2016/10/26 22:15:35
Legacy-ZA
Is there any way I can update the address I would like the thermal pads to be sent to?
2016/10/26 23:12:12
shannonjpower
ksgnow2010
If you read the page where you requested the pads, EVGA said that they were not required...but optional.
 
Optional means you don't need them to have your card work properly.

 
Well simply because EVGA state it's optional doesn't really mean it is. Sure they might be in a controlled test environment with a moderate ambient temp but that's hardly reflecting real world conditions.
 
Let's take a look at the results from the TomsHwardware 1080 review, keep in mind the results were taken with an ambient temp of 22°C (71°F). I'm not even going to start on the 1060's results which are worse!
 
Metro Last Light is topping 97°c (206.6°F) on the VRM which is definitely on the hot side but within specs.
Now take a look at the memory, 95°c (203°F) which is right on the thermal specifications limit and that's before any overclocking.
 
What do you think is going to happen when ambient temps exceed 22°C (71°F)? I'm sure a lot of users like myself live in countries where it's normal to see temperatures upwards of 30°C (86°F), 35°C (95°F) for extended periods of time. I can guarantee without a doubt the memory will be operating well above it's thermal specifications and potentially the VRM's. Sure if you live in an environment with a sub 22°C ambient environment you could easily class the thermal pads as being optional, but face it that's hardly the case for a lot of users.
 
These limits and specifications are set for a reason and operating above them is a no no and asking for prematurely dying components.
 
I'm not sure how EVGA or anyone else can consider them as being optional when tests show components are right on their thermal limits (and exceeding if you take into furmark results) with a relatively moderate ambient temp.
2016/10/26 23:39:45
seahawkgfx
It is not certain that higher ambient temperature lead to higher temperatures at the VRAM modules, simply because higher ambient temperature will also make the fans spin faster, which increases the airflow and helps cool the plate covering the VRMs and the VRAM. The cooling plate was good enough for the 970/980 (which draw about the same power) but the ACX2.0 fans spun faster. The ACX 3.0 GPU Cooler is stronger, but this means the fans spin slower which means the cooling area for the VRMs should have been bigger. (fins or a a connection to baseplate, GPU cooler)
2016/10/26 23:46:45
NucleusX
lol, and what about all those that might be unknowingly running their cards with gaps between the memory and plate ready to cause
irreversible damage from day 1. Wonder just how many cards where sent out in that state alone. A few weak spots materializing here.
2016/10/26 23:48:06
NetQvist
Just a confirmation I tested after getting my MSI 1080 Gaming Z.
 
If I play very cpu limited games (4x instances of Diablo 3 multiboxing) or frame limit a game like Mad Max to 60 the card starts hovering around 60 degrees. This means the gpu fans on stock don't really start spinning more than once per minute at max. I'm pretty sure this is quite damaging to a thermal design that EVGA uses since the VRM is basically uncooled and barely ever receives any airflow.
 
Guess it's a curse of running Noctua industrials as front back case fans....
2016/10/27 00:19:50
shannonjpower
seahawkgfx
It is not certain that higher ambient temperature lead to higher temperatures at the VRAM modules, simply because higher ambient temperature will also make the fans spin faster, which increases the airflow and helps cool the plate covering the VRMs and the VRAM. The cooling plate was good enough for the 970/980 (which draw about the same power) but the ACX2.0 fans spun faster. The ACX 3.0 GPU Cooler is stronger, but this means the fans spin slower which means the cooling area for the VRMs should have been bigger. (fins or a a connection to baseplate, GPU cooler)




Of course higher ambient temps will cause higher temps on the VRM's etc. Why do you think they list the ambient temp to begin with? Sure the fans might be moving more CFM but the ambient temp is higher to begin with making the cooling less efficient.
2016/10/27 00:49:45
seahawkgfx
shannonjpower
seahawkgfx
It is not certain that higher ambient temperature lead to higher temperatures at the VRAM modules, simply because higher ambient temperature will also make the fans spin faster, which increases the airflow and helps cool the plate covering the VRMs and the VRAM. The cooling plate was good enough for the 970/980 (which draw about the same power) but the ACX2.0 fans spun faster. The ACX 3.0 GPU Cooler is stronger, but this means the fans spin slower which means the cooling area for the VRMs should have been bigger. (fins or a a connection to baseplate, GPU cooler)




Of course higher ambient temps will cause higher temps on the VRM's etc. Why do you think they list the ambient temp to begin with? Sure the fans might be moving more CFM but the ambient temp is higher to begin with making the cooling less efficient.




Cooling power is not only influenced by Delta T (DT) but also by the surface area of the cooling area and by the airflow.
 
For example if I want to cool 225W to 70°C at 20°C and at 30°C ambient, the required airflow only increases by about 33% although the ambient temperature increased by 50%.
2016/10/27 03:54:47
nika006
Where can I order those pads with instructions?
 
If EVGA asks shipping fee, I'm done. Gonna sell my FTW and buy a Palit.
 
It's like Galaxy Note 7, 5 out of 1000 explodes, same here. It gets overheated, in some cases it burns the card.
 
The chance is not high ofcourse, but it's still there and it shouldn't happen at all in the first place. 
 
EVGA should make a separate thermal pads page with the order link.
2016/10/27 03:58:14
bairanbokkeri
nika006
Where can I order those pads with instructions?
 
If EVGA asks shipping fee, I'm done. Gonna sell my FTW and buy a Palit.
 
It's like Galaxy Note 7, 5 out of 1000 explodes, same here. It gets overheated, in some cases it burns the card.
 
The chance is not high ofcourse, but it's still there and it shouldn't happen at all in the first place. 
 
EVGA should make a separate thermal pads page with the order link.



There is a page dedicated for pads.

Edit; oh right, cant post links. 
2016/10/27 03:59:42
shannonjpower
Yeah same. Just google 'evga thermal pad order' and it's the 1st link or there is a link on page 6 of the thread.
 
EVGA_JacobF
Here is where you can request the thermal pads:
 

 


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