Eagleizer

brokencross

BRooDJeRo
What should be the nominal and under high load temperatures for the VRM's on these cards according to factory specifications? Even with a fan curve modification/bios update it still seems to be around 95 degrees Celsius according to Gamer Nexus. That still seems quite high with that being close to the boiling point of water (100C) although it isn't water, but temperatures of 90/95C+ are usually still a reason for alarm. Does any electronics technician have any more information on this?
Also, what will the temperature be after the thermal pads modification?

Tweet with temps: 

What you can't forget is that they were pushing the cards to the limit with furmark loops. They'll never reach those temps when gaming.

How do you know? Future games are not here yet.. People are having problems without running Furmark. 
Me included.. And in SLI they get a lot hotter, at least on the GPU. 
You should read this: 
 
 ->guru3d.com/news-story/evga-gtx-10701080-cards-almost-all-of-them-have-overheating-issues.html

Because no game is a power virus.
And what problems are you having?

Scarlet-Tech
If you don't want to do the updates, Don't. Your card is still covered under warranty and won't have many (if any) issues. It's your choice. I am not going to change your mind, and adding an easy solution to what people assume is a disaster doesn't help. Have a good day.

I plan to update the BIOS and apply the Thermal pads when i get them. However i'm curious what would happen if i didn't?
 
Not looking for an "official announcement" from EVGA or anything, more like honest opinion from the users here. Do guys think it would be dangerous to skip all these steps? Would the card get damaged in the long term like in 2~3 years in the future? 

Scarlet-Tech
The vrm temperatures went up because the fan speed went down. Does that not make sense? Stand in the summer sun with no air movement and you will overheat. The wind blows and you cool off (air movement helps remove heat away).

The micron issue is an Nvidia fault. Every manufacturer was effected.

The rest is just repetitive and has been addressed.

If you don't want to do the updates, Don't. Your card is still covered under warranty and won't have many (if any) issues. It's your choice. I am not going to change your mind, and adding an easy solution to what people assume is a disaster doesn't help. Have a good day.

Patronizing won't help, i will pass on the summer metaphor...
 
I don't care if it's Nvidia fault or not, i bought your branded card, and i want it Rma'ed and fixed properly for me to enjoy using the card without any interruption as it should be, that's what i'm saying and asking if you read all my posts. And clearly i will not update the card, being bios wise or pad wise, it's not what i paid for.

Evil_Betox

Scarlet-Tech
If you don't want to do the updates, Don't. Your card is still covered under warranty and won't have many (if any) issues. It's your choice. I am not going to change your mind, and adding an easy solution to what people assume is a disaster doesn't help. Have a good day.

I plan to update the BIOS and apply the Thermal pads when i get them. However i'm curious what would happen if i didn't?
 
Not looking for an "official announcement" from EVGA or anything, more like honest opinion from the users here. Do guys think it would be dangerous to skip all these steps? Would the card get damaged in the long term like in 2~3 years in the future? 

If you turn the fans up to 50%, nothing would happen more than likely. I ran mine for 2 straight months without touching anything and left it folding and never experienced even a black screen.. The pcb never even got hot.

If the fans were left at 30%, it would probably wear down the VRM over time, but it's unlikely it would be a serious issue. Unfortunately I don't have have a way to test it and know for sure.

GFAFS

Scarlet-Tech
The vrm temperatures went up because the fan speed went down. Does that not make sense? Stand in the summer sun with no air movement and you will overheat. The wind blows and you cool off (air movement helps remove heat away).

The micron issue is an Nvidia fault. Every manufacturer was effected.

The rest is just repetitive and has been addressed.

If you don't want to do the updates, Don't. Your card is still covered under warranty and won't have many (if any) issues. It's your choice. I am not going to change your mind, and adding an easy solution to what people assume is a disaster doesn't help. Have a good day.

Patronizing won't help, i will pass on the summer metaphor...
 
I don't care if it's Nvidia fault or not, i bought your branded card, and i want it Rma'ed and fixed properly for me to enjoy using the card without any interruption as it should be, that's what i'm saying and asking if you read all my posts. And clearly i will not update the card, being bios wise or pad wise, it's not what i paid for.

I don't make graphics card.. I am in the military. I wish I could make graphics cards.

Why did I word it that way? Because you are assuming, just like with everything else, that I work for EVGA. I am not an evga employee, so putting " your graphics card" is completely false as my graphic cards are all sitting in my house right now. Had you bought mine, you would find that it works perfect and doesn't get hot because I run my fan at 50% (stock slave profile for the ftw).

So downloading and clicking on an exe is some sort of obscenely onerous act now. What a bunch of drama queens.

You wanted a "fix" for a problem that doesn't exist (unless all you do is run benchmarks in a loop for hours) and you got it. Result: more complaining.

