The shilling coming from some people is almost disgusting. 
 
Reading through a couple of forums makes it clear that out of every other manufacturer EVGA has the most issues (be it coilwhine, blackscreens, smoke or fire). At this point it is fairly hard to deny this. At least they are working on it now.
 

NeroRay
The shilling coming from some people is almost disgusting. 
 
Reading through a couple of forums makes it clear that out of every other manufacturer EVGA has the most issues (be it coilwhine, blackscreens, smoke or fire). At this point it is fairly hard to deny this. At least they are working on it now.
 

Agreed. I'm no shill, just a disgruntled customer that's unhappy with the way this has been handled thus far.

SirMoh

DSP1
 
Mostly re-posts of the same one or 2 incidents. And largely unsubtantiated. People lie. People lie all the time on the internet.
Yes , it is quite unreasonable. Statistically speaking, the probabilities are remote that it will happen to them.
'Severe' is a value judgement and pejorative. And linking the Samsung issue with this one is inherently misleading and dishonest.
And again you use the term 'many'. Many compared to what? How many? Disinformation.
I have to laugh because you seemto believe that I am bringing some sort of emotional content to my posts. I assure you that you are mistaken and quite probably assigning behaviour you yourself exhibit while posting.
Again, I am and was referring to other threads on this site and a common hysterical tone of posting generally. I assure you the quotes were from this forum. And I don't need to be reminded what we were discussing, noting that you and the other poster were responsible for the derail here.

I'm sorry, but that's hyperbole. There's been plenty of people that have posted unique images and videos showing scorch marks of where there cards have caught fire. I'm not sure why you feel the need to defend this so much, maybe you are an EVGA shareholder.
The probabilities of the Galaxy Note 7 catching fire were low considering the number of units they had produced, but that didn't stop them from stopping manufacturing? It's not misleading, it was merely a comparison of an issue of similar nature, i.e. catching fire.
 
How many? Well, let's see how many I can find with a quick Google search:
 
www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/5aoj0v/evga_gtx_1080_catching_fire/
www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4vay9w/sad_day_evga_1070_sc_died_randomly/
www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/58w9ql/evga_gtx_1070_ftw_randomly_died/
www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/580b8w/welp_my_evga_1070_ftw_just_killed_itself/
www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4vv4l3/evga_gtx_1080sc_just_died_last_night/
www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4vd0zn/has_my_1070_just_died_in_less_than_24_hours/
www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4nua7a/evga_1080_just_went_kaput/
www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4uxxbg/1070_died/
www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/52y2fq/my_evga_1080_ftw_was_burned_and_smoked/
www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/56ydth/evga_gtx_1080_ftw_caught_on_fire/
 
10 separate instances of cards dying/catching fire. Disinformation? Check again.
 

Perhaps you haven't read as many of the threads that I have over the course of the last couple of weeks. 
Here and "out there". But a large number of the posts in a number of these threads here are beyond ridiculous. From fear mongering claims that the card is going to burn your house down to threats of class action lawsuits.

You are bringing emotions into your thread, you said it yourself. There's no need to refer to anything else from other threads, it has nothing to do with what was being discussed.
 
As for the derailment, that lies on you. You decided to insult others by saying they're "butthurt", etc. Not my problem.
 

Perspective. Just trying to keep things in perspective.
I am not the one engaging in hyperbole,that is projection on your part.And again I am not a shareholder nor a shill. I RMAed my  own card.
The similarity is a reach.
Unfortunately I will not be checking all those links tonight but will when I have the time. So I will reserve comment on them for now.
Yes, ok, I will admit to bringing some emotionality to the discussion, my mirth. lol 
Accurately identifying the tone accompanying the posts of some users is not a derail and certainly isn't an insult. It is merely a statement of fact. If you or anyone is insulted by that then you are far too fragile for human interaction.
 

DSP1
Accurately identifying the tone accompanying the posts of some users is not a derail and certainly isn't an insult. It is merely a statement of fact. If you or anyone is insulted by that then you are far too fragile for human interaction.

