zell2004
Replacement preparing to ship. Hope they send it on monday.  I sent a mail to support to get a confirmation that i will get a new card and not a refurb. I really want to be done with all this and just enjoy gaming again.
 
 

i definitely agree with you, i would've been happy with my first card if this hadn't had a hardware problem with the select few (many so far). Good luck to you! happy gaming!

jlp209

Nereus
 
Considering getting a Titan XP instead - it's a huge amount of money for a graphics card, but I haven't heard of any issues except that they run pretty hot... and I don't plan on running a custom loop, it would stay on air cooling. Hmmm... I'd like to stay with the 1080 Hybrid but I'm already about to do a 2nd RMA.. tough decision. Take a chance on a 3rd Hybrid, or spend another $400+ for a beast of a card?
 
 

Neither. Try a Classified. I said to heck with it, packed up my RMA Hybrid to send back to EVGA tomorrow. Done with the BS 100% issue and the great unknown whether I have a ticking time bomb in my case, and/or a refurb card, that runs slower and hotter than the original card I got. Not going to hijack this thread with my initial impressions of the Classified that I just got. It's a beast. I almost bought the MSI Seahawk or Gaming X due to this shady situation, but I couldn't do it. 

I would have gone with the Classified, but I don't feel confident ordering any of Evga 1080 series given the FTW problems could have spread (Evga silence doesn't help) ..How has your experience been with the Classified? ..I guess there's no need to feel like your hijacking because most people like myself are, at this point, looking for alternatives.

J0NOX

jlp209

Nereus
 
Considering getting a Titan XP instead - it's a huge amount of money for a graphics card, but I haven't heard of any issues except that they run pretty hot... and I don't plan on running a custom loop, it would stay on air cooling. Hmmm... I'd like to stay with the 1080 Hybrid but I'm already about to do a 2nd RMA.. tough decision. Take a chance on a 3rd Hybrid, or spend another $400+ for a beast of a card?
 
 

Neither. Try a Classified. I said to heck with it, packed up my RMA Hybrid to send back to EVGA tomorrow. Done with the BS 100% issue and the great unknown whether I have a ticking time bomb in my case, and/or a refurb card, that runs slower and hotter than the original card I got. Not going to hijack this thread with my initial impressions of the Classified that I just got. It's a beast. I almost bought the MSI Seahawk or Gaming X due to this shady situation, but I couldn't do it. 

I would have gone with the Classified, but I don't feel confident ordering any of Evga 1080 series given the FTW problems could have spread (Evga silence doesn't help) ..How has your experience been with the Classified? ..I guess there's no need to feel like your hijacking because most people like myself are, at this point, looking for alternatives.

So far my experience is all positive. I posted my initial OC and temps impressions in the Classified thread. It exceeds my Hybrid in performance and temps are only 10-15 degrees warmer in games. No odd stuttering and severe downclocking while gaming like Hybrid. Max while gaming with Hybrid was 58C. Max with Classified while gaming is 69C so far. The Classified is just a massive card but not length wise. It's got girth, haha. The fans are huge and build quality is top notch. I really think there was something still wrong with my RMA Hybrid despite being "fixed" but I'll never know. I was nowhere near temp and power limit but always ran hotter and got voltage throttled down to 2012mhz. I accept getting hit with re-stocking fee if EVGA sees fit. Worth it to be done with this. Regardless, GPU Boost 3.0 is the worst thing to happen to GPU's ever. I hate, hate, HATE it, and can't wait for someone to finally crack the bios to eliminate it. You will always get voltage or power throttled, even if your temps are nowhere near max. In my case, right now (stock bios), the Hybrid makes no sense to me since it suffers the same fate as air cooled cards re: voltage and power throttling. Save the money and buy a regular FTW or another brand of custom cooled card. 
 
