2016/10/31 06:45:07
ilyama
Newly manufactured cards (After Sept 8th apparently) are shipping with the installed thermal pads
 
This is real and official that ? I have a 19 september card...
2016/10/31 07:23:59
charlemagnes_joy
ilyama
Newly manufactured cards (After Sept 8th apparently) are shipping with the installed thermal pads
 
This is real and official that ? I have a 19 september card...




I actually made a mistake and have changed it. Its the BS100% issue causing VRM IC's have been changed on cards manufactured after September 1st. You can order the thermal pads from EVGA from today on. But there is no clear date as to when cards are going to be shipped with the pads built in.
2016/10/31 07:47:53
jlp209
s1nrgy
So would the FTW Hybrid be safe to buy?


 
Yes assuming the card is purchased from EVGA. If you buy it from another retailer it may have been shipped prior to the date when all subsequent cards should've been fixed. My latest FTW Hybrid has no issues. Bought at a Microcenter on 10/12/16. Saw the Hybrid in stock there on Oct 11th for the 1st time so I was fairly certain it had been shipped from EVGA with the appropriate fix.
 
BS100% issue: Yes affects FTW Hybrid cards too.
VRM heat issue / thermal pads mod: Does not apply to FTW Hybrid cards. 
2016/10/31 07:54:34
joseph305
well, evga should be letting us know what cards have the new
pads installed ... They should know the start date and serial
number of the fix  ! 
 
EVGA should post something like ..
' If you have a 1070/1080 card with serial number xxxxxxxx
or later you have thermal pads installed and the problem with
vrm heat is fixed... ' 
I'm sure there are many people not coming to this site that haven't
a clue what a thermal pad is , but they can check serial numbers when they
register to see if their card has fix !
jmo...
 
2016/10/31 08:16:17
charlemagnes_joy
joseph305
well, evga should be letting us know what cards have the new
pads installed ... They should know the start date and serial
number of the fix  ! 
 
EVGA should post something like ..
' If you have a 1070/1080 card with serial number xxxxxxxx
or later you have thermal pads installed and the problem with
vrm heat is fixed... ' 
I'm sure there are many people not coming to this site that haven't
a clue what a thermal pad is , but they can check serial numbers when they
register to see if their card has fix !
jmo...
 




Well first, they are saying that you don't need the thermal pads. Its just that most people would prefer them as lower temps is always better to have . Only for extreme overclocking and benchmarking will the pads will be important. So EVGA won't say much to cause people to fuss about them. Although they have made it clear that anyone can get a free kit to install the pads.
 
The other issue is the Black Screen + Fans 100% (BS100%). According to EVGA 3-4% of cards have under spec components and that it happened to cards randomly. Therefore they can't have a simple serial code to tell you which cards are fine or not. They have said that cards they shipped after September 1st don't have this issue. But other re-sellers might have older stock still available. So buy off Amazon or New Egg or any supplier which regularly sells the card and even runs out of stock. This means they will only have new cards.
 
2016/10/31 18:35:18
Eagleizer
RKarov
I have had no black screen during gaming but I did have an endless start and restart issue a couple of days when my GTX 1080 FTW was plugged in so I ordered my thermal-pads.  I hope it and some Arctic Silver will prevent my card from dying.  I did not notice more heat coming from my case so maybe I do not have this issue but i got the card at the end of July so it may be an issue in the future.


Artic Silver or any other conductive thermal paste may short
circuit your components if it gets where it`s not supposed to.
Buy some ceramic thermal paste instead...
 
Cheers :)
2016/10/31 18:39:03
Dicehunter
charlemagnes_joy
Well first, they are saying that you don't need the thermal pads. Its just that most people would prefer them as lower temps is always better to have . Only for extreme overclocking and benchmarking will the pads will be important. So EVGA won't say much to cause people to fuss about them. Although they have made it clear that anyone can get a free kit to install the pads.
 
The other issue is the Black Screen + Fans 100% (BS100%). According to EVGA 3-4% of cards have under spec components and that it happened to cards randomly. Therefore they can't have a simple serial code to tell you which cards are fine or not. They have said that cards they shipped after September 1st don't have this issue. But other re-sellers might have older stock still available. So buy off Amazon or New Egg or any supplier which regularly sells the card and even runs out of stock. This means they will only have new cards.



