whitezero

Sajin
There are no issues. You don't need to do anything.

Everytime I read this lately, this is all I can think of:
 

Eurodancer

whitezero

Sajin
There are no issues. You don't need to do anything.

Everytime I read this lately, this is all I can think of:
 

lol so true

Guess you guys missed post #19 where Scarlet-Tech said his 1070 ftw ran at the same temps with or without pads. 

Sajin

whitezero

Sajin
There are no issues. You don't need to do anything.

Everytime I read this lately, this is all I can think of:
 

Eurodancer

whitezero

Sajin
There are no issues. You don't need to do anything.

Everytime I read this lately, this is all I can think of:

lol so true

Guess you guys missed post #19 where Scarlet-Tech said his 1070 ftw ran at the same temps with or without pads. 

I saw it, but thats one card. Still doesn't put my kind at ease. They missed this padding in all the cards, which also doesn't put my mind at ease. Ide rather have a card with padding than without. To me, that's getting my $450 money's worth.

Sajin
Guess you guys missed post #19 where Scarlet-Tech said his 1070 ftw ran at the same temps with or without pads. 

No, it's just I find it funny, the complete disregard for what's been going on, to just make the blanket statement of "there are no issues." When we have an increasing number of reports of cards bursting into flame. Perhaps related to component failure due to heat damage, perhaps not, perhaps due to faulty components. I mean, I haven't seen any reports from any other AIBs having this happen. Have you? 
 
Are most cards going to be just fine? Sure.
Is EVGA trying trying to make it right? Of course.
Could EVGA have done a bit better on the cooling design, especially compared to what seems to be every other AIB cooling the VRM? Absolutely.
 
But posting "no issues" when we can see them all around, just comes off as terribly disingenuous. 

Eurodancer
I wonder if there is any way to request a card with a pre-installed thermal pad right now. Or if you just have to wait for 2 weeks and hope it's installed.

I think a mod already said you can't. But maybe I'm just a bit confused. You can always try to message the support and see what they say.

At this point, it's beyond the benchmarks and heat tests trying to prove this or that. At this point, as a consumer, I want my product to be "whole" meaning, I want my product to have not even simply the best components, but ALL components to ensure that my product is not (even a low chance) a ticking time bomb. If it's not "whole" to me, and especially for the price I paid, then something needs to be done to put the consumers mind at ease.

I just got off the phone a rep again. He suggests the following:

1. Order the thermal pads and install myself, or RMA my product and they will install.
OR
2. Reorder again in about 3 weeks and call to make sure they are shipping all products with thermal pads.

They are not sending them out right now. All orders cannot be guaranteed to be sent with thermal pads, until after their announcement/notice. Most likely he said 2-3 weeks.

#1 seem like more back and forth. I will return my product to my retailer in 2.5 weeks, still under the 30 day return.

whitezero

Sajin
Guess you guys missed post #19 where Scarlet-Tech said his 1070 ftw ran at the same temps with or without pads. 

No, it's just I find it funny, the complete disregard for what's been going on, to just make the blanket statement of "there are no issues." When we have an increasing number of reports of cards bursting into flame. Perhaps related to component failure due to heat damage, perhaps not, perhaps due to faulty components. I mean, I haven't seen any reports from any other AIBs having this happen. Have you? 

EVGA cards are the most purchased video cards on newegg. You're gonna see some failures here and there just because of that reason alone. Just because you get a few failures here and there doesn't mean the whole line is faulty.

Sajin

whitezero

Sajin
Guess you guys missed post #19 where Scarlet-Tech said his 1070 ftw ran at the same temps with or without pads. 

No, it's just I find it funny, the complete disregard for what's been going on, to just make the blanket statement of "there are no issues." When we have an increasing number of reports of cards bursting into flame. Perhaps related to component failure due to heat damage, perhaps not, perhaps due to faulty components. I mean, I haven't seen any reports from any other AIBs having this happen. Have you? 

EVGA cards are the most purchased video cards on newegg. You're gonna see some failures here and there just because of that reason alone. Just because you get a few failures here and there doesn't mean the whole line is faulty.

And I really want to believe that is all that is going on here. And of course a few instances does not mean the whole is having an issue. But the lack of mass failure (a la the Samsung Note 7) does not equal "no issues" either, lets me honest. 
 
If we're just talking number of units out there, EVGA is definitely on top, but there are plenty of other cards out there as well. Heres just a quick sample I took from NewEgg based on the number of reviews per vendor for all the 1070's on the site currently for sale:
 
EVGA = 577
MSI = 373
Gigabyte = 302
Asus = 148
ZOTAC = 100
 
So we've got lots of other cards out there. And naturally, the sum total of all the other brands eclipses that of EVGA. But again, we're only seeing reports from EVGA owners having such catastrophic failures. We don't know if the failures are actually related to runaway thermals in the power delivery area, but the issues do coincide, so it must be considered. 
 
I just think it's best for EVGA to be candid with their customers.

Scarlet-Tech
My fans run at 50% (slave bios, 1070 ftw) and my vrm do not go above 50c according to the IR heat gun I own. (it's cheap, but has been very accurate on other items I have used it to check.)

I added extra thermal pads right where evga suggested, and notice no change on backplate temp, core temp, or VRM section. It all still runs relatively cool under a normal load, fan set to automatic and running at 50%.

If people stop running fans at 30% and hoping for a silent system, the air may move through the fins of the cooler and cool the heatspreader as well.

Thats not really a fair criticism of people is it. If they bought the better model hoping the bigger fans would mean it was quieter they shouldnt have to turn up the fans.

EhCanadian
Thats not really a fair criticism of people is it. If they bought the better model hoping the bigger fans would mean it was quieter they shouldnt have to turn up the fans.

 
yes.. it 100% is fair criticism.  Air movement is required to move heat away from components.  If you refuse to turn the fans up then you refuse to move the heat away.  
 
The 700 series and 900 series cards had higher fan speeds, and they never overheated. They even utilized the same style heat spreader on the FTW and Classified cards.  Everyone wanted quiet systems, so the fan speed was lowered and suddenly the heat became a problem.  I see a common link.