2016/06/21 20:04:42
cmoney408
dont forget the extra 2 hdmi ports the gigabyte has built onto the card itself for VR use in the future!
 
i wonder if it uses the standard 3 pin fan header so the rad fan can be swapped out easily?
2016/06/22 01:12:27
USlatin
Sure, the Gigabyte looks good on paper, but it is ugly as sin and the Hybrid will likely be every bit as good. What I am waiting to see are the prices. 
 
Not worried about 100% watercooled vs air on the mosfets, since the PCB is going to be overkill, and so will be the air cooling when ALL of my hot air is exhausted out of the case. The only components adding heat to the air flowing around in my case will be CPU's mosfets, the South Bridge controller on the MoBo, the HDDs and the RAM plus any add on boards you may have like raid controllers, etc. None of that stuff gets hot *aside from some RAID controlers and other cards, but with cases like mine and likely all of yours if you are posting here, dissipating that heat will be a laughing matter. Plus with side panel intakes like I have the Hybrid gets fresh air... and the fan is big, so quiet
 
I'm glad to wait until I see a couple of trustworthy --comparison reviews-- not single reviews.
2016/06/22 02:01:41
tolagarf
seyumi
Wow I'm sorry to say this but that Gigabyte Hybrid model looks like it has the Evga Hybrid beat. This may actually be the first non EVGA GPU I've gotten in the past decade. These are the differences I'm seeing:
 
Gigabyte cools not only the GPU but the memory & mofsets (full liquid cooling not just a hybrid).
Gigabyte has 12+2 power phase versus 10+2 on the FTW/Hybrid
1936mhz boost on Gigabyte versus 1860 on the FTW/Hybrid
Gigabyte even has memory overclock as well when we know EVGA doesn't touch that ever
Both have 2x8 power pins
 
The EVGA one does look a lot better but I grew up out of the matching/cool looking interior phase long ago.
 
Evga model probably has better warranty and also will eventually have the quick disconnect system but not something needed on a GPU that doesn't go past 50c anyway on AIO water cooling.




Exactly how did you come to the conclusion that the Gigabyte Waterforce is fully water cooled, i.e. full cover block? As far as I know, it's just an extended copper plate that reaches on top of the VRAM and VRM, and only the GPU that has direct water flow, just like their 980 Ti model of the Waterforce. I'd want to see in depth pictures and reviews of this, before I believe it. 
2016/06/22 02:05:44
seyumi
tolagarf
 
 
Exactly how did you come to the conclusion that the Gigabyte Waterforce is fully water cooled, i.e. full cover block? As far as I know, it's just an extended copper plate that reaches on top of the VRAM and VRM, and only the GPU that has direct water flow, just like their 980 Ti model of the Waterforce. I'd want to see in depth pictures and reviews of this, before I believe it. 




Just look at the pictures bro. The copper plate on the Evga hybrids just covers the GPU core only. This one extends out on all sides to hit the memory and more on the right of the card to hit the mofsets. There isn't even a fan inside the card which EVGA uses to cool all that extra stuff. This is straight up an entire GPU water block but in the AIO package. 
 
http://www.gigabyte.com/p...-page.aspx?pid=5919#kf
 
Edit: yes there isn't water flowing throughout the whole thing so it won't beat an EK block or something but it's still just better than just the GPU core only. This will beat the Evga solution and I'm saying that with sadness.
2016/06/22 02:10:56
tolagarf
seyumi
tolagarf
 
 
Exactly how did you come to the conclusion that the Gigabyte Waterforce is fully water cooled, i.e. full cover block? As far as I know, it's just an extended copper plate that reaches on top of the VRAM and VRM, and only the GPU that has direct water flow, just like their 980 Ti model of the Waterforce. I'd want to see in depth pictures and reviews of this, before I believe it. 




Just look at the pictures bro. The copper plate on the Evga hybrids just covers the GPU core only. This one extends out on all sides to hit the memory and more on the right of the card to hit the mofsets. There isn't even a fan inside the card which EVGA uses to cool all that extra stuff. This is straight up an entire GPU water block but in the AIO package.
 
http://www.gigabyte.com/p...-page.aspx?pid=5919#kf




Yeah so? It's still not fully water cooled, it's just a copper plate that has direct contact with the water block, but that still doesn't make it a full cover water block. There is no water flowing over the VRAM og mosfets. And it's not really going to make a huge difference from the EVGA Hybrid, if any at all. 
2016/06/22 05:44:10
petmic10
tolagarf
seyumi
tolagarf
 
 
Exactly how did you come to the conclusion that the Gigabyte Waterforce is fully water cooled, i.e. full cover block? As far as I know, it's just an extended copper plate that reaches on top of the VRAM and VRM, and only the GPU that has direct water flow, just like their 980 Ti model of the Waterforce. I'd want to see in depth pictures and reviews of this, before I believe it. 




