2016/10/25 21:30:31
raincloudx
Nereus
raincloudx
Does anyone know if the 1080 FTW Hybrids are impacted by the VRM issue on the other FTW models?


If you are talking about the black screen, 100% fan issue requiring reboot, then yes, my first 1080 FTW Hybrid had this issue, but that was back in August. This issue has since been resolved to my knowledge, and I have not myself seen any posts recently from 1080 FTW Hybrid owners complaining of this issue.
 

 
Thanks for your reply, sorry I meant the recent VRM overheating issue. 
2016/10/26 10:02:20
silixx
raincloudx
Nereus
raincloudx
Does anyone know if the 1080 FTW Hybrids are impacted by the VRM issue on the other FTW models?


If you are talking about the black screen, 100% fan issue requiring reboot, then yes, my first 1080 FTW Hybrid had this issue, but that was back in August. This issue has since been resolved to my knowledge, and I have not myself seen any posts recently from 1080 FTW Hybrid owners complaining of this issue.
 

 
Thanks for your reply, sorry I meant the recent VRM overheating issue. 


whats the vrm overheating issue?:P im owner of a 1080 hybrid aswell is there anything specific i should be aware?
2016/10/26 16:16:19
raincloudx
silixx
raincloudx
Nereus
raincloudx
Does anyone know if the 1080 FTW Hybrids are impacted by the VRM issue on the other FTW models?


If you are talking about the black screen, 100% fan issue requiring reboot, then yes, my first 1080 FTW Hybrid had this issue, but that was back in August. This issue has since been resolved to my knowledge, and I have not myself seen any posts recently from 1080 FTW Hybrid owners complaining of this issue.
 

 
Thanks for your reply, sorry I meant the recent VRM overheating issue. 


whats the vrm overheating issue?:P im owner of a 1080 hybrid aswell is there anything specific i should be aware?




This one:

 
"After users' reports (and  testing) of EVGA FTW 1080 and 1070 cards displaying , and sometimes even , even at stock voltage, the company is now moving towards fixing the issue.

Apparently, the issue stems from the absence of any thermal pads over the VRM area of the FTW line of cards, which prompts higher operating temperatures. Some users were reporting heat transfer in such quantities that even the GDDR5X memory chips on the cards were being heated at 107 ºC, significantly over their rated operating temperatures of (0°C ≤ TC ≤ +95°C)"
 
2016/10/26 19:51:07
jlp209
raincloudx
Does anyone know if the 1080 FTW Hybrids are impacted by the VRM issue on the other FTW models?


I emailed tech support about this and was told that the 1080 FTW Hybrid isn't affected by this issue. If you try to sign up to get the thermal pads, a box will pop up that will tell you your card isn't eligible for the pads. Check out the tear down of the Hybrid, which shows / explains the VRM cooling.
 
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2582-evga-gtx-1080-ftw-hybrid-review-vs-sea-hawk-x?showall=1
 
2016/10/28 10:38:04
CptSpig
MikeBGeyer
My hybrid kit DG-86 build


Very nice love the EVGA case!
2016/10/28 15:26:04
Angier_1985
raincloudx
silixx
raincloudx
Nereus
raincloudx
Does anyone know if the 1080 FTW Hybrids are impacted by the VRM issue on the other FTW models?


If you are talking about the black screen, 100% fan issue requiring reboot, then yes, my first 1080 FTW Hybrid had this issue, but that was back in August. This issue has since been resolved to my knowledge, and I have not myself seen any posts recently from 1080 FTW Hybrid owners complaining of this issue.
 

 
Thanks for your reply, sorry I meant the recent VRM overheating issue. 


whats the vrm overheating issue?:P im owner of a 1080 hybrid aswell is there anything specific i should be aware?




This one:

 
"After users' reports (and  testing) of EVGA FTW 1080 and 1070 cards displaying , and sometimes even , even at stock voltage, the company is now moving towards fixing the issue.

Apparently, the issue stems from the absence of any thermal pads over the VRM area of the FTW line of cards, which prompts higher operating temperatures. Some users were reporting heat transfer in such quantities that even the GDDR5X memory chips on the cards were being heated at 107 ºC, significantly over their rated operating temperatures of (0°C ≤ TC ≤ +95°C)"
 


The affected area is actively cooled with a hybrid so this issue is unlikely to arise with them. The FTW has had NO heat dissipation mechanic at all in place for the VRM by design. EVGA has repoted this to be within specs but since the hybrid is actively cooled I kinda see a contradiction there.
2016/11/01 03:52:13
Vlada011
I hope EVGA will launch GTX1080Ti same as GTX1080 FTW Hybrid. 
This card is something nicest I saw last 2-3 years, I mean on graphic cards. 
And off course new EVGA Hydro Copper look excellent from the top with backplate.
 
EVGA change box for this year, this shape attract me as well.
 

 
Great card. 
With EVGA GTX1080 or maybe even GTX1080Ti I hope my PC will be very powerful for my need. 
 
 
 
 
2016/11/01 05:58:36
Iluv2raceit
jlp209
raincloudx
Does anyone know if the 1080 FTW Hybrids are impacted by the VRM issue on the other FTW models?


I emailed tech support about this and was told that the 1080 FTW Hybrid isn't affected by this issue. If you try to sign up to get the thermal pads, a box will pop up that will tell you your card isn't eligible for the pads. Check out the tear down of the Hybrid, which shows / explains the VRM cooling.
 
