2016/10/28 06:43:07
mannitu78
wils07
first 1080 I had was a palit jet stream that I returned to get the 1080ftw, then I returned that because of the black screen fan issue and got my classified....... just wish I kept the palit as it ran cooler and was still boosting to the same clocks as both my evga cards do . Also it dose not suffer from any of the problems were seeing on here..........




so whats wrong with the Classy? There should be no problems with it, i dont think theres anything running out of specs. Anything annoying about the cards? I would never change that for a Palit. On the other hand the Classy is really made for aftermarket cooling, you should put a "real" cooler on it. And what about the Classified-Controller, does this software still work with the new GDDRX-memory? You can outperform pretty much all other 980s by just running the memory with 4200-4300mhz, thx to the overvoltage.option. You dont have that on other 980s. Up to 1,8 Volts. But i dont think i would enjoy that with the custom cooler, especially not this generation^^
2016/10/28 07:01:41
acxcoolerssuck
mannitu78
wils07
first 1080 I had was a palit jet stream that I returned to get the 1080ftw, then I returned that because of the black screen fan issue and got my classified....... just wish I kept the palit as it ran cooler and was still boosting to the same clocks as both my evga cards do . Also it dose not suffer from any of the problems were seeing on here..........




so whats wrong with the Classy? There should be no problems with it, i dont think theres anything running out of specs. Anything annoying about the cards? I would never change that for a Palit. On the other hand the Classy is really made for aftermarket cooling, you should put a "real" cooler on it. And what about the Classified-Controller, does this software still work with the new GDDRX-memory? You can outperform pretty much all other 980s by just running the memory with 4200-4300mhz, thx to the overvoltage.option. You dont have that on other 980s. Up to 1,8 Volts. But i dont think i would enjoy that with the custom cooler, especially not this generation^^


classified has different mosfets. but the same cooling method: the cooling plate. 
we all know the cooling plate performance. it wont kill your card if you dont run furmark 24/7. during gaming like bf1 which is a very demanding game, vrm temp is fine too.
 
but, higher vrm temp affects the capability of the vrm. if cooling plate is removed, you should find that gpu temp will be hotter and power draw will be lower.
 
back plate cant improve cooling except thermal pads are applied for spreading the heat from the vrm to the metal back plate. 
 
 
2016/10/28 09:01:09
libneon
2016/10/28 09:10:32
dzernesto
libneon
another casualty: https://www.reddit.com/r/...rip_evga_ftw_gtx_1070/




dang, Well, components don't explode under heat. This is other issue, But still an issue.
2016/10/28 09:12:54
libneon
dzernesto
libneon
another casualty: https://www.reddit.com/r/...rip_evga_ftw_gtx_1070/




dang, Well, components don't explode under heat. This is other issue, But still an issue.




That is right in the hotspot area and my card died the same way. Heat can cause thermal runaway causing components to operate out of spec and can indeed cause components to explode- it's not purely the heat but the effects of the heat on the function of the components.
2016/10/28 10:20:08
Chloestick
Has EVGA released a guide / walk through or video on how to apply the thermal pads to the card? I thought it was supposed to be done by the end of the week?
2016/10/28 11:00:08
shannonjpower
Chloestick
Has EVGA released a guide / walk through or video on how to apply the thermal pads to the card? I thought it was supposed to be done by the end of the week?

Next week for the instructions.
 
Each card so far that's exploded have had the failures in roughly the same area. Could just be a bad coincidence but I'd say the heat is effecting components in the general vicinity causing premature failure. A bit worrisome considering we are only a few months into the release.
 
Having 2 1070's FTW's I'm extremely disappointed in my purchases at this stage. First it was the Micron issue (granted it was an NVIDIA problem) now this all within the space of a few weeks. And all I've been offered for it is a $2 thermal pad after spending $1400AUD. I'm not after any sort of compensation don't get me wrong, it's a just a bitter pill to swallow considering the money spent and now the onus is on us as a consumer to fix their errors.
 
EVGA haven't even mentioned anything regarding warranty and physical damage caused by people removing the cooler to install the thermal pads. Another reason why I'm reluctant to remove the coolers on my cards. I mean a simple slip of a screwdriver etc means $650 down the drain. Nor have they provided an RMA option for those who either can't or are reluctant to perform the changes themselves.
 
Another annoying factor is if I choose not to do the mod and my card(s) die, I'm forced to pay for shipping back to Taiwan from Australia. Might not be an issue for some but when you're talking upwards of $70 to send a parcel with tracking and insurance to protect against loss/damage it's rather expensive.
 
Also for those saying the thermal mod is optional when you sit back and think about it it's really not. I very much doubt EVGA would take the time and money to send out thermal pads to so many users if it was simply an optional fix. They also wouldn't be including the thermal pads on new cards rolling off the factory line if it wasn't necessary. The only real option you have is do the mod or take the chance your card doesn't die an early death due to the lack of VRM cooling.
 
Whilst I'm thankful EVGA is on the ball and assisting it's customers, I'm just a little deflated and feeling let down at the option given to us.
2016/10/28 12:10:48
bissagars
libneon
dzernesto
libneon
another casualty: https://www.reddit.com/r/...rip_evga_ftw_gtx_1070/




dang, Well, components don't explode under heat. This is other issue, But still an issue.




That is right in the hotspot area and my card died the same way. Heat can cause thermal runaway causing components to operate out of spec and can indeed cause components to explode- it's not purely the heat but the effects of the heat on the function of the components.




IF EVGA is saying this cards are running within SPEC, so what are all these reports about explodes? this is the third one I see, and exactly the same spot, could it be something else causing that other than "missing thermal pad" issue? could it be a batch batch with different/bad IC's or whatever have been shipped? There is a lot of mixed issues that all started to happen at same time started from micron issue and ended with thermal pad issue and even EVGA stated that there is some bad IC have been used in their GTX 1080 FTW cards (small numbers) but you can see to many issues are showing and we don't know what is the real cause?
http://forums.evga.com/GTX-1080-FTW-Black-screen-fans-spin-up-to-100-m2530081-p8.aspx#2541819
https://www.reddit.com/r/...or_those_experiencing/
https://www.reddit.com/r/...80_ftw_caught_on_fire/
https://www.reddit.com/r/...d_over_at_the/d8rky7q/
https://www.reddit.com/r/...tw_just_killed_itself/
2016/10/28 12:53:53
bitxan
I guess with the thermal pads, EVGA also sent a thermal putty quality to replace the gpu when opened, right?
2016/10/28 13:00:52
DSP1
Important post on GamersNexus today.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2661-evga-mosfet-failure-possible-from-thermal-runaway-scenario
 
Must read!!
EVGA promising to replace cards.

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