EtherealEye

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EtherealEye
I'm curious about what overclocks people have gotten with the power limit at default
 
How are some people actually adjusting the voltage on this card? I thought it was locked.

It depends on what bechmark or 3d app you are running... for example - on furmark, when set on 1600x900, no AA, it makes a lot of FPS, and it drains the power very much, so you hit the  100%, or even the 112% power limit. But when you set an AntiAliasing, then it makes less FPS, and drain much less power... in my case, with 8x AA, it drains about 60-80% power, so then you can have the power limit on 90% and it will not throttle down the frequency because of the power.. But when you add some clock frequency, the power consumption rises, but still, 100% target was enough to reach the frequency, where the card becomes unstable.
 
I found, that if I set temperature limit to 60C, then I can set a bigger offset for core and memory in some 3D applications.. I even hit a 2152MHz for a while, and if the temparature is below 60C, then the card is stable. When the temps hits the 60C, it lowers the clock frequency all the way down to 2088MHz, so thats the magic I guess... and in games, where there's not a very full load from time to time, then the temperature drops down and the frequency gets higher again.
 
 
-- but I'm having the most stable settings the same as @ have: +100MHz core and +400MHz on memory (core at 125MHz stable in most applications, but not all... and while testing 2152MHz, it was achieved with custom manual offset at 150MHz or 175MHz offset on 1081mV and 1093mV - the overvoltage has to be on 100% to achieve 1075mV or higher..)

Does the card actually lose stability when it exceeds 60 celcius or is it just a setting you prefer?
 
Unigen Heaven at full 1080p max settings with AA on and Vsync off, I would get some minor artifacts or some sort of odd texture renders when looking closely at 400+ on the memory. I forgot what I was doing on the core but I sure can't do +150 on Heaven staying on 100% power. Seems like you got a better card, although I am not sure if mine is below average or not. For the sake of testing mine and comparing it to everyone else I may have to just bump the power limit up.
 
I don't fully see the need to push the power limit up when the card can already conquer everything I could throw at it right now on my 1080p monitor. I wish nvidia or EVGA could give us vcore voltage control so I can just undervolt my card incrementally starting from the default settings so I can go for pure efficiency for now and just up everything down the road when I actually need it.
 
 

Yes, it does lose stability, when overclocking so high and when it reaches more, than 60-62C.. it varies sometimes... I  just found that, and tried to lock the card to not go over 60C, what it does - and it underclock my offset to lower frequency to stay under 60C, and in that case, it stays stable, even with 175MHz offset on 1093mV... but it was stable only in several games or apps - for example, it was stable in CatZilla... I drains only 40 to 60% power...
 
I don't believe, that I have a better card, I think it's quiet the same... I'm just playing with it so much... :-) And It's not stable on Unigina Heaven - in Heaven I can set core offset to 125MHz max and overvoltage on +70%, but in the Unigine Valley, I can set offset to 125MHz and 100% overvoltage, and it stays stable - when under 60C, it is stable even on 150MHz offset on 1093mV.. i tried +175MHz and it lasted for maybe 30s at 2152MHz, but then it crashed...
 
In Catzilla, I even got it running on 2190MHz, but only for 30s I think... I take my card, as it is stable and safe on +125MHz offset (2101MHz - 2088MHz) with 100% overvoltage and 400MHz memory... over that, it just depends on type of the application I'm running.. In furmark I get some light artifacts even with +400MHz on memory - it seems safe at 350MHz. But on lower temperature, I can have +400MHz on memory, or under 62C even +500MHz on memory without artifacts in games (not furmark, it gets artifacts, because it is not possible to run it under the 62C..).
 
Hey, if you have a 1080p monitor, you don't even need to overclock it, you are going to be safe with this card for a very long time!! :-)
I have UltraWide 3440x1440 and it is quiet demanding resolution, so I know, that the 1070 is the minimum, that's why I got a FTW version, because I wanted as uch powerfull 1070 as possible - I really don't want to buy a gtx1080... :-D I know, that FTW models are great - I had a 750Ti since july 2014 (with 1080p monitor), and these days, it was the fastest 750Ti on market.. :-) but today, I just love the look of the Pascal FTW edition... I was thinking about xtreme gaming from gigabyte, but this FTW looked even on pictures so much stronger, solid and more beatifull.. for me at least.. :-)
 
 
 
 

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EtherealEye
 
Does the card actually lose stability when it exceeds 60 celcius or is it just a setting you prefer?
 
Unigen Heaven at full 1080p max settings with AA on and Vsync off, I would get some minor artifacts or some sort of odd texture renders when looking closely at 400+ on the memory. I forgot what I was doing on the core but I sure can't do +150 on Heaven staying on 100% power. Seems like you got a better card, although I am not sure if mine is below average or not. For the sake of testing mine and comparing it to everyone else I may have to just bump the power limit up.
 
