• EVGA GeForce 10 Series
  • Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate (p.147)
2016/11/10 07:42:16
Gawg36
emsir
Gawg36
Omarlink
The status of thermal pads change, now says "pending shipment" but whats means? 1. The ship its coming 2. The ship is taking more time.



Well I am not holding my breath. I ordered on Oct 25, and last time I checked it said, "awaiting shipment." Or very similar. I ended up finding the measurements of all pads inc. thickness of course and have bought my own.
I think EVGA have received a deluge of requests, so I guess that statement means, "Not shipped yet, and no idea when we will." Could be waiting aloooooonnngggg time.
Good luck getting them this month for what it's worth. 


Could you please post the measurements of all the pads?






Yeah. For the original 2 places, (Back plate, and above VRMs The back plate one is 2mm, the thin one above the VRMs in 1mm. But this is for the FTW which I have. The thickness is a bit different for non FTW. But, I know this thread is long, but the thickness of for all cards pads, of the first two fixes are posted several times in this thread. I recommend you check for yourself for piece of mind, and if your card is not FTW you will need to because I can't remember that. (doesn't apply to me.)
 
About the recent additional pads, the ones which are stuck or put onto the VRAMS themselves this is pretty new. I haven't seen definitive measurements from EVGA (I may have missed it, but I think not.)
Several people have measured and the consensus for the vrams is 1.5mm to be safe. 1 mm would probably be fine and each card will have tiny differences so I have ordered 1.5mm for the VRAMS. If it's tight, I don't see it as a problem. They will be compressed and at max they would only be a fraction of a mm to thick. Best thing is to read through here and decide about VRAM pads yourself, I am only expressing an opinion.
But, the measurements for the other two are clear and easy to find in this massive thread.
Just for the heck of it I list what I am doing. (FTW only). Large one backplate 2mm. Thin one above VRMS/mosfets 1mm. The VRAMS themselves are below that and it's a new finding so I am going with 1.5mm for them. I have spare 1mm in case it is too thick, but several people have already done the new VRAM mod and they all used 1.5mm from reading most of the posts on this massive thread.
Don't take my word for it though. I know I am right about the first two (one thick pad and one thin one) Not 100% about the new issue of VRAMS, and I am only referring to the FTW. Obvious but worth saying - the original thermal pad kit contained pads for two places. The new ones (starting a day or two ago?) are for another place. So, doing everything will require a BIOS update, and application of thermal pads on three seperate places, not the original two. Does that help?
2016/11/10 07:45:48
GFAFS
emsir
 
I've had my GTX 1070 FTW since September and played a lot of demanding games. No issues at all. So significant risk to components are not true. There haven't been 1 card with damaged VRM or VRAM. Nothing! And I think a lot of people with EVGA 10 series card are using agressive fan curve in Presicion X, and by that the card has no heat issue at all.  




Since my ticket is finally being addressed as asked, i'll take a second for a friendly advise. I really hope you're talking as a user/customer, know that in case of legal action IPs could be demanded and cross checked to alleviate doubts. In all case, you're not Helping EVGA at all if it was your intention, but fueling with these statements begs for anger punch directed on EVGA.
2016/11/10 08:03:09
Anarion
emsir
delicieuxz
emsir
Anarion
clone
I must be one of the lucky ones as my 1070FTW runs very cool but ive still asked for the thermal pads.

GPU might run very cool but the VRM are could be well past the boiling point.

This is rubbish, you have no documentation to prove your statement. Don't post something you don't have a clue about.



What do you find to be inaccurate about their statement? The temperature sensor on graphics cards is for the GPU chip, and not the VRM or VRAM. Whatever temperature is read from the GPU chip does not reflect the thermal conditions of the VRAM and VRM.
 
I hope that a cool GPU means also cool VRM and VRAM, but without thermal pads to transfer the heat from them, there seems to be significant risk to those components.


I've had my GTX 1070 FTW since September and played a lot of demanding games. No issues at all. So significant risk to components are not true. There haven't been 1 card with damaged VRM or VRAM. Nothing! And I think a lot of people with EVGA 10 series card are using agressive fan curve in Presicion X, and by that the card has no heat issue at all.  


LOL. That doesn't mean your VRM are wouldn't be running at >100c. When VRM fails, it usually fails without any warnings. Massive majority just installs the card and doesn't install Presicion X let alone use custom fan curve. I don't use Presicion X, I use Afterburner and it doesn't have any preset fancurves. Besides, the aggressive one in Presicion X is loud as hell judging by screenshots that people post.
 