Once again, another unwarranted, baseless insult.

SirMoh

DSP1
Yes, the logic is flawed. They may not be doing it  out of the kindness of their hearts, that was just one example, of which there are probably many, that refutes bars conclusion that, if they are putting pads on now, that means that the fix can't be optional. The fix still remains optional regardless of the actions after the fact.
Your second sentence is essentially correct and establishes my point for me, thank you. 
Heat kills. Turn your fans up. Put on the pads.
And further, as I suggested to another poster in the sticky thread, perhaps it would be better if everyone took their concerns and complaints to On Semiconductor. EVGA is a victim here just like the rest of us. I would be interested to see how they are being compensated by them over this and the defective 4% of the components identified in September.
Obviously, there is a problem with the quality of their components.
 

It shouldn't remain optional for the exact reasons I stated. They are close to specifications, that suggests that the card could run hotter in certain circumstances.
 
I shouldn't have to turn up my fans, when I purchased the product, I did it knowing it would run silent. Not that I would have to "turn up my fans" because of a bad cooling design.
 
The problem lies with EVGA, not the semi conductor. It's absurd that you'd suggest I complain to On Semiconductor when I purchased the product from EVGA. When a car breaks down, you don't contact the individual manufacturer of a component to fix / replace the part, you contact the vehicle manufacturer. Even if the semi conductor provided faulty components, EVGA are responsible for providing replacement, as the transaction was between me and EVGA, not me and the semi conductor.

What should or shouldn't happen is irrelevant. THAT is merely your opinion and in no way is pertinent to the critique of the logic or the argument per se.
Silent is subjective. And what you should do is determined on your usage. If you use the card in such a manner that it needs  to have the fans attuned to  achieve sufficient cooling to ensure the card performs as it was intended then that is what you need to do, whether you believe you should or not.
And EVGA has handled  the situation admirably considering the alternatives provided by some of the other manufacturers of computer hardware. I don't think I need to provide you with the anecdotals to confirm this. Could it have been done better? Hard to say considering the logistics involved but in my estimation it has been efficacious and satisfactory. So if you aren't or don't feel the need to sendOnSemi an email questioning their product that is up to you, but I believe EVGA is probably doin g that on your behalf.

DSP1
 
Silent is subjective. And what you should do is determined on your usage. If you use the card in such a manner that it needs  to have the fans attuned to  achieve sufficient cooling to ensure the card performs as it was intended then that is what you need to do, whether you believe you should or not.
And EVGA has handled  the situation admirably considering the alternatives provided by some of the other manufacturers of computer hardware. I don't think I need to provide you with the anecdotals to confirm this. Could it have been done better? Hard to say considering the logistics involved but in my estimation it has been efficacious and satisfactory. So if you aren't or don't feel the need to sendOnSemi an email questioning their product that is up to you, but I believe EVGA is probably doin g that on your behalf.

Yes, silence is subjective, but some people are more sensitive to it than others, like myself. When I purchased the card, it was silent, and now it is not. The way I use the card has not changed, thus, this would class as false advertisement. It's not about believing whether I should, it's about the fact that I purchased the card knowing it would run silent, and now it doesn't. Period.
Once again, I have absolutely no business relationship with the semi conductor. They have nothing to do with me. Their issues lie with EVGA, not the end-user. Even if one of their components is on the card, they will not be able to provide me with warranty support, simply because they never sold me anything.
 
Whether or not you think it was satisfactory or not is irrelevant, in your own words: "THAT is merely your opinion and in no way is pertinent to the critique of the logic or the argument per se."

SirMoh

DSP1
 
Silent is subjective. And what you should do is determined on your usage. If you use the card in such a manner that it needs  to have the fans attuned to  achieve sufficient cooling to ensure the card performs as it was intended then that is what you need to do, whether you believe you should or not.
And EVGA has handled  the situation admirably considering the alternatives provided by some of the other manufacturers of computer hardware. I don't think I need to provide you with the anecdotals to confirm this. Could it have been done better? Hard to say considering the logistics involved but in my estimation it has been efficacious and satisfactory. So if you aren't or don't feel the need to sendOnSemi an email questioning their product that is up to you, but I believe EVGA is probably doin g that on your behalf.

