NucleusX

libneon
I'm wondering if the 100% fan/black screen issue is being caused by components near the hotspot/VRM being damaged but not outright failing. On my 1070 the resistors in that area caught fire, but maybe on some cards they are damaged without obvious outward damage. Because once people start having the issue it seems to only get worse. If it was just cooling then that wouldn't happen, it seems to point to the fact that some has changed with the card. This is pure speculation but the problem seems to be affecting more than a few people. Of the burnt cards I've seen on here and reddit and a few hardware sites it's always been the hotspot VRM area where the damage appeared.

 
This article here is suggesting somewhere along those lines as a secondary effect. Also, The VRM's are rated higher than
the memory modules, so even if the VRM's are operating within their spec, the heat generated by them can effect surrounding
components with a lower temp rating, such as the memory modules, which appears to be the origin of the black screens.
Initially, it was thought that the Micron memory issue was at fault, but the bad reports still came in after the bios update.
 
http://www.guru3d.com/new...verheating-issues.html  

Damn it EVGA really let us down.

HeavyHemi

Leonardohlb

goa48

Poliacido
iirc when you have more phases and so more vrms those should be cooler than having less power phases like the reference pcb
so i don't understand why the ftw cards are so hot... maybe it is really because they don't have enough cooling on those parts

It does have more phases, but it is not a 180W card like the reference.

Zotac has TDP of 300W msi next 300w which justifies the FTW have 215W?

TDP is not power consumption. TDP is the amount of thermal energy the cooling solution is designed to dissipate.

Their response was useless without any sense you say such a thing, i tested the bios zotac and msi in my EVGA, i say that the clock was much more stable without wavering, and consumption was close to 280w test on OCCT.

No problem the shop will make the change again my card by MSI or HOF will still decide, they told me they will stop ordering EVGA models. Bye!

Leonardohlb

HeavyHemi

Leonardohlb

goa48

Poliacido
iirc when you have more phases and so more vrms those should be cooler than having less power phases like the reference pcb
so i don't understand why the ftw cards are so hot... maybe it is really because they don't have enough cooling on those parts

It does have more phases, but it is not a 180W card like the reference.

Zotac has TDP of 300W msi next 300w which justifies the FTW have 215W?

TDP is not power consumption. TDP is the amount of thermal energy the cooling solution is designed to dissipate.

Their response was useless without any sense you say such a thing, i tested the bios zotac and msi in my EVGA, i say that the clock was much more stable without wavering, and consumption was close to 280w test on OCCT.

Sure other than being right.  That they could draw 280 watts on those cards is a different thing from your TDP claim. I was just pointing out your incorrect usage is all.  EVGA rates the power draw at 215 watts stock. Those are two different things as power draw or usage is not the same as TDP.

HeavyHemi

Leonardohlb

HeavyHemi

Leonardohlb

goa48

Poliacido
iirc when you have more phases and so more vrms those should be cooler than having less power phases like the reference pcb
so i don't understand why the ftw cards are so hot... maybe it is really because they don't have enough cooling on those parts

It does have more phases, but it is not a 180W card like the reference.

Zotac has TDP of 300W msi next 300w which justifies the FTW have 215W?

TDP is not power consumption. TDP is the amount of thermal energy the cooling solution is designed to dissipate.

Their response was useless without any sense you say such a thing, i tested the bios zotac and msi in my EVGA, i say that the clock was much more stable without wavering, and consumption was close to 280w test on OCCT.

Sure other than being right.  That they could draw 280 watts on those cards is a different thing from your TDP claim. I was just pointing out your incorrect usage is all.  EVGA rates the power draw at 215 watts stock. Those are two different things as power draw or usage is not the same as TDP.

Understand how you want, in any way the board has many limitations, this is what matters in an enthusiast model, these heating problems and limiting consumption, power, voltage, clock, watts none of this should be considered in this model enthusiast.

Is it possible for EVGA to upload the instructions and thermal pad specs (thickness etc) so those already with spare pads or who want to purchase their own can do the mod?
 
Would save time and money on EVGA's side and allow experienced users to go ahead with the mod without waiting weeks (I'm in Australia so it's roughly 2+ weeks wait) for shipping.

shannonjpower
Is it possible for EVGA to upload the instructions and thermal pad specs (thickness etc) so those already with spare pads or who want to purchase their own can do the mod?
 
Would save time and money on EVGA's side and allow experienced users to go ahead with the mod without waiting weeks (I'm in Australia so it's roughly 2+ weeks wait) for shipping.

 
+1. A clear set of instructions would be nice for most users. Enthusiasts probably don't even care and tackling it on their own like a boss.

NucleusX

shannonjpower
Is it possible for EVGA to upload the instructions and thermal pad specs (thickness etc) so those already with spare pads or who want to purchase their own can do the mod?
 Would save time and money on EVGA's side and allow experienced users to go ahead with the mod without waiting weeks (I'm in Australia so it's roughly 2+ weeks wait) for shipping.

+1. A clear set of instructions would be nice for most users. Enthusiasts probably don't even care and tackling it on their own like a boss.

+1
 
 
I contact with support and at my last email I have some questions and the answers I get was not clear than only an "automatic message".
_______________
Answer from evga
Hello,
In regards to the overheating issue, please review our statement here: www.evga.com/thermalmod/  and you may choose to request the optional thermal pads that we have made available.
_______________
To my questions
From the answer I get you said that there is no issue to the card, and I leave it as it is without thermal pads, 
also if something happened burnt, because there is no thermal pads etc. what happened next?
Then why there is so "noise" at the internet and forums around the thermal issues?
From example one of them at evga forum →forums.evga.com/badHOT-PCB-Layout-on-GTX-1070-FTW-m2565921-p6.aspx
An other question because that no all have the technical skills to put hand at the cards or thermal pads how you suggested to your customer
this solution and if we cause a problem to the card then you replace the card? covered from warranty?
 

I think we should lay on some pressure and allow our cards to receive a redesigned cooler and get the PCB swapped. This is simply ridiculous. I have done 3 months of heavy gaming on mine already, I can imagine how that heatsink will look when I take it off, not to mention the life span that has been removed from the tortured hardware. Hell; my MSi gaming had artifacting from the get go and had to swap it out (Micron Memory) so I decided to go with EVGA because their products are highly praised, that apparently was a mistake... Now I know why they didn't give reviewers the FTW's to review at launch.
 
Seems one can't trust anyone anymore.

panaikas
I contact with support and at my last email I have some questions and the answers I get was not clear than only an "automatic message".
_______________
Answer from evga
Hello,
In regards to the overheating issue, please review our statement here: www.evga.com/thermalmod/  and you may choose to request the optional thermal pads that we have made available.
_______________
To my questions
From the answer I get you said that there is no issue to the card, and I leave it as it is without thermal pads, 
also if something happened burnt, because there is no thermal pads etc. what happened next?
Then why there is so "noise" at the internet and forums around the thermal issues?
From example one of them at evga forum →forums.evga.com/badHOT-PCB-Layout-on-GTX-1070-FTW-m2565921-p6.aspx
An other question because that no all have the technical skills to put hand at the cards or thermal pads how you suggested to your customer
this solution and if we cause a problem to the card then you replace the card? covered from warranty?

 
Give it time, i'm sure they'l produce something eventually. If not, someone on a review site or YouTube channel will document the procedure. Maybe even in a forum post.