I don't fully see the need to push the power limit up when the card can already conquer everything I could throw at it right now on my 1080p monitor. I wish nvidia or EVGA could give us vcore voltage control so I can just undervolt my card incrementally starting from the default settings so I can go for pure efficiency for now and just up everything down the road when I actually need it.
 
 

Yes, it does lose stability, when overclocking so high and when it reaches more, than 60-62C.. it varies sometimes... I  just found that, and tried to lock the card to not go over 60C, what it does - and it underclock my offset to lower frequency to stay under 60C, and in that case, it stays stable, even with 175MHz offset on 1093mV... but it was stable only in several games or apps - for example, it was stable in CatZilla... I drains only 40 to 60% power...
 
I don't believe, that I have a better card, I think it's quiet the same... I'm just playing with it so much... :-) And It's not stable on Unigina Heaven - in Heaven I can set core offset to 125MHz max and overvoltage on +70%, but in the Unigine Valley, I can set offset to 125MHz and 100% overvoltage, and it stays stable - when under 60C, it is stable even on 150MHz offset on 1093mV.. i tried +175MHz and it lasted for maybe 30s at 2152MHz, but then it crashed...
 
In Catzilla, I even got it running on 2190MHz, but only for 30s I think... I take my card, as it is stable and safe on +125MHz offset (2101MHz - 2088MHz) with 100% overvoltage and 400MHz memory... over that, it just depends on type of the application I'm running.. In furmark I get some light artifacts even with +400MHz on memory - it seems safe at 350MHz. But on lower temperature, I can have +400MHz on memory, or under 62C even +500MHz on memory without artifacts in games (not furmark, it gets artifacts, because it is not possible to run it under the 62C..).
 
Hey, if you have a 1080p monitor, you don't even need to overclock it, you are going to be safe with this card for a very long time!! :-)
I have UltraWide 3440x1440 and it is quiet demanding resolution, so I know, that the 1070 is the minimum, that's why I got a FTW version, because I wanted as uch powerfull 1070 as possible - I really don't want to buy a gtx1080... :-D I know, that FTW models are great - I had a 750Ti since july 2014 (with 1080p monitor), and these days, it was the fastest 750Ti on market.. :-) but today, I just love the look of the Pascal FTW edition... I was thinking about xtreme gaming from gigabyte, but this FTW looked even on pictures so much stronger, solid and more beatifull.. for me at least.. :-)
 

It seemed like the GTX 1070 was superior to the GTX 1060 in bang for buck ironically and I got a good deal on a regular FTW edition, the power efficiency too is also stellar for the performance range.. I still would like to put my GPU to the test so I know what it can do. As I said I would undervolt it if the voltage offset wasn't locked. You mentioned overvoltage a few times. Am I missing something?
 
My case can't keep the card below 60 under load even with the power limit at 50, not unless I crank the fans up to noisy levels. I'm planning to adjust my case airflow since this card in a 100% internal blower

You guys are too optimistic regarding memory overclock. I was also happy to run Firestrike with +700 believing I have the best vram in the world, til I fired GTA V with +700 on the memory and it was a christmas tree flashing red and green. +600 was stable though.

EtherealEye

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EtherealEye
 
Does the card actually lose stability when it exceeds 60 celcius or is it just a setting you prefer?
 
Unigen Heaven at full 1080p max settings with AA on and Vsync off, I would get some minor artifacts or some sort of odd texture renders when looking closely at 400+ on the memory. I forgot what I was doing on the core but I sure can't do +150 on Heaven staying on 100% power. Seems like you got a better card, although I am not sure if mine is below average or not. For the sake of testing mine and comparing it to everyone else I may have to just bump the power limit up.
 
I don't fully see the need to push the power limit up when the card can already conquer everything I could throw at it right now on my 1080p monitor. I wish nvidia or EVGA could give us vcore voltage control so I can just undervolt my card incrementally starting from the default settings so I can go for pure efficiency for now and just up everything down the road when I actually need it.
 
 

Yes, it does lose stability, when overclocking so high and when it reaches more, than 60-62C.. it varies sometimes... I  just found that, and tried to lock the card to not go over 60C, what it does - and it underclock my offset to lower frequency to stay under 60C, and in that case, it stays stable, even with 175MHz offset on 1093mV... but it was stable only in several games or apps - for example, it was stable in CatZilla... I drains only 40 to 60% power...
 
I don't believe, that I have a better card, I think it's quiet the same... I'm just playing with it so much... :-) And It's not stable on Unigina Heaven - in Heaven I can set core offset to 125MHz max and overvoltage on +70%, but in the Unigine Valley, I can set offset to 125MHz and 100% overvoltage, and it stays stable - when under 60C, it is stable even on 150MHz offset on 1093mV.. i tried +175MHz and it lasted for maybe 30s at 2152MHz, but then it crashed...
 