The closest alternative to the Hybrid would be Seahawk X. But you'll have to connect the fan to your motherboard in which case it'll run at 100%, or get a fan controller. Gigabyte support sucks and their cards have issues too like loud pumps or faulty LEDs and fans, per reviews on NewEgg. Asus, decent, but the triple fan cards are just insane and ridiculous looking, to me. Ditto re: Zotac, that thing is just unnecessary. MSI Gaming X is a solid alternative to FTW I think and what I would've gotten had I not done an audible when I got to the store. In the end I still have some faith in EVGA and will give them a pass on this, right or wrong. I'm sure this is a bad problem that they never expected and are trying to solve it. Just not being open about it. That said, if BS100% happens with this Classified, that will be the last straw. 

jlp209

J0NOX

jlp209

Nereus
 
Considering getting a Titan XP instead - it's a huge amount of money for a graphics card, but I haven't heard of any issues except that they run pretty hot... and I don't plan on running a custom loop, it would stay on air cooling. Hmmm... I'd like to stay with the 1080 Hybrid but I'm already about to do a 2nd RMA.. tough decision. Take a chance on a 3rd Hybrid, or spend another $400+ for a beast of a card?
 
 

Neither. Try a Classified. I said to heck with it, packed up my RMA Hybrid to send back to EVGA tomorrow. Done with the BS 100% issue and the great unknown whether I have a ticking time bomb in my case, and/or a refurb card, that runs slower and hotter than the original card I got. Not going to hijack this thread with my initial impressions of the Classified that I just got. It's a beast. I almost bought the MSI Seahawk or Gaming X due to this shady situation, but I couldn't do it. 

I would have gone with the Classified, but I don't feel confident ordering any of Evga 1080 series given the FTW problems could have spread (Evga silence doesn't help) ..How has your experience been with the Classified? ..I guess there's no need to feel like your hijacking because most people like myself are, at this point, looking for alternatives.

So far my experience is all positive. I posted my initial OC and temps impressions in the Classified thread. It exceeds my Hybrid in performance and temps are only 10-15 degrees warmer in games. No odd stuttering and severe downclocking while gaming like Hybrid. Max while gaming with Hybrid was 58C. Max with Classified while gaming is 69C so far. The Classified is just a massive card but not length wise. It's got girth, haha. The fans are huge and build quality is top notch. I really think there was something still wrong with my RMA Hybrid despite being "fixed" but I'll never know. I was nowhere near temp and power limit but always ran hotter and got voltage throttled down to 2012mhz. I accept getting hit with re-stocking fee if EVGA sees fit. Worth it to be done with this. Regardless, GPU Boost 3.0 is the worst thing to happen to GPU's ever. I hate, hate, HATE it, and can't wait for someone to finally crack the bios to eliminate it. You will always get voltage or power throttled, even if your temps are nowhere near max. In my case, right now (stock bios), the Hybrid makes no sense to me since it suffers the same fate as air cooled cards re: voltage and power throttling. Save the money and buy a regular FTW or another brand of custom cooled card. 
 
The closest alternative to the Hybrid would be Seahawk X. But you'll have to connect the fan to your motherboard in which case it'll run at 100%, or get a fan controller. Gigabyte support sucks and their cards have issues too like loud pumps or faulty LEDs and fans, per reviews on NewEgg. Asus, decent, but the triple fan cards are just insane and ridiculous looking, to me. Ditto re: Zotac, that thing is just unnecessary. MSI Gaming X is a solid alternative to FTW I think and what I would've gotten had I not done an audible when I got to the store. In the end I still have some faith in EVGA and will give them a pass on this, right or wrong. I'm sure this is a bad problem that they never expected and are trying to solve it. Just not being open about it. That said, if BS100% happens with this Classified, that will be the last straw. 

Overclocks and downclocking with voltage/power/heat seem to just be related to hitting a chips max potential it can run at a certain mhz. I've gone threw 4 classifieds and 2 out of 4 would always downclock cause of voltage no matter what settings I used or even -200mhz underclocked!

