DSP1

bcavnaugh
Not taking away from this Tread but will EVGA sale this for Non-FTW Cards?
The vRam Copper Plate shown in this Image that is. Or is a V2 Hybrid Coming out?
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I am wondering whether to install that copper plate at all.
Have you seen this? Apparently, in their comparison they attribute higher Core temps to the fact that this plate inhibits Core cooling, and that at idle the difference between the Seahawk and the FTW Hybrid is ~11C. Furthermore they ask why EVGA didn't extend the copper plate to include the mosfets that are now the subject of heated (hehhe) debate.
 
Also watch this vid explaining the PCB, quite interesting.
 
ETA Damn! I can't post links but the vids are on gamersnexus 1. 
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW PCB & Overclocking Analysis
 
2.
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Hybrid Review vs. MSI Sea Hawk X

So what is point here?
I am not moving over to MSI, I do not buy any MSI Products anymore.
"Furthermore they ask why" Who are They?
If you want the more Cooling then move over to the Hydro Cooper.

bcavnaugh

DSP1

bcavnaugh
Not taking away from this Tread but will EVGA sale this for Non-FTW Cards?
The vRam Copper Plate shown in this Image that is. Or is a V2 Hybrid Coming out?
Image Removed

I am wondering whether to install that copper plate at all.
Have you seen this? Apparently, in their comparison they attribute higher Core temps to the fact that this plate inhibits Core cooling, and that at idle the difference between the Seahawk and the FTW Hybrid is ~11C. Furthermore they ask why EVGA didn't extend the copper plate to include the mosfets that are now the subject of heated (hehhe) debate.
 
Also watch this vid explaining the PCB, quite interesting.
 
ETA Damn! I can't post links but the vids are on gamersnexus 1. 
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW PCB & Overclocking Analysis
 
2.
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Hybrid Review vs. MSI Sea Hawk X

So what is point here?
I am not moving over to MSI, I do not buy any MSI Products anymore.
"Furthermore they ask why" Who are They?
If you want the more Cooling then move over to the Hydro Cooper.
Heat and Temperatures issue are mostly caused by users Overclocking to high.
Some users are buying low end graphics cards and trying to make them higher end cards.

The point is that maybe that copper plate does not decrease temps effectively. Instead making the Kit less effective cooling the gpu.
 
"They" refers to the people at gamersnexus doing the review and analysis.
 
And of course if you want the best cooling solution then move to WB but that would mean lots more money wouldn't it. :)
 
And this thread and the kit are not about low end graphics cards is it.
 
I only point all this out for people to consider. You may do as you please with the info I provided.

DSP1
 
I am wondering whether to install that copper plate at all.
Have you seen this? Apparently, in their comparison they attribute higher Core temps to the fact that this plate inhibits Core cooling, and that at idle the difference between the Seahawk and the FTW Hybrid is ~11C. Furthermore they ask why EVGA didn't extend the copper plate to include the mosfets that are now the subject of heated (hehhe) debate.
 
 
Also watch this vid explaining the PCB, quite interesting.
 
ETA Damn! I can't post links but the vids are on gamersnexus 1. 
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW PCB & Overclocking Analysis
 
2.
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Hybrid Review vs. MSI Sea Hawk X

If you don't install the copper plate, nothing is going to be cooling your VRAM and then they will be the subject of heated debate too!

DSP1

This Text was removed;
[Heat and Temperatures issue are mostly caused by users Overclocking to high.
Some users are buying low end graphics cards and trying to make them higher end cards.]
Text was from a PM. It was about the GTX 1060 and you can guess the rest.

stevenli1966

DSP1
 
I am wondering whether to install that copper plate at all.
Have you seen this? Apparently, in their comparison they attribute higher Core temps to the fact that this plate inhibits Core cooling, and that at idle the difference between the Seahawk and the FTW Hybrid is ~11C. Furthermore they ask why EVGA didn't extend the copper plate to include the mosfets that are now the subject of heated (hehhe) debate.
 
 
Also watch this vid explaining the PCB, quite interesting.
 
ETA Damn! I can't post links but the vids are on gamersnexus 1. 
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW PCB & Overclocking Analysis
 
2.
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Hybrid Review vs. MSI Sea Hawk X

If you don't install the copper plate, nothing is going to be cooling your VRAM and then they will be the subject of heated debate too!

From what I can gather no other manufacturer uses the copper plate method relying solely on thermal pads for those modules.
The gamersnexus article suggests that is why the Seahawk temps are cooler as there is less area to be cooled without the copper plate.
Further, the EVGA solution for the fan on the card with the Hybrid unit pulls  rather than pushes, which was also noted in the article.
 
ETA The FTW Gaming heat sink unit does not cover those areas either. There are just thermal pads between the VRAM and the plate.
 

 
ETA PS My assumption is that the mid plate pictured above is going to be replaced with installation. However, if it is not then the copper plate would serve to cover the VRAM modules of which you speak. Unless a newly designed midplate is shipped with a larger machined cutout exposing the VRAM  modules. Perhaps better to just leave that mid plate off all together and let the fan blow on the components directly?

i really want that vrm heatsink, please sell it to me if you dont use it.

so i was watching the teamevga video on how to install the 980ti hybrid cooler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepbdKc6m_s
 
i know the 1080ftw hybrid installation is not the same.
 
my questions is towards the end of the video he recommends placing the radiator above the video card.
 
is that still the case with the 1080ftw hybrid and does it really make any difference? 
 
i am asking because i've seen (on google) just as many installed above the card as installed below the card.
 
also, by above does he mean the entire radiator or just the intake/outtake of the radiator.
 
thanks in advance.

Yes, it is still the case. You always want the radiator above the pump since bubbles float to the top. If the pump is at the top, it will trap air bubbles and burn the pump out.

I doubt they will release a version with the vram player for regular 10 series cards. The FTW hybrid cooler has the plate so the kit has it too.
I do wonder how long we have to order these? I need like 8 months to build my evga bucks up to afford one. Do these generally stay available that long?

Scarlet-Tech
Yes, it is still the case. You always want the radiator above the pump since bubbles float to the top. If the pump is at the top, it will trap air bubbles and burn the pump out.

thanks scarlet, that makes total sense.