2016/10/13 22:53:19
Opolis
Awwww yeah!
CPU's to WCG and GPUs for folding and PG.  Gonna be a good month.
2016/10/14 14:37:36
cuarc001
bcavnaugh
HK-Steve
Awesome,
Is this one of the Challenges that you can bunker??


Remember out team is not the bunker Type.
You will have to read the Rules and post back here to let us know.
Myself I will no longer bunker.
(The challenge's aim is to get as much points as possible in the given time frame.)
With this I would think any task download before the time frame would not count.
Also WCG task come in sets sometimes and you may get your limit but not enough to make a real difference.
So you rig could sit for a few days with no running tasks.


Kinda. When it comes to the art of bunkering, there are ways to get more work than typically allowed. At WCG they do limit the amount of work that can be cached which means you normally can't actually stock up 10 full days worth. However, if you use the cc_config.xml file and use the line to tell the client that you have more cpu's than it actually has, BOINC will act like it has that many CPU's  and thus download enough work for that many. After filling up that cache, you can remove the line. The only thing you have to worry about is task deadlines. Most will have around 10 days but some resends may only give you 4 days to turn them in. So, yes some work may not meet the deadline. Odds are that the majority will work. If you are serious about bunkering do a dry run in advance.
 
Also, you can load up VM's, cache them up and sit on them as long as the deadlines are long enough. Again, resends are the only real problematic ones. By using VM's, you can bunkering ~2-4 days on each one and then process until they are dry. Start next VM...process until dry. Then on day one, unload bunker from VM1, then VM2, etc...
 
One thing to be cautioned about is if you care about how your computer is rated with WCG. What I mean is that PC's that are verified reliable and quick returns are typically devices that are given things like BETA work. If you aren't returning work consistently within 4 days, it may take a little while to re-establish that rating. I do not recall how long that takes. Been too long.
2016/10/14 14:43:43
bcavnaugh
cuarc001
bcavnaugh
HK-Steve
Awesome,
Is this one of the Challenges that you can bunker??


Remember out team is not the bunker Type.
You will have to read the Rules and post back here to let us know.
Myself I will no longer bunker.
(The challenge's aim is to get as much points as possible in the given time frame.)
With this I would think any task download before the time frame would not count.
Also WCG task come in sets sometimes and you may get your limit but not enough to make a real difference.
So you rig could sit for a few days with no running tasks.


Kinda. When it comes to the art of bunkering, there are ways to get more work than typically allowed. At WCG they do limit the amount of work that can be cached which means you normally can't actually stock up 10 full days worth. However, if you use the cc_config.xml file and use the line to tell the client that you have more cpu's than it actually has, BOINC will act like it has that many CPU's  and thus download enough work for that many. After filling up that cache, you can remove the line. The only thing you have to worry about is task deadlines. Most will have around 10 days but some resends may only give you 4 days to turn them in. So, yes some work may not meet the deadline. Odds are that the majority will work. If you are serious about bunkering do a dry run in advance.
 
Also, you can load up VM's, cache them up and sit on them as long as the deadlines are long enough. Again, resends are the only real problematic ones. By using VM's, you can bunkering ~2-4 days on each one and then process until they are dry. Start next VM...process until dry. Then on day one, unload bunker from VM1, then VM2, etc...


As I said above "Everyone will do it anyway so no need to ponder on it" But Thank You cuarc001
2016/10/14 14:49:45
cuarc001
Not a problem. This technique is also used by some to get BETA work units when they are being released. They set their VM's profile to only request work from the sub projects with little or limited work, use an app_config to limit total number of work units to run of that kind from WCG and then attempt to download 1 beta work unit per core you designated in your cc_config. While everyone else struggles to get 1-12 or so work units... others have one VM trying to claim like 80 even though the box doesn't have but maybe 4 cores in it. Very shady biz, but that is how some are gobbling them up.
2016/10/14 14:59:03
bcavnaugh
Well for me all Challenges and Events that our Team Participate in are all great and I enjoy being in them.
But for me it is the Inner Team Participation Between Team Member within a Challenge or an Event.
Most if not all Pie Charts are of our Team Members and not between Teams them selves.
2016/10/14 15:17:54
bill1024
I bunkered a couple times, I used spare drives with the folding appliance and got as many WUs, crunched them and swapped drives.
VM would be easier.
 
I don't like doing it. We really do not go in to win but to crunch for fun and to fins a cure.
There are big crunching teams out there, kinda like EVGA is to folding.
Now with PG, this year I want to do well just for my own competitiveness, well and to help the team keep 5th place.
The GPU PG challenges are my weakness since I am CPU bound more or less. Will see how the next one goes. I think we can do 5th place.
 
Its all in good fun either way.
2016/10/14 17:39:53
ipkha
I wasn't thinking of that crazy bunkering strategy.
I was thinking if having the client request 3 days of work about 2.5 days before the event starts and turning off the network connectivity till the contest starts. No way am I messing with that config file, I couldn't figure it out earlier on my quest to exclude specific gpus.
2016/10/14 18:31:20
yodap
bill1024
I bunkered a couple times, I used spare drives with the folding appliance and got as many WUs, crunched them and swapped drives.
VM would be easier.
 
I don't like doing it. We really do not go in to win but to crunch for fun and to fins a cure.
There are big crunching teams out there, kinda like EVGA is to folding.
Now with PG, this year I want to do well just for my own competitiveness, well and to help the team keep 5th place.
The GPU PG challenges are my weakness since I am CPU bound more or less. Will see how the next one goes. I think we can do 5th place.
 
Its all in good fun either way.


Yeah I'll bunker a day or 2 if I remember and I'm not crunching other projects.
 
I think we can get 5th unless fastgeek and Scott Brown have a lot of gpu's also.
2016/10/14 19:33:08
bcavnaugh
yodap
bill1024
I bunkered a couple times, I used spare drives with the folding appliance and got as many WUs, crunched them and swapped drives.
VM would be easier.
 
I don't like doing it. We really do not go in to win but to crunch for fun and to fins a cure.
There are big crunching teams out there, kinda like EVGA is to folding.
Now with PG, this year I want to do well just for my own competitiveness, well and to help the team keep 5th place.
The GPU PG challenges are my weakness since I am CPU bound more or less. Will see how the next one goes. I think we can do 5th place.
 
Its all in good fun either way.


Yeah I'll bunker a day or 2 if I remember and I'm not crunching other projects.
 
I think we can get 5th unless fastgeek and Scott Brown have a lot of gpu's also.


Isn't That the Truth
2016/10/15 15:03:52
ipkha
Umm, that's cpus for wcg tasks. But they both have a ton of those too. Here's hoping they are occupied with other work during this contest.

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