• EVGA GeForce 10 Series
  • Update 11/9/16 with NEW BIOS - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080/1070/1060 PWM Temperature Upadate (p.115)
2016/11/06 08:05:32
luckyirishlad
Ok the question was asked re  EVGA 1070 SC Gaming

"Anyone with a trained eye that can tell if there´s a gap there?"



Lets take a look shall we



Give me a moment while i enhance



Result



Yep confirmed could park a bus in that gap .....Do not believe me well ...



 

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2016/11/06 08:08:20
TheRogueOne
Hi, i have an evga 1070 sc, i don't do overclock, overall is going great. My question is: i have to install new bios and eventually thermal pads? Even if i don't overclock it? Thanks all
2016/11/06 08:08:43
acxcoolerssuck
darkheran
acxcoolerssuck
darkheran
acxcoolerssuck
Mangelwurzel
Video entitled "How to Install Thermal Pad Mod on EVGA GTX 1080 & 1070" on Gamers Nexus channel.
Just wondering what anyone makes of these comments made by someone named 'acnfanmanin':
 
 
"THATS NOT WHERE YOU PUT THE FRONT THERMAL PAD. You should put it on the HOTTEST part which is ON the baseplate itself. Those things you put on top of are CHOKES which doesnt get hot and dont mind being hot. You want the baseplate to be cold so it can cool the mosfets."
 

"No you're not supposed to put it on top of the chokes is what I'm saying. those things don't need cooling (look at motherboards and watercooling blocks they're never cooled) so you're wasting thermal pad contact area putting it there. You're better off putting it on the baseplate area on the right of the chokes because the mosfets which do get VERY hot are located under there connected to the baseplate."
 
"if EVGA told them to put it on the chokes...wt*...you're basically trying to cool a piece of copper...why"


well, this is interesting.
1. according to those ir images, the chokes/inductors & capacitors have got very hot too. 
2. placing pads on top the chokes/inductors to try making contact and spreading heat to the main heatsink is possible. but the efficiency should be very low in the case of acx3.0 because above main heatsink's fins of those chokes have not folded (90 degrees) so it is hard for the pads to spread the heat from the inductors to the main heatsink.  



Yeah the fins are what my concerns are with. Gamersnexus commented in their article that the method was certainly not the most desired choice but its the best they have come up with right now.
Article where they mentioned the fins


certainly the fins is vertical for the air to push through the heatsink and cool the midplate, in the original design.
so placing pads on top of chokes may really has a contact problem lol. consider how thick is each fin at that area above the chokes, lol. 
 
i personally will cut a thermal pad strip for the chokes only and place this strip on top of the chokes, just like msi gamingx.  but i wont place the pads on top of the midplate which covers the area of mosfets. because i am afraid the pads would block the airflow to cool the mosfet. i guess the midplate is a better heat collector than the thermal pad... blowing air to the thermal pad sounds very stupid.   



At that point it gets to advanced of a decision for me to comment on myself. I will probably apply the modification with the given materials. I mean given the thermal reduction shown through tests done by gamersnexus (of which im happy with the results shown) I can't see how it would be a bad option just doing it the way the thermal pad has been delivered.


yes, even there are temp differences between the positions of the pads being placed, the evga method already solves the problem, so no need to bother generally.
2016/11/06 08:12:02
darkheran
TheRogueOne
Hi, i have an evga 1070 sc, i don't do overclock, overall is going great. My question is: i have to install new bios and eventually thermal pads? Even if i don't overclock it? Thanks all



Honestly at this point I would advise it yes. I also own a 1070 SC and I have the new VBIOS, and all the VRM/Mosfet related issues aside im much happier with the new 0db fan curve on the new VBIOS just because of the core temps. As far as the thermal pads id also advise that, and they have said you are under warranty even if you attempt yourself, and you will learn alot in the process + have insurance to do so. Lastly if you truly are uncomfortable they offer an RMA for the fix. But note that if you card is out of the 30 days from purchase gap that you may and likely will receive a non-new card replacement with the fixes applied (i.e. you get to play silicon lottery again).
2016/11/06 08:14:13
gahelm
luckyirishlad
Ok the question was asked re  EVGA 1070 SC Gaming


"Anyone with a trained eye that can tell if there´s a gap there?"





Lets take a look shall we





Give me a moment while i enhance





Result





Yep confirmed could park a bus in that gap .....Do not believe me well ...





There can be no doubt that the thermal pads shown is this picture are not being used appropriately.  For a thermally conductive pad to provide any use at all it MUST be in contact with the heat generating device!  
 
I am an EVGA fan no doubt, but i am seriously shocked at the obvious lack of care shown in these pictures.  Somebody cut corners and should be reprimanded at the least for this.
2016/11/06 08:14:38
darkheran
luckyirishlad
Ok the question was asked re  EVGA 1070 SC Gaming

"Anyone with a trained eye that can tell if there´s a gap there?"



Lets take a look shall we



Give me a moment while i enhance



Result



Yep confirmed could park a bus in that gap .....Do not believe me well ...



 



lol this is killing me XD


Meanwhile on the magic schoolbus...



2016/11/06 08:17:23
gahelm
Gotta admit, that is funny.  
2016/11/06 08:22:50
Enosoma
FYI,
Even with a custom fan curve, the vbios update still increased fan RPMs by about 400.
 
I have a custom fan curve, set to turn fans on at 48 degrees, go to 55% when the card is 55c, graduating to 70% at 80c.
Before the vbios update, my card sat at around 57 degrees full load with fans at ~58% which was ~1650RPM. After the update, I kept my fan curve the same as it was, but now my card sits at 54c, fan at 56%, which is now ~2000RPM.
So regardless if you set your own fan curve, the vbios still increases RPM by about 400.
If you were satisfied with your custom curve and temps (and namely the noise), I would recommend reducing your fan RPMs slightly, if you want to maintain the temps/noise you had before the update.
 
Then again, I still don't hear the ACX fans at all until I set them to about 70%.
2016/11/06 08:25:47
GFAFS
gahelm
Gotta admit, that is funny.  


 
It is indeed
2016/11/06 08:27:31
owagpus
DeathAngel74
they are sending 5W/mK out with pads.

So when my thermal pads arrive, should I use that, or the Arctic MX4 (8.5W/mK) I already have? A Different thermal compound doesn't affect warranty?

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