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2582-evga-gtx-1080-ftw-hybrid-review-vs-sea-hawk-x?showall=1
 


What I find disturbing about EVGA's response that the GTX1080 FTW Hybrid is not affected.  I checked myself using a high intensity LED flash light and confirmed that the my FTW Hybrid card does NOT have a thermal pad in place that covers the backside of the VRMs and makes contact with the back plate.  Nothing but air space between, which is bad.  I have already ordered thermal pads and will put them in place to ensure adequate cooling of the VRMs.   Better safe than sorry is my motto.  Still, it pisses me off a bit that EVGA really feels they have to cut corners on thermal pads that cost only a $1 or so.  The assumption that the use of a Hybrid cooler will negate the VRMs from overheating is short sightedness at best.  And interestingly enough, the EKWB back plate for my water cooled Titan XP does have a thermal pad that is provided to transfer the heat from the VRMs to the back plate.  So, why doesn't EVGA offer the same solution for the FTW Hybrid cards as well??
2016/11/01 08:34:28
jlp209
Iluv2raceit
 
What I find disturbing about EVGA's response that the GTX1080 FTW Hybrid is not affected.  I checked myself using a high intensity LED flash light and confirmed that the my FTW Hybrid card does NOT have a thermal pad in place that covers the backside of the VRMs and makes contact with the back plate.  Nothing but air space between, which is bad.  I have already ordered thermal pads and will put them in place to ensure adequate cooling of the VRMs.   Better safe than sorry is my motto.  Still, it pisses me off a bit that EVGA really feels they have to cut corners on thermal pads that cost only a $1 or so.  The assumption that the use of a Hybrid cooler will negate the VRMs from overheating is short sightedness at best.  And interestingly enough, the EKWB back plate for my water cooled Titan XP does have a thermal pad that is provided to transfer the heat from the VRMs to the back plate.  So, why doesn't EVGA offer the same solution for the FTW Hybrid cards as well??

Were you able to order the thermal pads from EVGA or did you get generic ones that will fit? My latest card / 3rd FTW Hybrid (also had a Classified) has been the most stable by far. I am very curious why it is so different. Prior cards, aside from black screen + fans 100%, would always hit power + voltage limit at same time causing massive downclocking, while temps stayed under 65 degrees. At stock I'd boost to 2025 mhz and still got downclocked to 2012 mhz and 2000 mhz for no reason that made sense to me (on a Hybrid with temps under 60 degrees). Maybe it was related to inadequate VRM cooling, I'll never know.
 
The Classified I had hit the temp limit in Precision (also at different times hit voltage and power limit), yet the core never went over 65 degrees. Maybe that had something to do with the VRM issue. Bizarre behavior, returned it to Microcenter. 
 
My current FTW Hybrid stays at 2113 mhz regardless of game or benchmark almost all the time, with the occasional dip down to 2101 mhz. But even when that happens, I've never hit voltage, temp, or power limit. A down clock of 12 mhz / 1 bin is normal and what my prior cards should've been doing. So confused by my experiences so far, definitely the most issues I've ever had with any GPU ever. EVGA support has been great though, luckily. 
2016/11/01 12:41:53
Iluv2raceit
jlp209
Iluv2raceit
 
What I find disturbing about EVGA's response that the GTX1080 FTW Hybrid is not affected.  I checked myself using a high intensity LED flash light and confirmed that the my FTW Hybrid card does NOT have a thermal pad in place that covers the backside of the VRMs and makes contact with the back plate.  Nothing but air space between, which is bad.  I have already ordered thermal pads and will put them in place to ensure adequate cooling of the VRMs.   Better safe than sorry is my motto.  Still, it pisses me off a bit that EVGA really feels they have to cut corners on thermal pads that cost only a $1 or so.  The assumption that the use of a Hybrid cooler will negate the VRMs from overheating is short sightedness at best.  And interestingly enough, the EKWB back plate for my water cooled Titan XP does have a thermal pad that is provided to transfer the heat from the VRMs to the back plate.  So, why doesn't EVGA offer the same solution for the FTW Hybrid cards as well??

Were you able to order the thermal pads from EVGA or did you get generic ones that will fit? My latest card / 3rd FTW Hybrid (also had a Classified) has been the most stable by far. I am very curious why it is so different. Prior cards, aside from black screen + fans 100%, would always hit power + voltage limit at same time causing massive downclocking, while temps stayed under 65 degrees. At stock I'd boost to 2025 mhz and still got downclocked to 2012 mhz and 2000 mhz for no reason that made sense to me (on a Hybrid with temps under 60 degrees). Maybe it was related to inadequate VRM cooling, I'll never know.
 
The Classified I had hit the temp limit in Precision (also at different times hit voltage and power limit), yet the core never went over 65 degrees. Maybe that had something to do with the VRM issue. Bizarre behavior, returned it to Microcenter. 
 
My current FTW Hybrid stays at 2113 mhz regardless of game or benchmark almost all the time, with the occasional dip down to 2101 mhz. But even when that happens, I've never hit voltage, temp, or power limit. A down clock of 12 mhz / 1 bin is normal and what my prior cards should've been doing. So confused by my experiences so far, definitely the most issues I've ever had with any GPU ever. EVGA support has been great though, luckily. 


The issue has nothing to do with GPU temps and is directly associated with the VRM temperatures, which are not monitored by the card's BIOS or any other tool for that matter since there are no thermostats near the VRMs.  This is something altogether a different problem that is fortunately easily fixed by just applying some thermal pads to the back of the PCB so that the heat can be dissipated through the back plate.  EVGA would not allow for me to submit the request for the thermal pads, so I had to order them from Amazon.

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