In Catzilla, I even got it running on 2190MHz, but only for 30s I think... I take my card, as it is stable and safe on +125MHz offset (2101MHz - 2088MHz) with 100% overvoltage and 400MHz memory... over that, it just depends on type of the application I'm running.. In furmark I get some light artifacts even with +400MHz on memory - it seems safe at 350MHz. But on lower temperature, I can have +400MHz on memory, or under 62C even +500MHz on memory without artifacts in games (not furmark, it gets artifacts, because it is not possible to run it under the 62C..).
 
Hey, if you have a 1080p monitor, you don't even need to overclock it, you are going to be safe with this card for a very long time!! :-)
I have UltraWide 3440x1440 and it is quiet demanding resolution, so I know, that the 1070 is the minimum, that's why I got a FTW version, because I wanted as uch powerfull 1070 as possible - I really don't want to buy a gtx1080... :-D I know, that FTW models are great - I had a 750Ti since july 2014 (with 1080p monitor), and these days, it was the fastest 750Ti on market.. :-) but today, I just love the look of the Pascal FTW edition... I was thinking about xtreme gaming from gigabyte, but this FTW looked even on pictures so much stronger, solid and more beatifull.. for me at least.. :-)
 

It seemed like the GTX 1070 was superior to the GTX 1060 in bang for buck ironically and I got a good deal on a regular FTW edition, the power efficiency too is also stellar for the performance range.. I still would like to put my GPU to the test so I know what it can do. As I said I would undervolt it if the voltage offset wasn't locked. You mentioned overvoltage a few times. Am I missing something?
 
My case can't keep the card below 60 under load even with the power limit at 50, not unless I crank the fans up to noisy levels. I'm planning to adjust my case airflow since this card in a 100% internal blower

By "overvoltage", I mean the slider on the left side of the clock offset setting. I'm setting it at 100% over the normal voltage. Or this is how I undertand it. And I'm also running the fans at 100% too, when I'm overclocking to that high level... It is just to try the maximum possibilities with this card.. On gaming, I'm using just a normal overclock at +125MHz offset on core and +400-500MHz on memory with a slightly adjusted fan curve to be more agresive and still remain acceptably quet.

I have mine set to 2,100mhz which will stay at 1.09vcore till it hits around 55c, then it drops to 2,088mhz at 1.09 or 1.08 and eventually to 2077 with a fan profile set around 60% Though this is while playing doom at 1080p so gpu usage isn't 100% I can not run firestrike at these settings, I must set it to 2025mhz max, though I never set my fan above 60% just to test the bleeding edge because thats not real world anyways, im not trying to break records.

Swapping my drives from the middle cage to the lower one and completely removing the middle cage did the trick along with a cable management overhaul. The temps on my card are holding 57-58 now rather than 65-66. I just need to see if this reduces the heat on the motherboard or if I will need to get some case fans and a fan controller. I'll have to take that  to the Coolermaster community. I've seen a massive thread on my case with air flow setups.

@ racebum
any flickering at the benchmark ?
 
 

I bought the 1070 FTW thinking it would be the best EVGA could do as it had a 10 phase power delivery, and i didn't factory in that my card would be a bad overclocker as it crashes at anything over 2065 mhz with +100% voltage and 122% power, but at least the memory can run at +500 mhz.
 
But the real issue is that this crap card throttles itself at just 60*C, i hate that, as if the OC wasn't bad enough it takes takes another 30-50 mhz of the OC and runs 2025 or 2012 mhz on average.
 
And for some odd reason my card run higher clocks when it is below 50*c.
 
Maybe a custom BIOS can make the card use more voltage and overclock higher, but for now i'm disappointed with my 1070 FTW's OC potential as other cards can archive so much more, so EVGA should be binning these cards better as this silicon lottery is a joke for this high-end model, and the lack of binning is making damn sure i won't be thinking of EVGA next time i'm buying a GPU.

Bear304But the real issue is that this crap card throttles itself at just 60*C, i hate that, as if the OC wasn't bad enough it takes takes another 30-50 mhz of the OC and runs 2025 or 2012 mhz on average.

Your OC is perfectly fine. You just didn't win the silicon lottery, pity.
Regarding the boost clock with higher temperatures read this: https://www.techpowerup.c...Force_GTX_1080/29.html

My FTW 1070 also are very badly. I get only stable 2012Mhz, this is a joke for a high end Card. With a MSI i get 2070. Why is the FTW so badly? Other User get over 2100Mhz and i have 2012Mhz. I don't like the FTW.