This is starting to look bad. There are lots of questions due to EVGAs mistake that EVGA ignore.  personally I want to know why my pads need approval to send, that what it says. I have done everything right (card registered, reciept sent everything possible). There is no info or ETA of them either. 
 
Scarlet tech is doing a really good job, but he is a forum moderator. Why is there so little feedback from company reps, Jacob included. At first it went well, I mean I was fairly pleased with the ease of ordering. On October 25th. A week later and they are awaiting approval!! This really is a step backward. In the meantime this bios fan adjustment just appeared. Sure it's a good thing, but wasn't handled well.
 
I feel EVGA have to a degree had enough and are abandoning customers issues. As said Scarlet is doing the best he can, kudos to him. But many of these things need direct answers from the company themselves.
 
I have no issue flashing a bios or putting in the thermal pads. It's an easy  procedure. But I find the lack of information about when we can do these things to be getting really sloppy. Not something I would have ever expected to say about EVGA. Takes a long time to build a top reputation for customer service, and EVGA have deserved it. If EVGA don't start properly addressing our questions customers are going to start getting angry (many already are). It's still relatively early days, but time is passing and nothing much is happening. Losing a reputation for outstanding customer service can be wiped out with one incident, if people feel they have been shafted. EVGA need to address this quickly, answer our questions, be transparant and honest. That's what upsets me. Free pads - great! A week later in approval process, not even sent yet. That is not acceptable! NO explanation either. Annoying.
 
I am also rapidly approaching a complete breakdown of trust due to the lack of transparency. If this isn't dealt with soon I will very sadly join the others who never buy EVGA again.
This is a kind of real life test. Sending out pads, making new Bios available are great. But it counts for nothing if it's delayed and delayed again. Also people need their questions answered.
Seeing as this whole screw up is the fault, totally of EVGAs making I'm starting to get pretty shocked at the lack of interest or urgency, lack of solid info, questions unanswered.
 
Really, it's starting to look very sloppy. A shame because this could and should have been dealt with quickly, efficiently and with full transparency. This is currently NOT the case.

Gawg36
I have no issue flashing a bios or putting in the thermal pads. It's an easy  procedure. But I find the lack of information about when we can do these things to be getting really sloppy. Not something I would have ever expected to say about EVGA. Takes a long time to build a top reputation for customer service, and EVGA have deserved it. If EVGA don't start properly addressing our questions customers are going to start getting angry (many already are). It's still relatively early days, but time is passing and nothing much is happening. Losing a reputation for outstanding customer service can be wiped out with one incident, if people feel they have been shafted. EVGA need to address this quickly, answer our questions, be transparant and honest. That's what upsets me. Free pads - great! A week later in approval process, not even sent yet. That is not acceptable! NO explanation either. Annoying.
 
I am also rapidly approaching a complete breakdown of trust due to the lack of transparency. If this isn't dealt with soon I will very sadly join the others who never buy EVGA again.
This is a kind of real life test. Sending out pads, making new Bios available are great. But it counts for nothing if it's delayed and delayed again. Also people need their questions answered.
Seeing as this whole screw up is the fault, totally of EVGAs making I'm starting to get pretty shocked at the lack of interest or urgency, lack of solid info, questions unanswered.
 
Really, it's starting to look very sloppy. A shame because this could and should have been dealt with quickly, efficiently and with full transparency. This is currently NOT the case.

That's fair. They've had some time to get their act together and it still seems like they're running a fire drill. The messaging has not been adequate so far and it is pretty ridiculous that shipping dates for the pads (and powwerlink now that I think about it) remains a mystery.

It's actually the above that's let this thing turn from a molehill into a mountain.

Bar81
So downloading and clicking on an exe is some sort of obscenely onerous act now. What a bunch of drama queens.

You wanted a "fix" for a problem that doesn't exist (unless all you do is run benchmarks in a loop for hours) and you got it. Result: more complaining.

+1
 
All the information is already out there, in this forum. The answer to everyone's questions. The problem is the abundance of whiney spoiled 5 year olds who want everything spoon fed to them. It's pathetic 
Learn how to adjust the fan profile!!! God!!! You shouldn't need a bios update to increase fan speed. smh
Some people as evidenced by some the tantrumshere, have more money than  brains.

Scarlet-Tech
I don't make graphics card.. I am in the military. I wish I could make graphics cards.

Why did I word it that way? Because you are assuming, just like with everything else, that I work for EVGA. I am not an evga employee, so putting " your graphics card" is completely false as my graphic cards are all sitting in my house right now. Had you bought mine, you would find that it works perfect and doesn't get hot because I run my fan at 50% (stock slave profile for the ftw).

Ok..., playing rhetoric now, by "your" i'm obviously targeting EVGA, you're a moderator and yes i assume it's with EVGA consent even though you're not an employee..., you won't dismiss me that way, but nice effort.

 
I think we're done indeed, you made your point i made mine. I'm waiting for a Real official to quote me.
 
Have a nice day Scarlet-Tech.