2016/11/06 18:46:09
pat39576
DSP1
SirMoh
DSP1
When you purchased the card you didn't know it would run silent because as you stated silence is subjective. How did you know it was going to be silent for you? You didn't. And even after the fix (vbios update) it still may remain silent for others, comparatively and relatively speaking so therefore it is not false advertising. Based on your hypothetical.
If you prefer to not get involved with OnSemi that is fine. Speaking for myself, as someone who has worked in the manufacturing industry in the auto parts field, it was understood that our customers were not only Ford or Mercedes Benz but ultimately we were responsible for the satisfaction of the end user. Because the courts would ultimately hold us responsible should there be a defect in the parts we supplied that might cause injury or death. 


I read plenty of reviews and watched videos showing the card at load, to me that was satisfactory. If it wasn't, I had the option of sending the card back to the retailer. Having purchased it and run the card extensively for a few weeks before these issues surfaced, I was happy. To me, this is false advertising, it doesn't matter whether it's hypothetical or not, you can't say a product is silent and then make it louder, and just because you can't tell a difference, doesn't mean others will. This thread suggests the card now runs 10dB louder. I purchased a product knowing it would run silent, and now it's not. 
 
Your similarity with the auto field is a reach.




lol
Umm, no, that is how responsibility is determined. You need to follow the trail until you find the source.
 
Enjoy the rest of your evening. 


About the sound levels, my card runs at high fan speeds and I hardly notice it when it is in the case.
2016/11/06 18:52:28
xrav22
If my card is silent and runs bf1 at 77C on ultra everything imagine how good it will be with vram pads touching and the vrms ect touching and some new silver thermal paste? Should be pretty stout. vram default are 1.0 mm some say we need 1.5mm I shall see. Mabey these are included?
2016/11/06 21:03:33
Bar81
DSP1
Bar81
DSP1
That is because no one seems to understand what the words 'optional' and 'need' mean in this context.
One course of action does not imply the other.
In other words, the fix is optional, you have a choice to do it or not, but the fact that they are now including the fix does not then make it mandatory or even necessary.


Does it hurt to twist yourself into that pretzel of "logic" ?

It's not optional if they're including it on the cards. Last time I checked no manufacturer spends extra money on "optional" features that aren't necessary - that's because it drives up cost and hurts profitability.

This is a mess and insulting people's intelligence isn't the way to fix it.



No, your assumptions are wrong.
Logically, one action does not imply necessity in the other.
They could be doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. It may not be the most profitable solution from a business perspective in the immediate sense but from a long term point of view it may turn out to be quite profitable.
And the people that are all butthurt, flailing away making themselves look foolish, and quite frankly it is pathetic, need to grow up.
Therefore, it is your logic that is flawed, basically because you do not understand the meanings of the words being used.


Keep digging that hole. You're now as ridiculous as that guy GHAFS is on the other side of the coin. Your denial, petty insults and downplaying of what is obvious to everyone (but you apparently) has made clear that you have zero credibility at this point and can be safely ignored.
2016/11/07 01:50:45
77albatross77
As I have to disassemble my GTX 1070 FTW Dt anyway waiting for thermalpads to arrive from EVGA, here two pics.
No comments, simply this: I will never buy EVGA again, despite their renowned customer-support.

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2016/11/07 02:32:32
acxcoolerssuck
77albatross77
As I have to disassemble my GTX 1070 FTW Dt anyway waiting for thermalpads to arrive from EVGA, here two pics.
No comments, simply this: I will never buy EVGA again, despite their renowned customer-support.



your case matches those ir images' results, maybe thats why the vrams chips near vrms are getting very hot. 
2016/11/07 02:50:21
soto_st
acxcoolerssuck

your case matches those ir images' results, maybe thats why the vrams chips near vrms are getting very hot. 


That's the worst case i guess. Being near the vrms without touching the thermal pads... seems dangerous. Luckily in my card is the left bottom vram chip who has a gap.
2016/11/07 10:13:07
etienne0601
How are you guys keeping track of your orders ?
I requested the pads and received an email, stating that my request has been recorded, but that's as far as it goes ?
2016/11/07 17:06:07
fotingo
1070 SC here. Just by looking at my card in the case I can say for certain that 5/8 Vram chips are making good contact with the pads, no discernible gaps. I cant see the other 3 without opening the card. The vrm on the inside of the midplate is also making very generous contact with the pad.
 
I there are no gaps in the Vram pads, do I still need to replace them?
2016/11/07 17:40:28
EllBrad
What's the wet stuff on the memory modules? Is it dieletric grease?
2016/11/07 17:48:51
andeh19
etienne0601
How are you guys keeping track of your orders ?
I requested the pads and received an email, stating that my request has been recorded, but that's as far as it goes ?




Check this page (make sure you're signed in) at the bottom: . Mine still says Awaiting Shipment.
 
Also it would be nice to have an updated instruction guide on how to install the thermal pads for the VRAM.

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