• EVGA GeForce 10 Series
  • Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate (p.13)
2016/11/02 07:27:01
Paragon_X
Do we have an ETA on the Thermal Pads? Also as many other noted My request is pending approval even though its on the list above.
2016/11/02 07:28:35
Scarlet-Tech
GFAFSI understand you're doing your job, quite well i would say, but what people are assuming right now is even an easy task should not be burden on the end user, at least not for the Price of the card.


People update the bios on their motherboard rather than sending it back for every update... Why would they do that since it requires the end user to update hardware that cost as much if not more than a GPU sometimes?

People are legitimately blowing this out of proportion for no reason. It takes longer to update a motherboard bios.

Remember when Nvidia released the 1070 Micron update? That was for every single manufacturer, and very few complaints. People simply opened the file as required and updated the bios. That was only 2 or 3 weeks ago.
2016/11/02 07:31:51
Scarlet-Tech
carb1de
my 1070 FTW hits 82°C at 1440p approx. 100-130 average FPS on standard fan profile (playing DOOM). it also crashes with an odd checquerboard back to desktop.
 
if I flash this bios, and install the pads, will the problem go away, or has the memory now been cooked? as I understand it, the actual VRM temp isn't so much of an issue as the heat soak to the memory with a max 95°C operating temp?
 
When does the actual burning of components happen? after VRM temp has been sat above ###°C sustained?
 
Didn't realise the brilliant advance rma service is only available if you take it out with the first 30 days of registration. so I will be left without a video card if it dies?
 
Can't believe I didn't buy the MSI gaming x for the same price! miffed!


Have you check your gpu to see if it has micron memory? If you have micron memory, have you updated the bios for micron memory? If jot, you should do that now, and see if it helps.
2016/11/02 07:36:34
spryguy
Having to flash the bios is not my issue, the resulting fan noise is. My box my card came in will essentially have false advertising on it.
2016/11/02 07:39:24
GFAFS
Scarlet-Tech
GFAFSI understand you're doing your job, quite well i would say, but what people are assuming right now is even an easy task should not be burden on the end user, at least not for the Price of the card.


People update the bios on their motherboard rather than sending it back for every update... Why would they do that since it requires the end user to update hardware that cost as much if not more than a GPU sometimes?

People are legitimately blowing this out of proportion for no reason. It takes longer to update a motherboard bios.

Remember when Nvidia released the 1070 Micron update? That was for every single manufacturer, and very few complaints. People simply opened the file as required and updated the bios. That was only 2 or 3 weeks ago.

You should know as well as i do, that most of the users DO NOT update their Bios at all on their motherboards/GC, the exact reason why the manufacturers developed some easy way to flash nands in the first place.
Yes i remember the "microngate", but here it's one problem too much..., first the bios, now the "padgate". The bios will only cover the hardware design issue. This is not a solution. AT ALL
 
Btw Samsung also tried to tinker with the battery settings to prevent a recall(software wise), but wasn't enough to prevent the hardware issue.
2016/11/02 07:39:42
Scarlet-Tech
spryguy
Having to flash the bios is not my issue, the resulting fan noise is. My box my card came in will essentially have false advertising on it.


The card can still have 0% fan speed. The resulting noise is actually not as loud as many are assuming. I run my fans between 50 and 60% on an open bench, and the stock Intel cpu cooler is louder than the GPU.
2016/11/02 07:43:51
Scarlet-Tech
GFAFS
Scarlet-Tech
GFAFSI understand you're doing your job, quite well i would say, but what people are assuming right now is even an easy task should not be burden on the end user, at least not for the Price of the card.


People update the bios on their motherboard rather than sending it back for every update... Why would they do that since it requires the end user to update hardware that cost as much if not more than a GPU sometimes?

People are legitimately blowing this out of proportion for no reason. It takes longer to update a motherboard bios.

Remember when Nvidia released the 1070 Micron update? That was for every single manufacturer, and very few complaints. People simply opened the file as required and updated the bios. That was only 2 or 3 weeks ago.

