done at the site who found the problem:
 
http://www.tomshardware.de/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ftw-thermal-mod-bios-infrarot-messung,testberichte-242265-2.html
 
Seems like the Thermalmod works perfectly fine and they do not recommend using the new BIOS when you have the Thermalmod installed, as they think it is too loud and the temperature of the card is already fine with the mod and the old BIOS.
 
The suggest that EVGA might come up with a BIOS that is a bit less aggressive and just adds 100-200rpm compared to the original.
2016/11/14 02:20:55
CoriolisAffectment
seahawkgfx
Test of the Termalmod is done at the site who found the problem:
 
http://www.tomshardware.de/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ftw-thermal-mod-bios-infrarot-messung,testberichte-242265-2.html
 
Seems like the Thermalmod works perfectly fine and they do not recommend using the new BIOS when you have the Thermalmod installed, as they think it is too loud and the temperature of the card is already fine with the mod and the old BIOS.
 
The suggest that EVGA might come up with a BIOS that is a bit less aggressive and just adds 100-200rpm compared to the original.


Thanks.  I've pulled a couple of translated quotes from the conclusions (A good google mangle is always amusing ):
 
"We see the current fan curve of the new BIOS version a bit too aggressive and believe that half the increase would certainly have been enough."
"A slightly more moderate curve would have positioned the map at 37 to 38 dB (A), which would still be absolutely sufficient. No one seldom sits in an unclamped room in Dubai at noon and plays like a possessed Furmark. Thus the BIOS-Mod deserves at least a small question mark."
 
I believe EVGA should revisit the bios revision and edge the curve downwards, perhaps splitting the difference of the suggestion to only increase by 150rpm to the original.
2016/11/14 02:24:44
Bar81
The new BIOS is obviously not needed if you apply the thermal mods.

I can understand the new BIOS being the way it is since EVGA doesn't know if an end user has the mods, but strange that they would use it for new shipping cards since it's not needed and makes the cards significantly louder.
2016/11/14 02:53:53
panaikas
Bar81
The new BIOS is obviously not needed if you apply the thermal mods.

I can understand the new BIOS being the way it is since EVGA doesn't know if an end user has the mods, but strange that they would use it for new shipping cards since it's not needed and makes the cards significantly louder.

+1
I agree with you and if someone can create a custom curve but
If they want to cover all scenarios rather they might increase ~100-150 rpm from the original bios as mentioned to article for less aggressive fans.
 
From the first article of GamerNexus (109C to 85 → 24C) and the new of Tom's (107 to 91C → 16C) we have a difference 8C
from their results about the installation thermal pads only. 
Let's wait and see the new results that will come from GN at the end of the week to have more infos.
 
2016/11/14 03:21:23
WhatGravitas
seahawkgfx
Test of the Termalmod is done at the site who found the problem:
 

 
Seems like the Thermalmod works perfectly fine and they do not recommend using the new BIOS when you have the Thermalmod installed, as they think it is too loud and the temperature of the card is already fine with the mod and the old BIOS.
 
The suggest that EVGA might come up with a BIOS that is a bit less aggressive and just adds 100-200rpm compared to the original.


Thanks for linking the article, it's a really good read and I like how they actually drilled a hole through the backplate and thermal pad to get accurate readings underneath the pad - that was one worry I had with people pointing a FLIR at it before - that' you're just measuring the pad temperature.
 
The result is actually quite impressive, without BIOS mod, it's in line with most other cards while keeping the quietness of the ACX 3.0 and with mod the temperatures go down to ~80ºC-ish on the hottest point. I really hope EVGA provides a "mod bios" for us to take into account the thermal mod (and on future cards they sell, of course).
 
Given that Tom's Hardware established the problem in the first place and their praise for the result (though they rightfully critique that it took EVGA quite a bit to react to them, requiring the public to actually notice), I'm actually quite happy with how it all played out, once my thermal mod actually arrives.
2016/11/14 03:31:47
MarcoSil
What make me worried is: why does in the EVGA site have not any GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 card in stock? About 3 months passed without a single card appeared in stock, IN USA and in EU site too. I requested  a step-up from gtx 1070 to 1080,  but  after 50 days I cancelled  it because I haven't any answer  from EVGA. They do not want to earn money? A masochistic behavior? 
Very strange, Are they reengineering a now version of the GTX 1000? No other brands have so few cards in the market.

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