Dukman

kram36

Dukman
It's not about how fast they shift.  It's about the fact that an 8, 9 or 10 speed transmission is going to constantly shift.  The gears are going to be way too close to each other to be practical.  I hear it every time I go down the freeway, any throttle tip in and the vehicle changes the gear. 

A dual clutch is all fine and good (if you like boring) as long as there are a reasonable amount of gears involved.  A 6 speed is really the most that a gasoline powered car ever really needs.  7 is doable but overkill.  

Then you don't care about performance. Plus it gets rid of the gas guzzler tax.

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How is not wanting 10 gears or an automatic not caring about performance?   

Anyway, it seems like Im the odd one out when it comes to these multiple gear automatics.  Everyone else is excited about it.  Okay.  I'll stay over here with my antiquated 3 pedals and 5 gears.  

The new close ratio X gear automatics, allow your third member to be geared for acceleration and still cruise at 80 MPH under 2500 rpm
 
They want to keep the engine in the power-band; but, that's kind of funny as the supercharger should give it a mile wide power-band.
 
Are the automatics race proven and tough and will they holdup to the torque - don't know 
 
But if you run 4:10 in your third member; you'd want another gear for highway cruising  ? 
 
I have no idea what the gear ratio of the third member is in this 2017 toy.

stalinx20
 
 

 


You have to really want it though. $62K is still a lot of money to put down just to enjoy the performance. If they're wanting to, however, go for it!
 
Don't get me wrong on any of this, I'll choose GM over Ford any day.

You priced the Shelby GT 350 / GT350R  Mustang with All of the goodies ?  $54K GT350 & $62K GT350R Base price + shipping
 
Ford Shelby GT 350 & 350R
 
http://www.ford.com/cars/...ls/?models=shelbygt350|shelbygt350r
 

Cool GTX

The new close ratio X gear automatics, allow your third member to be geared for acceleration and still cruise at 80 MPH under 2500 rpm
 
They want to keep the engine in the power-band; but, that's kind of funny as the supercharger should give it a mile wide power-band.
 
Are the automatics race proven and tough and will they holdup to the torque - don't know 
 
But if you run 4:11 in your third member; you'd want another gear for highway cruising  ? 
 
I have no idea what the gear ratio of the third member is in this 2017 toy.

 
I can do that now with my 5 speed and 4.10 gears.     2500rpm is actually kind of high.  Which is why I am looking for a 6 speed out of a GT500.  A taller overdrive while in 6th allowing for freeway cruising at sub 2000 rpm's.  But I dont need 4 extra gears to keep me in the power band.  A proper 3rd and 4th gear spacing will do that easily.    
 
But I concede.  I don't like them and see that many gears in a light duty vehicle as superfluous. Everybody else does like them..  We'll wait and see how they feel about it after owning it for awhile.   
 
I would imagine the ZL1 probably ships with something like 3.31's in it.  Both to make it more driver friendly and to hedge that gas guzzler thing.  

Besides heel & toe is too hard for most to master
 
I'd take the 6-speed --- except rush hour on the east coast = bumper to bumper - start -n- stop for 1 to 2 hrs each way in some of the bigger cities
 
You could walk faster during rush hour: DC, Baltimore, Philly
 
Locally:  The lemmings make a run for the beach every weekend, peak travel time the backups are measured in miles
 
 

You can get a Roush Package on a Mustang and make 670bhp and 545 tq for $39,000
http://www.jmfroushperformance.com/
 
 

Its hard to believe the prices of new cars these days. When I was a kid you could get a very nice ride for under 10,000 dollars. When I was a kid cars had points, no fuel injection and no catalytic converter and gas was 50 cents a gallon. LOL

Shockjockey
Its hard to believe the prices of new cars these days. When I was a kid you could get a very nice ride for under 10,000 dollars. When I was a kid cars had points, no fuel injection and no catalytic converter and gas was 50 cents a gallon. LOL

+1   Your OLD
 
We would put Shell super in the mower for about 50 cents a gallon
 
Even then, the fast cars cost about 1 years salary for a white-collar worker --- so it really has not changed that much.  Just decades of inflation.
 
Though in the last 10 years cars have outpaced inflation by a lot.

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Nozler
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You all complaining about the price do not understand the category this car sits in. This is a high performance sports car, not a Chevy Cruz. Look at the cost of my Porsche Boxster new 13 years ago. Yeah that's $61,070 on the sticker. The 2017 ZL1 will wipe my Boxster and probably any car in it's price range in every performance category. 13 years later just barley $1,000 more. It's a bargain!