• EVGA GeForce 10 Series
  • Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate (p.155)
2016/11/12 02:03:24
MarcoSil
DeathAngel74
Some would say that 75C is fine...Try to change your fan curve if you can tolerate the added noise. Aim to stay between 60-65C


Evil_Betox
MarcoSil
Which is s maximum safe temperature during daily gaming with a GTX 1070 sc? 75° C is High for every game?




Most reviewers hit that temps using the default fan curve, i say it's completely fine but it doesn't hurt to run it a little cooler. Personally i prefer lower temps instead of lower noises since my case fan is already loud and i use headphones but that's up to you. You could run Precision X e test the aggressive fan curve to see if the noise bothers you or not, changing from default to aggressive profile usually drops up to 10c in my experience.


Ok thanks!!


2016/11/12 02:10:48
emsir
Anarion
emsir
delicieuxz
emsir
Anarion
clone
I must be one of the lucky ones as my 1070FTW runs very cool but ive still asked for the thermal pads.

GPU might run very cool but the VRM are could be well past the boiling point.

This is rubbish, you have no documentation to prove your statement. Don't post something you don't have a clue about.



What do you find to be inaccurate about their statement? The temperature sensor on graphics cards is for the GPU chip, and not the VRM or VRAM. Whatever temperature is read from the GPU chip does not reflect the thermal conditions of the VRAM and VRM.
 
I hope that a cool GPU means also cool VRM and VRAM, but without thermal pads to transfer the heat from them, there seems to be significant risk to those components.


I've had my GTX 1070 FTW since September and played a lot of demanding games. No issues at all. So significant risk to components are not true. There haven't been 1 card with damaged VRM or VRAM. Nothing! And I think a lot of people with EVGA 10 series card are using agressive fan curve in Presicion X, and by that the card has no heat issue at all.  


LOL. That doesn't mean your VRM are wouldn't be running at >100c. When VRM fails, it usually fails without any warnings. Massive majority just installs the card and doesn't install Presicion X let alone use custom fan curve. I don't use Presicion X, I use Afterburner and it doesn't have any preset fancurves. Besides, the aggressive one in Presicion X is loud as hell judging by screenshots that people post.
 
The worse the case cooling, the bigger the problem. Especially if you do not do anything to the card. If everything was completely fine EVGA wouldn't kindly ship those thermal pads and update BIOSes.


If the VRM runs at 100 degrees  it will for sure have an effect on the GPU temps. If something gets really hot it will affect the surrounding areas = GPU!  About your argument about if VRM fails due to overheat. No (EVGA) card have failed due to overheated VRM. If you have some info about cards bricked, please post it. 
2016/11/12 02:42:11
acxcoolerssuck
emsir
Anarion
emsir
delicieuxz
emsir
Anarion
clone
I must be one of the lucky ones as my 1070FTW runs very cool but ive still asked for the thermal pads.

GPU might run very cool but the VRM are could be well past the boiling point.

This is rubbish, you have no documentation to prove your statement. Don't post something you don't have a clue about.



What do you find to be inaccurate about their statement? The temperature sensor on graphics cards is for the GPU chip, and not the VRM or VRAM. Whatever temperature is read from the GPU chip does not reflect the thermal conditions of the VRAM and VRM.
 
I hope that a cool GPU means also cool VRM and VRAM, but without thermal pads to transfer the heat from them, there seems to be significant risk to those components.


I've had my GTX 1070 FTW since September and played a lot of demanding games. No issues at all. So significant risk to components are not true. There haven't been 1 card with damaged VRM or VRAM. Nothing! And I think a lot of people with EVGA 10 series card are using agressive fan curve in Presicion X, and by that the card has no heat issue at all.  


LOL. That doesn't mean your VRM are wouldn't be running at >100c. When VRM fails, it usually fails without any warnings. Massive majority just installs the card and doesn't install Presicion X let alone use custom fan curve. I don't use Presicion X, I use Afterburner and it doesn't have any preset fancurves. Besides, the aggressive one in Presicion X is loud as hell judging by screenshots that people post.
 
The worse the case cooling, the bigger the problem. Especially if you do not do anything to the card. If everything was completely fine EVGA wouldn't kindly ship those thermal pads and update BIOSes.


If the VRM runs at 100 degrees  it will for sure have an effect on the GPU temps. If something gets really hot it will affect the surrounding areas = GPU!  About your argument about if VRM fails due to overheat. No (EVGA) card have failed due to overheated VRM. If you have some info about cards bricked, please post it. 


but higher than 100c the ftw's vrm will start derating. imagining some phases are being "disabled". 
2016/11/12 03:20:19
Anarion
emsir
Anarion
emsir
delicieuxz
emsir
Anarion
clone
I must be one of the lucky ones as my 1070FTW runs very cool but ive still asked for the thermal pads.

GPU might run very cool but the VRM are could be well past the boiling point.

This is rubbish, you have no documentation to prove your statement. Don't post something you don't have a clue about.



What do you find to be inaccurate about their statement? The temperature sensor on graphics cards is for the GPU chip, and not the VRM or VRAM. Whatever temperature is read from the GPU chip does not reflect the thermal conditions of the VRAM and VRM.
 
I hope that a cool GPU means also cool VRM and VRAM, but without thermal pads to transfer the heat from them, there seems to be significant risk to those components.