The worse the case cooling, the bigger the problem. Especially if you do not do anything to the card. If everything was completely fine EVGA wouldn't kindly ship those thermal pads and update BIOSes.
2016/11/10 08:07:58
ilyama
I think it's fine but not for all users... thats why there is a thermal pad...
2016/11/10 08:30:20
penguinnss
I just recently installed the new bios but the fan curve didn't appear to change on the primary BIOS, is this supposed to happen?  The fans do not move at low temps but I thought that with the update they would.
2016/11/10 08:33:34
dzernesto

2016/11/10 08:34:56
Omarlink
Gawg36
emsir
Gawg36
Omarlink
The status of thermal pads change, now says "pending shipment" but whats means? 1. The ship its coming 2. The ship is taking more time.



Well I am not holding my breath. I ordered on Oct 25, and last time I checked it said, "awaiting shipment." Or very similar. I ended up finding the measurements of all pads inc. thickness of course and have bought my own.
I think EVGA have received a deluge of requests, so I guess that statement means, "Not shipped yet, and no idea when we will." Could be waiting aloooooonnngggg time.
Good luck getting them this month for what it's worth. 


Could you please post the measurements of all the pads?






Yeah. For the original 2 places, (Back plate, and above VRMs The back plate one is 2mm, the thin one above the VRMs in 1mm. But this is for the FTW which I have. The thickness is a bit different for non FTW. But, I know this thread is long, but the thickness of for all cards pads, of the first two fixes are posted several times in this thread. I recommend you check for yourself for piece of mind, and if your card is not FTW you will need to because I can't remember that. (doesn't apply to me.)
 
About the recent additional pads, the ones which are stuck or put onto the VRAMS themselves this is pretty new. I haven't seen definitive measurements from EVGA (I may have missed it, but I think not.)
Several people have measured and the consensus for the vrams is 1.5mm to be safe. 1 mm would probably be fine and each card will have tiny differences so I have ordered 1.5mm for the VRAMS. If it's tight, I don't see it as a problem. They will be compressed and at max they would only be a fraction of a mm to thick. Best thing is to read through here and decide about VRAM pads yourself, I am only expressing an opinion.
But, the measurements for the other two are clear and easy to find in this massive thread.
Just for the heck of it I list what I am doing. (FTW only). Large one backplate 2mm. Thin one above VRMS/mosfets 1mm. The VRAMS themselves are below that and it's a new finding so I am going with 1.5mm for them. I have spare 1mm in case it is too thick, but several people have already done the new VRAM mod and they all used 1.5mm from reading most of the posts on this massive thread.
Don't take my word for it though. I know I am right about the first two (one thick pad and one thin one) Not 100% about the new issue of VRAMS, and I am only referring to the FTW. Obvious but worth saying - the original thermal pad kit contained pads for two places. The new ones (starting a day or two ago?) are for another place. So, doing everything will require a BIOS update, and application of thermal pads on three seperate places, not the original two. Does that help?


I think its better buy the pads because is taking so a long time to ship this, i really sorry for EVGA because the next time i buy some graphic card the last option will be EVGA. 
2016/11/10 08:35:07
DeathAngel74
Everyone in a frenzy to get their Thermal pads and whining about how long it is taking to get them. I hope the Do send out a pacifier and some duct tape as a joke. On a more serious note though, every generation has had its problems. The 970 3.5gb vram disaster, now micron aka Elpida issues, etc. My old 970 ftw+ would show bad artifacts if the vram was oc'd too high due to heat or any resolution other than 1080p, again Elpida vram. Just sayin' ya'll complaining isn't going to make the pads ship out faster. Try to have a nice 3 day weekend everyone. Today's my Friday! W00T!
2016/11/10 09:12:56
seahawkgfx
So I tested the new BIOS for the 1080 ACX 3.0 and I think this is not acceptable. Running Heaven the fans spun at ~1250rpm at 20°C room temperature, with the new BIOS they go up to 2050rpm. This is clearly audible when not using headphones. 800rpm more is way too much imho.
 
I went back to the original BIOS and will wait for the thermalmod pads to arrive. Could we get a less noisy BIOS for the cards with the thermal mod in place please? (Say 73°C at around 1600-1700 rpm?)
2016/11/10 09:14:10
gahelm
seahawkgfx
So I tested the new BIOS for the 1080 ACX 3.0 and I think this is not acceptable. Running Heaven the fans spun at ~1250rpm at 20°C room temperature, with the new BIOS they go up to 2050rpm. This is clearly audible when not using headphones. 800rpm more is way too much imho.
 
I went back to the original BIOS and will wait for the thermalmod pads to arrive.


So out of curiosity, how can you go back to the original bios?  I would like the original bios for the 08G-P4-6181-KR  New bios is too loud.

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