stalinx20
atfrico
MSim
EGC was never about one person, it was a group effort. People are commenting on it, when they weren't around when EGC was crated from EVGA*BANDITS. When EGC was created (by the community), the community didn't want one person in charge of it. We already been down that road before. Everyone wanted a round circle, where the core group had a say in stuff.
+1 I concur, it was easy to come up with a decision when everyone voice their opinions and come to an agreement. Those who don't know i was Lancelot of the round table
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MSim, let me ask you this, feel free to answer, you don't have to though...who would you like to see/play again with? I am very intrigue. I have my list, but i want to see yours first.
stalinx20
MSim
At no time did evga not ever have the final say in things. Any rules we came up with had to be approved by evga.
I would say things are at an impasse. The community has made up it's mind about evga gaming, and evga doesn't want to budge on forcing the servers to be PG. If veterans of EGC want things to be like old times, they will need to do it on servers outside of evga control.
If I may add to this... by allowing the EGC to voice their opinion on certain rules being added and allow voting on those rules, it not only involves the EGC community, but it gives their take on it, and makes them feel important, and it also has them to "stick around longer".
I might have to disagree with you. To be honest Stalinx, every admin (back in the days), myself included did not like to kick/ban anyone in the server. We have to play rock, paper, scissors game or guess the number in the mic to decide who was going to kick or ban someone in that night
. At the end, All Admins came to the conclusion that we needed to rotate from A to Z in kicking, banning or giving warnings to players. No one felt important back then. Every admin knew who was who and what we needed to do in that night and whatever decision was made, it was a group decision. We all supported each other whether it was a bad/good decision. If someone messed up, we all did, period. That is why you will see someone saying it felt like a brotherhood, because it was.
I have come with ideas that had been implemented, whether i was an Admin or a forum member, you don't see me bragging or feel important.
All i can say is this: if someone would like things to be the way they were before, it starts with not just one person, but all who were involved. I am up for it to give it a try, it is up to the rest of the good old times members to step up and try.
You're missing my point. If you have 10 people that think it's a good idea to have "X idea" but EVGA says no, then the answer is no.
It is the other way around, you are not reading correctly. I'm talking about the time BC2 came out. That's the time MSim is talking about also, this was the time where the Admins will agreed on a decision and any rules that was not written in the TOS will be executed within the TOS and with management approval. The Admins back then, that included me as well, were not abusing their powers. Some did after the launch of BF3 and before this launch I was gone as An EGC Admin. I believe this is the time you are referring to. I noticed the complaints from members posting, former Admins too about the abuse of powers from Admins, and it became a concern because it was not how that started. I agree with you when EVGA Mgmt says no, then you need to follow what they say if not you will be removed, simple as that.
IMO, you don't feel comfortable with the Admins that are patrolling the servers and you are not the only one it seems. You need to state your opinion, you got nothing to lose since you don't visit the servers anymore, but be very clear about which admins you don't trust and why. I already stated who I trust, it is time you and everyone else do the same.