2016/06/30 18:11:54
Scarlet-Tech
Stalin... to beat?  480 in CF is scoring 2200 points LOWER than one 1080, not higher... 
2016/06/30 18:16:27
jfolds
If i were to build a new pc, all evga parts.. board, psu.. mem, case.. all evga

Could you find me two 1080 ftw cards for it? Just asking.. cause with my time spent here I been looking at evga parts. Some of which are notify as well like the motherboard and the case is preorder..
2016/06/30 18:17:18
stalinx20
diftow
Henrynguyen20
lol you're right diftow, I feel confidence with evga, i never use AMD, only for all of my cousins build
i don't know why evga is short on demand this time. On the other hand,  msi 1080 and 1070 gaming x is in stock of Frys and microcenter already



It's Nvidia's fault, and it isn't the only issue I've had with Nvidia.

1. Charging people $50 for a license for "3D Play" on a $500 GPU. Just extortion right there.

2. Terrible drivers. Their drivers for Windows 10 were broken long after the official release had begun. And prior to Windows 10, I've experienced issues with games that were driver related as well, countless times. It wasn't the games either, it was Nvidia drivers. My old BFG 7300 GT was a great card, until I updated it to newer Nvidia drivers. Nvidia turned that card from working, to defective.
I'm old enough to remember a time where it was hard to come by driver updates. You had to install via physical media. Somehow companies managed to deliver products that worked without being able to provide bug fixes anytime anywhere. Now we have fast internet and automatic drive installation, and it's worse?

Nvidia is a powerful giant in bed with an even bigger giant (Intel). They are not some amazing company, they just get all the profit to fund the majority of GPUs on the market.
Would be nice to see companies like EVGA sell other GPUs. I'd like to see more than just AMD and Nvidia as well.


If you would do some of your own research from google, you will come across some different articles saying that TSMC might be at fault, not Nvidia. TSMC manufactures the silicone chips for Nvidia, and the claim is out there that "they cannot produce the chips fast enough for these cards". But as a couple people have mentioned (they know who they are) said that you should take this information "as a grain of salt", but let me remind you there is no other information out there to explain why there is not enough stock available. And... "assuming" that you will ask why Nvidia is not giving you any information, they won't. Nvidia is not going to come out and admit any responsibility because of the GPUS not coming available. You will get the run-around. Good luck.
2016/06/30 18:17:25
glenn37216
brentsg
glenn37216
I miss the days before the internet. walk in brick and mortar store... walk out with Atari 2600. None of this pre-order selling crap delays of limited stocks.


There were plenty of limited stock items, scalping, etc in those days too.  You just had to show up at JC Penny or Montgomery Ward before they opened (on the days some teenager working there told you they might get stock) and fight thru a herd of people like it was Black Friday.  Scalpers used ads in the local paper. 
 
Only the technology has changed.


Never experienced it . Infact. there wasn't even a line at Kmart. In the mid 80's the only thing I fought over was a Cabbage patch doll. That was because someone punched me in the eye in the parking lot and tried to jack me of it. There was no line for Atari products though.... no commotion... just walk-in and buy from the stack. :P
2016/06/30 18:22:33
stalinx20
jfolds
Haha just giving an example : )

Another good example of what most of you are trying to make is Six-flags' lines are too long for the rides, and you guys want compensation for waiting in line. Is it their fault the lines are long? No.
2016/06/30 18:43:21
stalinx20
Scarlet-Tech
Stalin... to beat?  480 in CF is scoring 2200 points LOWER than one 1080, not higher... 


Yep... that's what they said. A lot of them are excited to see 2x 480s "compete" against a single 1080 (sorry, I meant compete, not "beat".). Taking the complaint from the majority of the people saying that SLI/CF can cause problems, or issues while gaming, does this not contradict what it is they are trying to do with 2x 480s, that being to compete against a single 1080? Sounds kind of hypocritical
2016/06/30 19:10:07
StrikeQ
stalinx20
Scarlet-Tech
Stalin... to beat?  480 in CF is scoring 2200 points LOWER than one 1080, not higher... 


Yep... that's what they said. A lot of them are excited to see 2x 480s "compete" against a single 1080 (sorry, I meant compete, not "beat".). Taking the complaint from the majority of the people saying that SLI/CF can cause problems, or issues while gaming, does this not contradict what it is they are trying to do with 2x 480s, that being to compete against a single 1080? Sounds kind of hypocritical




2x 480 will use more than double the power of 1 1080 too. Speculation that the power draw of the 480's can damage your motherboard as it pulls too much power from the PCIe slot.
2016/06/30 19:43:15
pocheche151
RandyRick
pocheche151
AMD showing nvidia how it's done when launching a new GPU. All retailers are well stocked already (those are RX480s btw)



Although a quick look-see at https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx480/
only shows ebay with cards in stock       a few estores taking pre-orders, and the usual suspects out of stock.
 
 




Yesterday they were mostly in stock, I checked.
2016/06/30 19:48:51
pocheche151
stalinx20
diftow
Henrynguyen20
lol you're right diftow, I feel confidence with evga, i never use AMD, only for all of my cousins build
i don't know why evga is short on demand this time. On the other hand,  msi 1080 and 1070 gaming x is in stock of Frys and microcenter already



It's Nvidia's fault, and it isn't the only issue I've had with Nvidia.

1. Charging people $50 for a license for "3D Play" on a $500 GPU. Just extortion right there.

2. Terrible drivers. Their drivers for Windows 10 were broken long after the official release had begun. And prior to Windows 10, I've experienced issues with games that were driver related as well, countless times. It wasn't the games either, it was Nvidia drivers. My old BFG 7300 GT was a great card, until I updated it to newer Nvidia drivers. Nvidia turned that card from working, to defective.
I'm old enough to remember a time where it was hard to come by driver updates. You had to install via physical media. Somehow companies managed to deliver products that worked without being able to provide bug fixes anytime anywhere. Now we have fast internet and automatic drive installation, and it's worse?

Nvidia is a powerful giant in bed with an even bigger giant (Intel). They are not some amazing company, they just get all the profit to fund the majority of GPUs on the market.
Would be nice to see companies like EVGA sell other GPUs. I'd like to see more than just AMD and Nvidia as well.


If you would do some of your own research from google, you will come across some different articles saying that TSMC might be at fault, not Nvidia. TSMC manufactures the silicone chips for Nvidia, and the claim is out there that "they cannot produce the chips fast enough for these cards". But as a couple people have mentioned (they know who they are) said that you should take this information "as a grain of salt", but let me remind you there is no other information out there to explain why there is not enough stock available. And... "assuming" that you will ask why Nvidia is not giving you any information, they won't. Nvidia is not going to come out and admit any responsibility because of the GPUS not coming available. You will get the run-around. Good luck.




They certainly didn't have an issue making those FE cards huh? It is clear they are trying to sell out on those FE cards before fully releasing the other models, after all FE = more profit for them
2016/06/30 19:53:14
glenn37216
There's already reports of bsod failures from the 480s on OCN. the PCI-e power draw problem is REAL.
- In the meantime , what about those SC shipments to B&H? eeeeellllloooo?

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