Berga
Gave in and got myself a Titan X. Sorry EVGA. I usually have good patience but waiting 4 months was a bit too much even for me. Jacob said that the Hybrid is just around the corner, so I hope it comes next week for all of you with even more patience :)

Considering I just received an RMA 1080 Hybrid yesterday after waiting about 10 days for more stock to come in, I'd imagine new stock should be available any moment, although it'll probably get sold out in less than an hour lol. I'm sure you'll be very happy with the Titan X anyway (you got the new pascal model I assume).
 
 

Nereus

Berga
Gave in and got myself a Titan X. Sorry EVGA. I usually have good patience but waiting 4 months was a bit too much even for me. Jacob said that the Hybrid is just around the corner, so I hope it comes next week for all of you with even more patience :)

Considering I just received an RMA 1080 Hybrid yesterday after waiting about 10 days for more stock to come in, I'd imagine new stock should be available any moment, although it'll probably get sold out in less than an hour lol. I'm sure you'll be very happy with the Titan X anyway (you got the new pascal model I assume).
 
 

Yes I got the Titan X Pascal. Only thing that actually held me back on the Titan before was the lack of AIO Water Coolers compatible with it. But I've now decided to go with a custom EKWB solution. First time for it too :) Would so gladly have bought a Hybrid kit if EVGA was to make them. But the Water Block will be an investment for next month since my wallet is now echoing empty hehe. Will have to live with a noisey card for a month (but graphics will be stellar).

Yeah I deeply hope for everyone else that the Hybrids are coming this week or the next.

Another reason why I got the Titan XP is from all the benchmark and reviews it seems like the 1080 doesn't really max out on fps (144hz) with ultra settings in most games. The Titan XP seem to actually do that. And if I'm gonna spend that much money on a card and not get top end, I might as well pay a bit more and be satisfied. Yeah the Titan XP is a very, very expensive card. But the 1080 would be a very expensive disappointment instead. At least for me.

Peace

Berga of Sweden

Berga

Nereus

Berga
Gave in and got myself a Titan X. Sorry EVGA. I usually have good patience but waiting 4 months was a bit too much even for me. Jacob said that the Hybrid is just around the corner, so I hope it comes next week for all of you with even more patience :)

Considering I just received an RMA 1080 Hybrid yesterday after waiting about 10 days for more stock to come in, I'd imagine new stock should be available any moment, although it'll probably get sold out in less than an hour lol. I'm sure you'll be very happy with the Titan X anyway (you got the new pascal model I assume).
 
 

Yes I got the Titan X Pascal. Only thing that actually held me back on the Titan before was the lack of AIO Water Coolers compatible with it. But I've now decided to go with a custom EKWB solution. First time for it too :) Would so gladly have bought a Hybrid kit if EVGA was to make them. But the Water Block will be an investment for next month since my wallet is now echoing empty hehe. Will have to live with a noisey card for a month (but graphics will be stellar).

Yeah I deeply hope for everyone else that the Hybrids are coming this week or the next.

Another reason why I got the Titan XP is from all the benchmark and reviews it seems like the 1080 doesn't really max out on fps (144hz) with ultra settings in most games. The Titan XP seem to actually do that. And if I'm gonna spend that much money on a card and not get top end, I might as well pay a bit more and be satisfied. Yeah the Titan XP is a very, very expensive card. But the 1080 would be a very expensive disappointment instead. At least for me.

Peace

Berga of Sweden

From what I've heard, you won't be disappointed. Enjoy!
 

sputnik7913

cmoney408

sputnik7913
I just don't get the purpose of hybrid card... wasn't water cooling mean to eliminate dust collecting/noisy fans that are inferior in cooling??? What's all the hype? Why not just wait for HydroCopper? Which is superior in cooling, no dust, no noise....

lower temps and less noise. lower temps = more stable and higher boost clocks and OC's; while running cooler then fanned cards.
 
noisy fans, yes, i always replace stock rad fans. get higher quality fans that move more air while making less noise. i recommend noctua nf-f12's
 
i never heard anyone mention the dust collecting, that has to do with your case, air pressure and filters. hydro copper is still going to require a rad with a fan on it. same with this scenario, make sure you get quality fans!
 
though, yes the hydro removes the cards fan. BUT, with the hybrid cards it is normal to keep the cards fan at much lower speeds then it would be if you wasnt hydro. for instance my 980ti fan is set to never go above 35%. you can hear it under 40%. on top of that the hydro is going to cost much more when you add a pump, tubes, ran and fan.
 