I've had my GTX 1070 FTW since September and played a lot of demanding games. No issues at all. So significant risk to components are not true. There haven't been 1 card with damaged VRM or VRAM. Nothing! And I think a lot of people with EVGA 10 series card are using agressive fan curve in Presicion X, and by that the card has no heat issue at all.  


LOL. That doesn't mean your VRM are wouldn't be running at >100c. When VRM fails, it usually fails without any warnings. Massive majority just installs the card and doesn't install Presicion X let alone use custom fan curve. I don't use Presicion X, I use Afterburner and it doesn't have any preset fancurves. Besides, the aggressive one in Presicion X is loud as hell judging by screenshots that people post.
 
The worse the case cooling, the bigger the problem. Especially if you do not do anything to the card. If everything was completely fine EVGA wouldn't kindly ship those thermal pads and update BIOSes.


If the VRM runs at 100 degrees  it will for sure have an effect on the GPU temps. If something gets really hot it will affect the surrounding areas = GPU!  About your argument about if VRM fails due to overheat. No (EVGA) card have failed due to overheated VRM. If you have some info about cards bricked, please post it. 


-_- No, VRM is far enough from GPU so that it doesn't necessarily show in GPU thermal sensor at all. VRAM is much closer and it does affect some of those chips though for sure. I never said that these cards have failed because of high VRM temperature. It is highly possible that it will happen in the future if the VRM keeps running at ridiculously high temps and the case cooling is weak. It might not fail now or even in near future. After one or two years though...
 
It has been shown in tests over and over again that VRM cooling is poor in these cards.
2016/11/12 03:55:53
rsabatino
I got a 1080 founders edition. is there no bios change for me ? 
2016/11/12 04:31:05
Anarion
rsabatino
I got a 1080 founders edition. is there no bios change for me ? 


No. It's not needed because it has the stock cooler.
2016/11/12 05:03:16
rsabatino
ok thanks
2016/11/12 05:42:43
emsir
Anarion
emsir
Anarion
emsir
delicieuxz
emsir
Anarion
clone
I must be one of the lucky ones as my 1070FTW runs very cool but ive still asked for the thermal pads.

GPU might run very cool but the VRM are could be well past the boiling point.

This is rubbish, you have no documentation to prove your statement. Don't post something you don't have a clue about.



What do you find to be inaccurate about their statement? The temperature sensor on graphics cards is for the GPU chip, and not the VRM or VRAM. Whatever temperature is read from the GPU chip does not reflect the thermal conditions of the VRAM and VRM.
 
I hope that a cool GPU means also cool VRM and VRAM, but without thermal pads to transfer the heat from them, there seems to be significant risk to those components.


I've had my GTX 1070 FTW since September and played a lot of demanding games. No issues at all. So significant risk to components are not true. There haven't been 1 card with damaged VRM or VRAM. Nothing! And I think a lot of people with EVGA 10 series card are using agressive fan curve in Presicion X, and by that the card has no heat issue at all.  


LOL. That doesn't mean your VRM are wouldn't be running at >100c. When VRM fails, it usually fails without any warnings. Massive majority just installs the card and doesn't install Presicion X let alone use custom fan curve. I don't use Presicion X, I use Afterburner and it doesn't have any preset fancurves. Besides, the aggressive one in Presicion X is loud as hell judging by screenshots that people post.
 
The worse the case cooling, the bigger the problem. Especially if you do not do anything to the card. If everything was completely fine EVGA wouldn't kindly ship those thermal pads and update BIOSes.


If the VRM runs at 100 degrees  it will for sure have an effect on the GPU temps. If something gets really hot it will affect the surrounding areas = GPU!  About your argument about if VRM fails due to overheat. No (EVGA) card have failed due to overheated VRM. If you have some info about cards bricked, please post it. 


-_- No, VRM is far enough from GPU so that it doesn't necessarily show in GPU thermal sensor at all. VRAM is much closer and it does affect some of those chips though for sure. I never said that these cards have failed because of high VRM temperature. It is highly possible that it will happen in the future if the VRM keeps running at ridiculously high temps and the case cooling is weak. It might not fail now or even in near future. After one or two years though...
 
It has been shown in tests over and over again that VRM cooling is poor in these cards.


Well, if you have these tests of the VRM cooling, please post them here, so we all can see. Links would be fine. And where do have your information from that " It is highly possible that it will happen in the future". Are you sighted or have a magic ball you can look in to? And EVGA is not responsible for poor case cooling.
2016/11/12 07:09:26
grendelrt
So now they are shipping VRAM pads as well, I am assuming this is only for if you have a gap? Or are they recommending to change out the vram pads regardless?
2016/11/12 07:11:22
GFAFS
emsir
 
Well, if you have these tests of the VRM cooling, please post them here, so we all can see. Links would be fine. And where do have your information from that " It is highly possible that it will happen in the future". Are you sighted or have a magic ball you can look in to? And EVGA is not responsible for poor case cooling.



Either you didn't take the time to read the thread, where there is some of the links you're asking for (just some of it i would add) or you just don't want to use something as simple as google/bing/duckduck/or whatever to check by yourself.
Let me help you a little with an undeniable load of fundamental facts, you'll find incredible facts such as thermal resistance, junction temperatures, reliability, Thermodynamic, Physic laws, etc,  enough to "blow" or "Overheat" one's brain : simple as clicking here.
 
I agree with you about the case cooling, but EVGA is responsible with the card cooling, which is supposed to take the average environment during the design (best/worst).

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