Yes, silence is subjective, but some people are more sensitive to it than others, like myself. When I purchased the card, it was silent, and now it is not. The way I use the card has not changed, thus, this would class as false advertisement. It's not about believing whether I should, it's about the fact that I purchased the card knowing it would run silent, and now it doesn't. Period.
Once again, I have absolutely no business relationship with the semi conductor. They have nothing to do with me. Their issues lie with EVGA, not the end-user. Even if one of their components is on the card, they will not be able to provide me with warranty support, simply because they never sold me anything.

When you purchased the card you didn't know it would run silent because as you stated silence is subjective. How did you know it was going to be silent for you? You didn't. And even after the fix (vbios update) it still may remain silent for others, comparatively and relatively speaking so therefore it is not false advertising. Based on your hypothetical.
If you prefer to not get involved with OnSemi that is fine. Speaking for myself, as someone who has worked in the manufacturing industry in the auto parts field, it was understood that our customers were not only Ford or Mercedes Benz but ultimately we were responsible for the satisfaction of the end user. Because the courts would ultimately hold us responsible should there be a defect in the parts we supplied that might cause injury or death. 

DSP1
When you purchased the card you didn't know it would run silent because as you stated silence is subjective. How did you know it was going to be silent for you? You didn't. And even after the fix (vbios update) it still may remain silent for others, comparatively and relatively speaking so therefore it is not false advertising. Based on your hypothetical.
If you prefer to not get involved with OnSemi that is fine. Speaking for myself, as someone who has worked in the manufacturing industry in the auto parts field, it was understood that our customers were not only Ford or Mercedes Benz but ultimately we were responsible for the satisfaction of the end user. Because the courts would ultimately hold us responsible should there be a defect in the parts we supplied that might cause injury or death. 

I read plenty of reviews and watched videos showing the card at load, to me that was satisfactory. If it wasn't, I had the option of sending the card back to the retailer. Having purchased it and run the card extensively for a few weeks before these issues surfaced, I was happy. To me, this is false advertising, it doesn't matter whether it's hypothetical or not, you can't say a product is silent and then make it louder, and just because you can't tell a difference, doesn't mean others will. This thread suggests the card now runs 10dB louder. I purchased a product knowing it would run silent, and now it's not. 
 
Your similarity with the auto field is a reach.

I feel safe with my card the way it came, although I have an aggressive fan curve on it, in fact I run my card when I go to work, although not usually under a heavy load when I am not there. That said, I still requested the pads but don't plan to flash the bios as it does just what my fan curve already does. This entire situation in my mind was blown out of proportion by a handful of extreme situations.

SirMoh

DSP1
When you purchased the card you didn't know it would run silent because as you stated silence is subjective. How did you know it was going to be silent for you? You didn't. And even after the fix (vbios update) it still may remain silent for others, comparatively and relatively speaking so therefore it is not false advertising. Based on your hypothetical.
If you prefer to not get involved with OnSemi that is fine. Speaking for myself, as someone who has worked in the manufacturing industry in the auto parts field, it was understood that our customers were not only Ford or Mercedes Benz but ultimately we were responsible for the satisfaction of the end user. Because the courts would ultimately hold us responsible should there be a defect in the parts we supplied that might cause injury or death. 

I read plenty of reviews and watched videos showing the card at load, to me that was satisfactory. If it wasn't, I had the option of sending the card back to the retailer. Having purchased it and run the card extensively for a few weeks before these issues surfaced, I was happy. To me, this is false advertising, it doesn't matter whether it's hypothetical or not, you can't say a product is silent and then make it louder, and just because you can't tell a difference, doesn't mean others will. This thread suggests the card now runs 10dB louder. I purchased a product knowing it would run silent, and now it's not. 
 
Your similarity with the auto field is a reach.

lol
Umm, no, that is how responsibility is determined. You need to follow the trail until you find the source.
 
Enjoy the rest of your evening.