By chance would you have a link to EVGA stating that ?
2016/10/31 21:42:46
stalinx20
JPS2K5
stalinx20
JPS2K5
EVGA_JacobF
Recently, there are many customers wanting to know more details about the EVGA GeForce 1080 FTW “Black Screen” issue and we believe we need to make a clear statement to clear all kinds of speculation.
 
The EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW “Black Screen” issue was fixed as of the first week of September and this has been confirmed by all users who have received the replacement units with the issue resolved. Also, all new production has been confirmed to not have this issue after the first week of September.
 
This previous black screen issue was caused by On Semiconductor (VRM IC Manufacturer) VRM IC’s being out of spec, triggering the OCP (Over Current Protection) and will not cause any damage to your system. The percentage of the IC’s that were out of spec has been confirmed by On Semiconductor and is approximately 3% to 4%. Since then, EVGA and On Semiconductor have worked out the solution and RMA replacement action a couple months ago as we stated above.  At this moment, all of the EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW’s have been corrected and all products in the field are working properly.
 
If you have any questions, please contact our support directly at: support@evga.com.
 
Thanks,
EVGA



'recently'.... 'we believe'.... You let this thing go on for what, 2 months while people want an explanation and now you come with one. That's not believing, that is called surrendering with a knife at your throat.
 
And now I get to open up my cards and put on thermal pads, because 'no, there is no problem with the cards, it's just a service for people who want cooler cards', yeah right like I want to take the risk not putting them on...
 
I can not believe that there are actually people that cheer at you guys for doing what you should not have to be doing in the first place.
 
EVGA cards... The gift that keeps on giving.


First, you guys (yes, you guys) complain, complain, complain (and complain some more) about stocks not available. Nvidia/EVGA provide "different" solutions to try and satisfy the community and customers by giving an alternate solution to provide stock. Now another problem has arrise, and now you complain complain complain again. WHy dont you give them time to fix their issues? They're human just like you. Yes, they have engineers, but engineers have to diagnose and do trial and errors just like us on our PCs. Take a pill; chill. Let them fix the problem. Like little kids who can't get their hand in the cookie jar...We'll all sit and wait for the next rant. 


What have you done on your end to try to get the card working? Have you tried Debug Mode? Have you tried to under-clock the card a bit to see if you can get any stability? Have you tried cranking the fans full speed and under-clock the card? 







You must come from another planet than me. The planet I'm from, I expect when I buy something for it to work properly instead of me being the beta-tester.
 


Then you shouldn't have complained about low stock. They (Nvidia/EVGA) tried to help you guys out, but no, it wasn't good enough. People can never be happy. So, yes, I live on a completely different world than you do, because i'm not demanding. Thank you.
2016/10/31 23:43:41
Chanser
Cymek
I am unsure if my cards are faulty or not as I get the black screen but haven't noticed the fans spinning up. Games crash often within a few minutes of playing them. No warning just a signal loss to my monitor which goes black sometimes with a buzzing type noise and then it reboots. Debug mode seems to help but not the solution I want. Graphics testing software doesn't cause the problem. I am going to ship my entire computer back to the people that built it and get them to look at it and hopefully replace the cards or work out what else may be causing it. Do others get the black screen and reboot but not the fans issue ?

I've just had this for the first time, black screened and reboot while playing BF1 multiplayer. Fans didn't spin up to 100%.
 
I suspect latest Nvidia driver might be the cause.
2016/11/01 00:52:45
NetQvist
Dicehunter
charlemagnes_joy
Well first, they are saying that you don't need the thermal pads. Its just that most people would prefer them as lower temps is always better to have . Only for extreme overclocking and benchmarking will the pads will be important. So EVGA won't say much to cause people to fuss about them. Although they have made it clear that anyone can get a free kit to install the pads.
 
The other issue is the Black Screen + Fans 100% (BS100%). According to EVGA 3-4% of cards have under spec components and that it happened to cards randomly. Therefore they can't have a simple serial code to tell you which cards are fine or not. They have said that cards they shipped after September 1st don't have this issue. But other re-sellers might have older stock still available. So buy off Amazon or New Egg or any supplier which regularly sells the card and even runs out of stock. This means they will only have new cards.



By chance would you have a link to EVGA stating that ?



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