sinned.
We have had a plug in for language the last I think 4 events it has had to be constantly tweeked because some words that we let fly were getting flagged. The only way anyone got warned manually is if they tried to skirt it. I for one would split the PTC and FEEC guys up but that got taken away. We are trying to build this back and constructive criticism is the way to go about it. Attacking over and over and pushing the limits was and is not the way to go about it. This is turning out to be the best thread EGC section has had in a very long time.

Why split people up when there are only 2-3 of them? Its hardly stacking if there isn't even a squad full.

DMIINC
Very good thread.

And you good sir are part of the reason for it. I miss so much gaming with you, beamer, rick and so many others. Those were the days

Only moved when there were 8-10 on a side never when there were 3 or 4.

EVGATech_ChristianB

Not going to lie, that was the first thing I thought of when someone posted that there's no "I" in team.

EVGATech_ChristianB

XrayMan
 
Not funny.                   

admit it, you laughed a little...even for just a millisecond 

Ok, for a millisecond.         

Instead of kicking or bans, do any EGC admins use the kill command at all?

I've kicked and banned my share of players years ago but found the kill command to be effective without it affecting the targeted players' stats. The players end up being less emotional too.

As for that ProCon Language Enforcer plugin, I used it for a week and it gave me nothing but headaches. It caused my server ranking to plummet and players bailed out of the server in droves.

EVGA can keep tweaking that plugin all they want but nothing beats using the kill or kick command yourself when some pugnacious player throws out racist vitriol in the server.

Pitfighter
Instead of kicking or bans, do any EGC admins use the kill command at all?

I've kicked and banned my share of players years ago but found the kill command to be effective without it affecting the targeted players' stats. The players end up being less emotional too.

As for that ProCon Language Enforcer plugin, I used it for a week and it gave me nothing but headaches. It caused my server ranking to plummet and players bailed out of the server in droves.

EVGA can keep tweaking that plugin all they want but nothing beats using the kill or kick command yourself when some pugnacious player throws out racist vitriol in the server.

But there can't be an Admin in the server at all times. That would be virtually impossible.

XrayMan

Pitfighter
Instead of kicking or bans, do any EGC admins use the kill command at all?

I've kicked and banned my share of players years ago but found the kill command to be effective without it affecting the targeted players' stats. The players end up being less emotional too.

As for that ProCon Language Enforcer plugin, I used it for a week and it gave me nothing but headaches. It caused my server ranking to plummet and players bailed out of the server in droves.

EVGA can keep tweaking that plugin all they want but nothing beats using the kill or kick command yourself when some pugnacious player throws out racist vitriol in the server.

But there can't be an Admin in the server at all times. That would be virtually impossible.

You are correct, XRayman.

I came across this dilemma several times, which necessitated an "all or nothing" approach.

Interestingly enough, when I ditched Language Enforcer and the server filled up again, the server stayed full for several hours every day. Sure, peeps cried about the hackers, racists, and homophobes, but no one was leaving the server. I would just start flushing the bad apples down the toilet when I had free time. 😜

I do have ProCon IOS which made it possible for me to remotely control servers on my IPhone even while traveling.

Pitfighter


You are correct, XRayman.

I came across this dilemma several times, which necessitated an "all or nothing" approach.

Interestingly enough, when I ditched Language Enforcer and the server filled up again, the server stayed full for several hours every day. Sure, peeps cried about the hackers, racists, and homophobes, but no one was leaving the server. I would just start flushing the bad apples down the toilet when I had free time. 😜

When i play on official servers or other community BF4 servers, you don't see people cussing up a storm or saying racist remarks very often. People that say racist remarks are trying to get attention, if you ignore them, they tend to shut up or leave the server (official servers).
 
EVGA gaming changed in 2014, evga forced all the game servers to be PG rated, i don't know if the same rule applies to evga official discord server or not. If it does, violence is screwed.
 
  
 
 

MSim

Pitfighter


You are correct, XRayman.

I came across this dilemma several times, which necessitated an "all or nothing" approach.

Interestingly enough, when I ditched Language Enforcer and the server filled up again, the server stayed full for several hours every day. Sure, peeps cried about the hackers, racists, and homophobes, but no one was leaving the server. I would just start flushing the bad apples down the toilet when I had free time. 😜

When i play on official servers or other community BF4 servers, you don't see people cussing up a storm or saying racist remarks very often. People that say racist remarks are trying to get attention, if you ignore them, they tend to shut up or leave the server (official servers).
 
EVGA gaming changed in 2014, evga forced all the game servers to be PG rated, i don't know if the same rule applies to evga official discord server or not. If it does, violence is screwed.
 
  
 
 

Yes, MSim, you're right; those haters weren't all that common. I suspected that sometimes, some of the players using "racist" remarks May have been minorities themselves.

The biggest gripe I had with Language Enforcer is that it does not understand context in a conversation. The other gripe is that it produced false positives on words not resembling swear or hate remarks.

In fact, the problem with a majority of these magical ProCon plugins is that most are designed to micromanage the player population in a server. Most admins who turn on all the buttons without studying the effects for a few days are usually rewarded with a dead server and cries of "badmin" from frustrated players echoing through gaming forums.

I am not accusing EVGA of doing bad things. I am merely describing my first hand experience and of the mistakes that I, myself, had made.😜