Just look at the pictures bro. The copper plate on the Evga hybrids just covers the GPU core only. This one extends out on all sides to hit the memory and more on the right of the card to hit the mofsets. There isn't even a fan inside the card which EVGA uses to cool all that extra stuff. This is straight up an entire GPU water block but in the AIO package.
 
http://www.gigabyte.com/p...-page.aspx?pid=5919#kf




Yeah so? It's still not fully water cooled, it's just a copper plate that has direct contact with the water block, but that still doesn't make it a full cover water block. There is no water flowing over the VRAM og mosfets. And it's not really going to make a huge difference from the EVGA Hybrid, if any at all.



I like what Gigabyte is doing with the Waterforce though. Copper is the preferred cold plate material for cooling systems. Like most metals however, copper doesn't hold heat for very long, it needs to be absorbed by something else. Water is the best liquid for holding heat. And, it is also the best for transferring it. It's basic Heat Transfer and it happens to work well. Obviously a full water block would have been the ideal solution but that is what EK is for.
 
More than likely, you are correct. The differences will be minimal but the more options for we as customers the better.
 
 
 
 
 
2016/06/22 05:48:02
PasTecHi
next week boys...next week we will see stats....
2016/06/22 05:48:33
tolagarf
petmic10
tolagarf
seyumi
tolagarf
 
 
Exactly how did you come to the conclusion that the Gigabyte Waterforce is fully water cooled, i.e. full cover block? As far as I know, it's just an extended copper plate that reaches on top of the VRAM and VRM, and only the GPU that has direct water flow, just like their 980 Ti model of the Waterforce. I'd want to see in depth pictures and reviews of this, before I believe it. 




Just look at the pictures bro. The copper plate on the Evga hybrids just covers the GPU core only. This one extends out on all sides to hit the memory and more on the right of the card to hit the mofsets. There isn't even a fan inside the card which EVGA uses to cool all that extra stuff. This is straight up an entire GPU water block but in the AIO package.
 
http://www.gigabyte.com/p...-page.aspx?pid=5919#kf




Yeah so? It's still not fully water cooled, it's just a copper plate that has direct contact with the water block, but that still doesn't make it a full cover water block. There is no water flowing over the VRAM og mosfets. And it's not really going to make a huge difference from the EVGA Hybrid, if any at all.



I like what Gigabyte is doing with the Waterforce though. Copper is the preferred cold plate material for cooling systems. Like most metals however, copper doesn't hold heat for very long, it needs to be absorbed by something else. Water is the best liquid for holding heat. And, it is also the best for transferring it. It's basic Heat Transfer and it happens to work well. Obviously a full water block would have been the ideal solution but that is what EK is for.
 
More than likely, you are correct. The differences will be minimal but the more options for we as customers the better.
 
 
 
 
 




Yeah sure. I don't mind it being fanless at all, I guess I'm just not too hyped about the design of the shroud on the graphics card. It isn't very neutral like EVGA's seem to be.
2016/06/22 06:02:08
petmic10
tolagarf
Yeah sure. I don't mind it being fanless at all, I guess I'm just not too hyped about the design of the shroud on the graphics card. It isn't very neutral like EVGA's seem to be.



I hear you. I agree, the orange on the Gigabyte is kind of in your face. lol
 
Some users on Newegg are claiming the air cooled version of the Gigabyte Xtreme are boosting over 2000MHz without touching anything. They are just putting in OC mode.
 
http://www.newegg.com/Pro..._-14-125-873-_-Product
2016/06/22 06:47:27
zlpw0ker
I agree here.
I think its great that evga gets competition,but the rgb LED kills it for me when it comes to gpu's. 
I also like the vga card to be neutral in color schemes.I accidently got a black and white theme going on in my case,but I want a gpu that is powerful,but yet very cooled. I dont care for OC so the stock temps on idle and under load has to be lowest as possible when it comes to aio solution.
and since seahawk 1080 was little overclocked and there have higher temps than evga 1080 hybrid I think I will go for the hybrid. But since the hybrid comes in stock that suits me better.
But if the temps on the 1080 isnt lower or the same as fury x I will try 980ti and or maybe I will buy back the fury X.

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