 

I don't think you answered my question... What are advantages of Hybrid, over HydroCopper, which has a superior cooling and 0 noise?

i think you may have be confused on what the hydrocopper is. the picture shows a card with a hard casing over it. thats what you get from evga, but that is an incomplete card. if you plugged in the hydro, as it is in the picture, and played a game, your card would burn out. the hydro is meant for people who already have a custom loop. if you look at pictures of the unit, you see a little block hanging off the card with 2 circle plugs. those plugs are where you connect your custom loop/tubing.
 
so the hydo requires you to also buy a pump, fittings, tubes, rad and rad fans to have it function properly. with the hydro you are still in the same boat as with the hybrid; you still have the same cons (dust, fans, noise). except with the hydro you are also going to spend hundreds more on the extra parts. custom loops require yearly maintenance as well.
 
the hydro is the same as buying a regular fanned card and then getting an aftermarket waterblock (like ek sells).
 
the advantage of the hydro is that it comes with a water block already assembled and ready to drop in a case with a custom loop. 
 
the advantage of a custom loop: the potential for lower temps (if you have more/larger/thicker rads and high end fans). and the looks (if you have colored/hard tubing). 
 
beyond that it is pretty much agreed that custom loops are 90% aesthetics (10% performance gains). you are paying for looks, not performance. 
 
all that being said, i do one day want a custom loop, but for now a h100i on my cpu and hybrid GPU's is the most cost effective (bang for buck) setup for me.

Nereus
 
Zero maintenance.
 

close.  clean the radiator & fans periodically. 

trilegdog

Nereus
 
Zero maintenance.
 

close.  clean the radiator & fans periodically. 

:) true that.


 

cmoney408

sputnik7913

cmoney408

sputnik7913
I just don't get the purpose of hybrid card... wasn't water cooling mean to eliminate dust collecting/noisy fans that are inferior in cooling??? What's all the hype? Why not just wait for HydroCopper? Which is superior in cooling, no dust, no noise....

lower temps and less noise. lower temps = more stable and higher boost clocks and OC's; while running cooler then fanned cards.
 
noisy fans, yes, i always replace stock rad fans. get higher quality fans that move more air while making less noise. i recommend noctua nf-f12's
 
i never heard anyone mention the dust collecting, that has to do with your case, air pressure and filters. hydro copper is still going to require a rad with a fan on it. same with this scenario, make sure you get quality fans!
 
though, yes the hydro removes the cards fan. BUT, with the hybrid cards it is normal to keep the cards fan at much lower speeds then it would be if you wasnt hydro. for instance my 980ti fan is set to never go above 35%. you can hear it under 40%. on top of that the hydro is going to cost much more when you add a pump, tubes, ran and fan.
 
 

I don't think you answered my question... What are advantages of Hybrid, over HydroCopper, which has a superior cooling and 0 noise?

i think you may have be confused on what the hydrocopper is. the picture shows a card with a hard casing over it. thats what you get from evga, but that is an incomplete card. if you plugged in the hydro, as it is in the picture, and played a game, your card would burn out. the hydro is meant for people who already have a custom loop. if you look at pictures of the unit, you see a little block hanging off the card with 2 circle plugs. those plugs are where you connect your custom loop/tubing.
 
so the hydo requires you to also buy a pump, fittings, tubes, rad and rad fans to have it function properly. with the hydro you are still in the same boat as with the hybrid; you still have the same cons (dust, fans, noise). except with the hydro you are also going to spend hundreds more on the extra parts. custom loops require yearly maintenance as well.
 
the hydro is the same as buying a regular fanned card and then getting an aftermarket waterblock (like ek sells).
 
the advantage of the hydro is that it comes with a water block already assembled and ready to drop in a case with a custom loop. 
 
the advantage of a custom loop: the potential for lower temps (if you have more/larger/thicker rads and high end fans). and the looks (if you have colored/hard tubing). 
 
beyond that it is pretty much agreed that custom loops are 90% aesthetics (10% performance gains). you are paying for looks, not performance. 
 
all that being said, i do one day want a custom loop, but for now a h100i on my cpu and hybrid GPU's is the most cost effective (bang for buck) setup for me.

