2016/07/11 08:40:20
CoercionShaman
Let's see here.
 
869   listing price
- 87  sale fee
- 26  PayPal fee
- 32  shipping fees (which may be low because of insurance and signature confirmation)
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724   remaining
 
$45 profit assuming they didn't pay taxes.  If they paid taxes, there goes $50 or more depending on your location making it about a break even deal for the seller.
 
That isn't a lot of profit for the seller even without taxes and in some instances accounts to allow for offers.  Some of these folks got multiple cards and then made a decision.  Not everyone is selling simply for a profit and don't have any other venue to sell on.
 
Just a thought.
2016/07/11 08:56:58
Cilph
The Ebay scalpers aren't half bad compared to EU pricing. Yes, EU pricing is THAT bad.
2016/07/11 08:57:16
rla1999
You could get one now and when there is more supply, get your second, third and forth.  I am not saying for you to never have SLI.  Just to help the other gamers who would like one 1070 or 1080 now who have been waiting a long time and for them to pay the proper price.  It would be unfair for you to get four while three other people are waiting for one.
2016/07/11 09:03:36
rla1999
CoercionShaman
Let's see here.
 
869   listing price
- 87  sale fee
- 26  PayPal fee
- 32  shipping fees (which may be low because of insurance and signature confirmation)
--------------------
724   remaining
 
$45 profit assuming they didn't pay taxes.  If they paid taxes, there goes $50 or more depending on your location making it about a break even deal for the seller.
 
That isn't a lot of profit for the seller even without taxes and in some instances accounts to allow for offers.  Some of these folks got multiple cards and then made a decision.  Not everyone is selling simply for a profit and don't have any other venue to sell on.
 
Just a thought.




yes, very little profit for sure.  But to some, that is enough to do this.  
 
Note that most 1080s being sold are brand new (sealed).  If they were used, I would not have a problem with it.   We all have a right to change our minds and sell our used items on these places.
2016/07/11 10:03:14
XC-Volcom
Have you seen the guy selling one for $2,000?

And sure, maybe they're not making that much profit but by placing themselves between the manufacturer and the consumer they create the cost of the middle man. They undoubtedly raise the cost to an amount that no one is willing to pay for unless the consumer needs it in a timely manner (which why would you need a graphics card so badly that you'd be willing to pay $200+ more for it?).

And if there isn't much room for profit (like $50 - $80) then why bother in the first place? It boggles my mind.
2016/07/11 10:10:15
XC-Volcom
No way man. With demand this high and so little stock you should get one. Not to mention that Nvidia is practically telling everyone that sli setups beyond two cards is ridiculous (and will be unsupported unless a company wants to go that route).

And if you really want two, then wait for two. But there's way too many people with 0 that want just 1, like myself.

To the point of price scalping, yes it's their legal right to be jerks, but this problem is much more serious in capitalist economies when you swap graphics cards for something like life saving medicine.
2016/07/11 10:12:02
rla1999
XC-Volcom
Have you seen the guy selling one for $2,000?

And sure, maybe they're not making that much profit but by placing themselves between the manufacturer and the consumer they create the cost of the middle man. They undoubtedly raise the cost to an amount that no one is willing to pay for unless the consumer needs it in a timely manner (which why would you need a graphics card so badly that you'd be willing to pay $200+ more for it?).

And if there isn't much room for profit (like $50 - $80) then why bother in the first place? It boggles my mind.



It's crazy.  But as long as some will pay for those asking prices they'll continue doing it.  It will decrease once there is more 1080s available for sale.  Some of those EBAY and Amazon sellers will end up selling for lower prices than what they got them for (that minus the fees of course).  It will be a lessons learned. 
2016/07/11 10:18:09
XC-Volcom
I can only hope they get burned. I chatted with the guy on amazon who was selling his for $1,200 and asked him why he thought price gouging the card was okay.

He basically told me that it's a "sellers market" and he can do what he wants.

I can't disagree, because it's legal. But I gave him flack for thinking anyone would pay for a card that is better than a titan x but with half the MSRP.

Price gouging the card defeats the purpose of the low cost high output of the card.
2016/07/11 10:20:50
XC-Volcom
What's the MSRP for a FTW in the EU? I bet it's not Australia bad but Canada's cards (just north of our damn country) has a $218 higher cost than if you bought it domestic.
2016/07/11 10:29:47
Parakiin
XC-Volcom
Price gouging the card defeats the purpose of the low cost high output of the card.



Honestly I don't know what the point of the Titan X is - maybe for people who need the professional-class stuff for rendering and such, I believe it's similar to the Quadro in that regard?
IIRC for gaming and typical home-user tasks the 980Ti scored about the same as the Titan X, which IMO renders (heh) the Titan pointless for home users. And the 1080 I believe has much higher performance than either.
 
XC-Volcom
What's the MSRP for a FTW in the EU? I bet it's not Australia bad but Canada's cards (just north of our damn country) has a $218 higher cost than if you bought it domestic.



I dunno what the MSRP is, but here are the prices (for the FTW) various e-tailors are currently listing at:
 
Overclockers UK: £668.99
Novatech: £699.60
Amazon: £668.99
Scan: £674.99
eBuyer: £722.99
Aria: £661.98
 
That's UK prices BTW. We're still (currently) part of the EU

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