• EVGA GeForce 10 Series
  • Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate (p.149)
2016/11/10 11:12:44
vampyren
fightinfilipino
 
if you own a car, doesn't mean you can blast 100mph down a residential street
if you own a house, doesn't mean it's a good idea to fire up a coal BBQ inside the house
if you own a CPU, doesn't mean it's a good idea to overvolt it, run your cooling at 30%, and then run Prime95 for hours
 
ffs these are the most absurd posts i have ever seen. no card maker, EVGA or otherwise, is required to create cooling that anticipates that the end user is going to be a nonce and blatantly ignore warnings from Nvidia. 
 
just because you own a thing doesn't mean it's the manufacturer's fault when you do something patently stupid with it.
 good lord, the logic in here is astounding.



Again your saying things that are not true. The card does not come with a disclaimer. If there are limitations with the card it should state it clearly in the manual / box. And again other cards don't have the same issue. Wonder why!
Your examples are just not comparable. But if you want to take the car example, its like saying you buy a Ferrari and drive it at 200km/h which is like nothing for such a car and it breaks after a week. Your dealer tells you, well you pushed it to hard. Your logic is simply broken. 
 
Now i respect EVGA for doing all they can but i don't like people like yourself going around and pretending there is nothing wrong here. If this was nothing EVGA wouldn't make new bios for all the series, create pads etc. I doubt they are in charity business. 
2016/11/10 11:16:59
vampyren
@EVGA_JacobF 
 
Would it be possible to put up the original firmware for people using the thermal pads? I also did not know i could backup the firmware using GPU-Z so already to late for me. I got the 1080 FTW gaming AC3.0
It seems from what i read that the card will run much cooler with the pads and the extra fan speed will not really be necessary. What do you think?
 
2016/11/10 11:23:09
seahawkgfx
vampyren
@EVGA_JacobF 
 
Would it be possible to put up the original firmware for people using the thermal pads? I also did not know i could backup the firmware using GPU-Z so already to late for me. I got the 1080 FTW gaming AC3.0
It seems from what i read that the card will run much cooler with the pads and the extra fan speed will not really be necessary. What do you think?
 



https://www.techpowerup.c...-gtx1080-8192-160607-1
2016/11/10 11:26:17
Gawg36
emsir
Gawg36
emsir
seahawkgfx
If you need it for the standard 1080 ACX, sent me a PM and I mail it to you. For the SC and FTW techpowerup has those in their BIOS database.


Thank you, I will check.
For the thickness of the pads, the official statement from EVGA, is 1 mm for all their cards. So I don't know where you got 1.5 mm and 2 mm from.
Look here:
http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmmain.aspx?faqid=59314


About thickness. If you checkout the whole thread you will see these 2mm all over the place. 1.5mm is not as certain.
As for the origin of this info, good point. I think it was issued by Jacob or other EVGA rep? Oh, and on the Hexus video, they measured, live, the set from Evga. The biggest backplate one was exactly 2mm.
That's certain.
EDIT: the post you linked, I guess was before this whole issue arose. It may even be the reason in some cases for the new VRAM pads? But, absoutely 2mm is correct. Please check Nexus who used a kit provided by evga. Cheers.


No no this information from EVGA is related to this issue, so I will stick with the recommended 1 mm from EVGA.  Regarding to the link to Techpowerup about  the size of the pads. There is no info about size of the pads, so why do you link to something not available?  Even more strange....why do you want pm about size of the pads for the standard card? Is it secret?
Yes i know there is a lot of misleading posts about the thickness. It's very annoying people post wrong numbers. They think they know somethng, and pretending to be "specialists".
 
 
 


The video is  Hexus, not techpower up. I am NOT linking to anything. You can find that yourself, actually on the first page of this thread I think Jacob linked to the video, but it's widely available.
But NOT Techpower up, Hexus. I am 100% sure the backplate thick pad is 2mm. Unless Hexus measured wrongly, but they did it live, so I doubt it. Don't accuse me of linking. I made no link. LOOK at the post. What the heck are you on about PM. I have not sent any Pm to anyone about this. You didn't read at all, and accused me of stuff I didn't do or say.
Please please, if you spend 5 minutes researching you will find that what I said about thickness is correct. No doubt.
I don't appreciate you saying I linked or sent PM I did no such thing, and how would you know if I PMed someone anyway.
Your post is nonsense. Go ahead, use the 1mm, in fact it may work, but that's not what EVGA send. The evga kit, wide pad is 2mm thick period. I am repeating so perhaps you will take the time to read. Again it's exceedingly rude, wrong, and plain lies to say I made a LInk I DID NOT Open you ......eyes. Same goes  for PM nothing. Really I don't know how you could be so mistaken and not read properly.
 
EDIT Jacobs linked video is Gamer Nexus, not Hexus - just to be completely clear.
2016/11/10 11:30:41
Gawg36
Emsir, I apologize if that post was directed at seahawkkgfx. It it was to me it's wrong what you said. Sorry in advance, just in case
2016/11/10 12:25:23
DamZe
ETA on when the updated thermal mod(vRAM) will ship?
2016/11/10 12:39:05
Gawg36
DamZe
ETA on when the updated thermal mod(vRAM) will ship?