You should know as well as i do, that most of the users DO NOT update their Bios at all on their motherboard, the exact reason why the manufacturers developed some easy way to flash nands in the first place.
Yes i remember the "microngate", but here it's one problem too much..., first the bios, now the "padgate". The bios will only cover the hardware design issue. This is not a solution. AT ALL
 
Btw samsung also tried to tinker with the battery settings to prevent a recall(software wise), but wasn't enough to prevent the hardware issue.


Please do me a favor. In depth, explain the hardware issue. I am being serious.

This design was used on the 770 ftw, 780ftw, 780 classified, 780ti classified, 780ti K|ngp|n, 970 FTW+, 980 FTW, 980 Classified, 980 K|ngp|n, 980ti FTW, 980ti classified, 980ti K|ngp|n, and numerous other cards

The 900 series even had 0% fan speeds...

So, if it has worked for so long without any notice, and it is still the same design... How is it suddenly a hardware issue?

What changed? It's a very easy answer.. Fan speed. That was the only change.

The bios update will allow higher fan speed and reduce the need for thermal pads. The thermal pads will transfer the heat reducing the need for higher fan speeds. Using both will go reduce the heat across both areas even more. GamerNexus is actively testing everything and updating the page in the second post.
2016/11/02 07:55:27
DSP1
The real hardware issue is whether the components chosen by EVGA to use on the PCB by their suppliers (on Semiconductor et al) are of inferior quality as compared to other manufacturers, MSi,Gigabyte Asus etc. That is the issue that needs addressing. Do these components inherently run hotter than other suppliers of the same components. Once that issue has been cleared up then you can start to talk about how or whether the cooling design is efficacious.
2016/11/02 07:58:06
GFAFS
Scarlet-Tech
 

Please do me a favor. In depth, explain the hardware issue. I am being serious.

This design was used on the 770 ftw, 780ftw, 780 classified, 780ti classified, 780ti K|ngp|n, 970 FTW+, 980 FTW, 980 Classified, 980 K|ngp|n, 980ti FTW, 980ti classified, 980ti K|ngp|n, and numerous other cards

The 900 series even had 0% fan speeds...

So, if it has worked for so long without any notice, and it is still the same design... How is it suddenly a hardware issue?

What changed? It's a very easy answer.. Fan speed. That was the only change.

 
Sorry, but the VRM's temperature IS a design hardware issue,  which is side patched with an "emergency trick" being blowing "more air and or more/less V" than designed on paper and after being tested by EVGA before the release.
Let me return you politely the questions, if there is no design hardware issue underneath, why the micron Bios? why this Bios?, why the pads?
 
So, yes i say it again it's design hardware issues.
2016/11/02 08:06:58
Scarlet-Tech
GFAFS
Scarlet-Tech
 

Please do me a favor. In depth, explain the hardware issue. I am being serious.

This design was used on the 770 ftw, 780ftw, 780 classified, 780ti classified, 780ti K|ngp|n, 970 FTW+, 980 FTW, 980 Classified, 980 K|ngp|n, 980ti FTW, 980ti classified, 980ti K|ngp|n, and numerous other cards

The 900 series even had 0% fan speeds...

So, if it has worked for so long without any notice, and it is still the same design... How is it suddenly a hardware issue?

What changed? It's a very easy answer.. Fan speed. That was the only change.

 
Sorry, but the VRM's temperature IS a design hardware issue,  which is side patched with an "emergency trick" being blowing "more air and or more/less V" than designed on paper and after being tested by EVGA before the release.
Let me return you politely the question, if there is no design hardware issue underneath, why the micron Bios? why this Bios?, why the pads?
 
So, yes i say it again it's design hardware issue.


The vrm temperatures went up because the fan speed went down. Does that not make sense? Stand in the summer sun with no air movement and you will overheat. The wind blows and you cool off (air movement helps remove heat away).

The micron issue is an Nvidia fault. Every manufacturer was effected.

The rest is just repetitive and has been addressed.

If you don't want to do the updates, Don't. Your card is still covered under warranty and won't have many (if any) issues. It's your choice. I am not going to change your mind, and adding an easy solution to what people assume is a disaster doesn't help. Have a good day.

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