The only way I can get the 2 good cards to not throw up a limit 1 on any of the 3 is to lower the fan profile to where it will basic lyrics run at 20% and let it get hot in the upper 60s and then it will toss up solid 1s for ea limit regardless if I'm hitting the power/voltage limit.

So to me they must build a custom profile for ea chip and if you run it higher then it's profile and something is out of wacky it will toss up a limit and start downclocking.

So on the 2 good ones It never down clocks from max 2164mhz runing the cards 1 at a time durring testing for benches or gaming for an hour or more. Tempts max would be 59c max fans.

Runing the 2 together is another issue. Max in sli stable seems to only be around 2114mhz. That's why I'm going to be putting water blocks on them (would be today but the post office decided not to put my package on a truck even though it's been there since 8am! :/ ).

Also one card will run 2200+ for 2-3 mins in firestrike and the other can complete a firestrike bench at 2190.. numbers off rhe top of my head as I'm not sitting in front of the pc with my notes.

MEmory too high will limit your core clock. One card will run problem free with 12k mem and the other don't seem to like 5500mhz "11k".

So it's all a crap shoot what you get in the end. It don't look like evga is binning any cards over the stated clocks.

EVGA claims this is a small issue, but 33 pages and near silence from EVGA says something very different. I suspect this issue is much larger and EVGA wants to avoid costs.
 
That's fair as it may only occur on some set-ups, but numerous defective RMA cards is entirely unacceptable. 
 
I called and was offered an RMA (although no issue with my card - yet - I feel it's a time bomb in my PC case). I can't return the card as it's too late, so what do members do?
 
EVGA: Why, given the very mediocre way you've handled this so far, have you not offered to use the step-up for a Classified card? I'd happily pay the difference just to have a card that should work and doesn't feel like I'm waiting for it to fail.

Avisari
 
From what I've read the customer support has been very good in this issue. It's the lack of information that people have been complaining about, and generally speaking well of the support.

Oh, absolutely. We deserve to know more than just "it's a hardware problem," but I won't hold my breath. The lack of transparency doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

another one bites the dust...
 
first time the BS + 100% fans happened to me was last Friday (ordered from amazon on 30 august) after 15 min of SWBF.
 
opened the support ticket the same day and got this reply from EVGA EU:
 
"We apologize for the problem you are experiencing with the card and we would of course like to offer you a RMA as well as a Pick-Up for the card. Please let us know when you would like us to create the Pick-Up after you have created the RMA request. The Pick-Up is usually carried out on the next business day after it has been created.
(...)
Important: Please note that you have to send your item without accessories and in factory condition.
Also, please do not use the original Box for shipping if you would like to keep it."
 
This is a pain in the neck but if everything goes as planned and mentioned above, i can only praise EVGA for their excellent costumer service.
Now waiting for the RMA to be approved. I just hope they do not send a refurbish / re-certified card, but a NEW card and that the issue is fixed.

Another quick update that might help others in this thread.
 
I have been running with my new GB 1080 xtreme over the weekend and have yet to reproduce the problem - I have played 8+ hours of Elite Dangerous, 20+ hours of benchmarks/stress tests, and various other games mostly in VR w/VIVE.
 
So if you have the black screen/fans issue with your FTW I suggest not waiting on the fences for some magic 'driver update' - it's likely not coming, *DEMAND* a replacement card immediately. It does not matter how long you have had the card at this point - EVGA are aware of the problem and admit it is hardware related, therefore you have the right to demand a brand new card (not re-certified) because you were *knowingly* sold a defective product.
 
 
 
 
 

I have 2 of them for 5 days now and I don't experience these problem. Is everybody have a problem with this or just a small group of people?

It's settled, gonna take the leap and get the Classified
 
I'm done waiting. I was gonna go with the MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X, but I really want to extend my warranty seeing as it is a very expensive card. So I'm still sticking with EVGA.
 
Gonna look good in my Be Quiet Dark Base Pro 900 black case