Any pads that have NOT yet shipped will include the VRAM pads. So originally only 2, back plate and above VRM/Mosfets. Now there are 3 seperate types, the third one is the VRAM one that you are asking about.
 
I am sorry to say all that, I think you already know, you just wondered about shipping of the VRAM pads. I wrote it all (this whole post I mean) clearly because a little earlier in this thread someone said I was wrong about the thickness.
They also said I included a link. And unbelievably that I sent some kind of PM - I don't even know what he's talking about. I NEVER made any link. I NEVER sent or offered to send a PM. I am correct about the thickness of the original two (thick and thin pads) It's abundantly clear and it's even in the Nexus video that Jacob linked to on the first page of this thread.
 
That's why I am being super clear, people seem restless, and I was contradicted (that's OK) and I was accused of links and PM (That's NOT ok - I never did any such thing.
 
Please understand DamZe, this has nothing to do with you and is not directed to you in anyway. I am just hoping EMSIR will clarify his situation. I am stumped about this, and annoyed at being mis quoted.
If you or anyone looks above, and checks the nexus video link on Page 1 it's clear I was stating what is true, that's all.
 
@EMSIR Did you direct you post to me? Or were you mistaken? I would just like to know. I won't flame at all, I am just so curious how this happened. Thank you
2016/11/10 13:16:41
Chloestick
vampyren
@EVGA_JacobF 
 
Would it be possible to put up the original firmware for people using the thermal pads? I also did not know i could backup the firmware using GPU-Z so already to late for me. I got the 1080 FTW gaming AC3.0
It seems from what i read that the card will run much cooler with the pads and the extra fan speed will not really be necessary. What do you think?
 

Use Afterburner or Precision to make your own custom fan curve. Don't need to revert the BIOS really.
2016/11/10 15:08:18
gahelm
Many people, myself included, do not want to run any additional software on their computer so they cannot use a custom fan curve.  The new fan curve is far too aggressive and has turned my card into a small Hoover.  Even the second iteration that they just released is still too loud.  If we have the thermal pads in place we shouldn't need this new noisy fan curve if I am understanding the issues correctly.  Having said that, I would like to be able to use an Official EVGA update program to restore my original fan curve when my new card with proper thermal pads arrives.
2016/11/10 15:17:55
emsir
Gawg36
emsir
Gawg36
emsir
seahawkgfx
If you need it for the standard 1080 ACX, sent me a PM and I mail it to you. For the SC and FTW techpowerup has those in their BIOS database.


Thank you, I will check.
For the thickness of the pads, the official statement from EVGA, is 1 mm for all their cards. So I don't know where you got 1.5 mm and 2 mm from.
Look here:
http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmmain.aspx?faqid=59314


About thickness. If you checkout the whole thread you will see these 2mm all over the place. 1.5mm is not as certain.
As for the origin of this info, good point. I think it was issued by Jacob or other EVGA rep? Oh, and on the Hexus video, they measured, live, the set from Evga. The biggest backplate one was exactly 2mm.
That's certain.
EDIT: the post you linked, I guess was before this whole issue arose. It may even be the reason in some cases for the new VRAM pads? But, absoutely 2mm is correct. Please check Nexus who used a kit provided by evga. Cheers.


No no this information from EVGA is related to this issue, so I will stick with the recommended 1 mm from EVGA.  Regarding to the link to Techpowerup about  the size of the pads. There is no info about size of the pads, so why do you link to something not available?  Even more strange....why do you want pm about size of the pads for the standard card? Is it secret?
Yes i know there is a lot of misleading posts about the thickness. It's very annoying people post wrong numbers. They think they know somethng, and pretending to be "specialists".
 
 
 


The video is  Hexus, not techpower up. I am NOT linking to anything. You can find that yourself, actually on the first page of this thread I think Jacob linked to the video, but it's widely available.
But NOT Techpower up, Hexus. I am 100% sure the backplate thick pad is 2mm. Unless Hexus measured wrongly, but they did it live, so I doubt it. Don't accuse me of linking. I made no link. LOOK at the post. What the heck are you on about PM. I have not sent any Pm to anyone about this. You didn't read at all, and accused me of stuff I didn't do or say.
Please please, if you spend 5 minutes researching you will find that what I said about thickness is correct. No doubt.
I don't appreciate you saying I linked or sent PM I did no such thing, and how would you know if I PMed someone anyway.
Your post is nonsense. Go ahead, use the 1mm, in fact it may work, but that's not what EVGA send. The evga kit, wide pad is 2mm thick period. I am repeating so perhaps you will take the time to read. Again it's exceedingly rude, wrong, and plain lies to say I made a LInk I DID NOT Open you ......eyes. Same goes  for PM nothing. Really I don't know how you could be so mistaken and not read properly.
 
EDIT Jacobs linked video is Gamer Nexus, not Hexus - just to be completely clear.


You got it all wrong.....I was asking you about the SIZE and NOT the thickness. Read my  post. I asked if you knew the actual size....like  25,2 mm wide X 16,5 mm high or whatever. Í don't really care about what Nexus says in his video. I know for a fact that the pads EVGA sends out are 1mm.  If Nexus says they are 2 mm, I really don't care.
 
About the PM. You wrote that if i had the Standard GTX 10 card I could PM you. Look in your posts and see. But it really doesn't matter, I was just wondering why i should send you a PM.

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