2016/06/17 15:35:45
Chris21010
OK, i got a video for you to watch and i think you'll be as perplexed as i currently am about this power issue.
 
https://youtu.be/t8Iyp3BFF30
 
in short, if you want 100% GPU utilization you'll have to open a youtube video, pause it, and leave it there. otherwise it will drop right back down to ~60%.
 
i did this test after doing the clean driver install again when i got home, just to double make sure no issue there, and i also removed my second monitor, just to eliminate another variable.
 
EDIT: i think i'll run a couple units tonight after doing that workaround thing and see if and by how much the PPD may change.
2016/06/17 15:53:53
mdk7777777
OK,
You have an excellent demonstration of why many people are using LINUX for GPU FOLDING.
 
I'm not up on the details, but the problem seems to be with how windows allocates resources.
The more layers you go up from "bare metal" as they say, the greater your chance of loosing efficiency.
 
Gotta go now, see If I can find you a thread on the FF or slack later if I can find it.
2016/06/17 15:58:31
Chris21010
ya know if i wasn't a gamer i would try it on linux, but alas i must have my games. so i can not personally test this card on a lynix system unless i setup a dual boot for over night testing... not a bad idea, i'll give that a whirl and see if i can not get that to work tonight instead. any easy guide to setup F@H on linux? also which version of linux should i test with, Ubuntu?
 
EDIT: nm, stanford has a good guide on their website, looks simple enough on that side of things. now i just need to remember how to setup dual boots...

Edit2: this isn't as easy as I hoped... I got fahcontrol to run but it isn't seeing the GPU, so I look at what it takes to install a graphics driver and I face palm... why is nothing Linux touches simple or easy...
2016/06/17 19:07:59
mdk7777777
https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=28902#p286515
 
Sorry, don't do Linux. But here is the "updated" walk-through. :)
2016/06/17 19:14:59
Chris21010
welp, it failed... dont know why or how but linux will not happen on my machine. 4 hours dealing with code to get stuff to work and failing isn't something i am keen to. So, i'll simply force the GPU to 100% and test a few units overnight and see if that workaround lasts for extended periods of time or not.
 
also that link is to another thread i made about a completely different issue. that walk through just shows how to add multiple GPU's to the FAHControl.
2016/06/17 19:20:11
mdk7777777
Sorry, Like I said, I gave up on Linux years ago...just thought it might help with the drivers.
 
It will be interesting to see if the work around actually speed up folding, or if the drivers are just in a loop...increasing the load for the shut down vid.
 
time will tell.
2016/06/17 21:51:03
kram36
What's the fan noise like on this card? I have a EVGA GTX 970 ACX 2.0 and the fan noise is terrible. Have to fold it in a system in a closed room so I don't hear the fan noise. I have a MSI GTX 960 folding 24/7 in my front room and the fan noise isn't an issue. Wish I had not bought the EVGA GTX 970 ACX 2.0 and don't want to make the same mistake on another EVGA card.
2016/06/18 07:38:04
Chris21010
i can not answer that question as my PC sounds like a roaring dragon at all times and i have a box fan running as well.
 
secondly, the workaround did hold true all night though i only had time to finish the delayed unit and one other, that delayed unit i will not count but the other is listed with an asterix so we can see if it makes any difference.
2016/06/18 21:40:32
Chris21010
OK, ran another 9 units @100% power and the conclusion is at best a 10% improvement when directly comparing unit 9704 before and after. at worse only 5% improvement on the group avg if you remove the unusually high PPD unit 9205.
 
SO, those numbers should be good enough to say that at best a 1070 may get you around 600K PPD, after a little OCing.
2016/06/19 09:02:57
Chris21010
ok, last update. went ahead and simplified the numbers on first post as the difference between was minuscule at best and posted the unit ID and PPD for every completed unit over the last 3 days. its final avg is 569,252 PPD which is 28% lower than that of the 1080 numbers linked to on the first post. some other useful stats on the 1070 is its PPD per Watt at 150W full load is 3,795 and its PPD per USD spent is 1,294. On the other hand the 1080 has 4,423 PPD/W and 1,244 PPD/$. achieving nearly 30% higher PPD while only increasing its TDP by 17% the 1080 wins in efficiency but its basically tied in PPD over cost department.
 

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