This is very valuable information. I was very close to getting a custom loop thinking it would be cooler, and I read very similar information and decided to go hybrid.

cmoney408

sputnik7913

cmoney408

sputnik7913
I just don't get the purpose of hybrid card... wasn't water cooling mean to eliminate dust collecting/noisy fans that are inferior in cooling??? What's all the hype? Why not just wait for HydroCopper? Which is superior in cooling, no dust, no noise....

lower temps and less noise. lower temps = more stable and higher boost clocks and OC's; while running cooler then fanned cards.
 
noisy fans, yes, i always replace stock rad fans. get higher quality fans that move more air while making less noise. i recommend noctua nf-f12's
 
i never heard anyone mention the dust collecting, that has to do with your case, air pressure and filters. hydro copper is still going to require a rad with a fan on it. same with this scenario, make sure you get quality fans!
 
though, yes the hydro removes the cards fan. BUT, with the hybrid cards it is normal to keep the cards fan at much lower speeds then it would be if you wasnt hydro. for instance my 980ti fan is set to never go above 35%. you can hear it under 40%. on top of that the hydro is going to cost much more when you add a pump, tubes, ran and fan.
 
 

I don't think you answered my question... What are advantages of Hybrid, over HydroCopper, which has a superior cooling and 0 noise?

i think you may have be confused on what the hydrocopper is. the picture shows a card with a hard casing over it. thats what you get from evga, but that is an incomplete card. if you plugged in the hydro, as it is in the picture, and played a game, your card would burn out. the hydro is meant for people who already have a custom loop. if you look at pictures of the unit, you see a little block hanging off the card with 2 circle plugs. those plugs are where you connect your custom loop/tubing.
 
so the hydo requires you to also buy a pump, fittings, tubes, rad and rad fans to have it function properly. with the hydro you are still in the same boat as with the hybrid; you still have the same cons (dust, fans, noise). except with the hydro you are also going to spend hundreds more on the extra parts. custom loops require yearly maintenance as well.
 
the hydro is the same as buying a regular fanned card and then getting an aftermarket waterblock (like ek sells).
 
the advantage of the hydro is that it comes with a water block already assembled and ready to drop in a case with a custom loop. 
 
the advantage of a custom loop: the potential for lower temps (if you have more/larger/thicker rads and high end fans). and the looks (if you have colored/hard tubing). 
 
beyond that it is pretty much agreed that custom loops are 90% aesthetics (10% performance gains). you are paying for looks, not performance. 
 
all that being said, i do one day want a custom loop, but for now a h100i on my cpu and hybrid GPU's is the most cost effective (bang for buck) setup for me.

I might have a slight understanding what HydroCopper is, but thanks anyway... I guess savings is a big enough point is success of that card, I guess i'm just not a fan of that concept.... I/m fine with the closed loop fact, but why add a fan to it?

sputnik7913

cmoney408

sputnik7913

cmoney408

sputnik7913
I just don't get the purpose of hybrid card... wasn't water cooling mean to eliminate dust collecting/noisy fans that are inferior in cooling??? What's all the hype? Why not just wait for HydroCopper? Which is superior in cooling, no dust, no noise....

lower temps and less noise. lower temps = more stable and higher boost clocks and OC's; while running cooler then fanned cards.
 
noisy fans, yes, i always replace stock rad fans. get higher quality fans that move more air while making less noise. i recommend noctua nf-f12's
 
i never heard anyone mention the dust collecting, that has to do with your case, air pressure and filters. hydro copper is still going to require a rad with a fan on it. same with this scenario, make sure you get quality fans!
 
though, yes the hydro removes the cards fan. BUT, with the hybrid cards it is normal to keep the cards fan at much lower speeds then it would be if you wasnt hydro. for instance my 980ti fan is set to never go above 35%. you can hear it under 40%. on top of that the hydro is going to cost much more when you add a pump, tubes, ran and fan.
 
 

I don't think you answered my question... What are advantages of Hybrid, over HydroCopper, which has a superior cooling and 0 noise?

i think you may have be confused on what the hydrocopper is. the picture shows a card with a hard casing over it. thats what you get from evga, but that is an incomplete card. if you plugged in the hydro, as it is in the picture, and played a game, your card would burn out. the hydro is meant for people who already have a custom loop. if you look at pictures of the unit, you see a little block hanging off the card with 2 circle plugs. those plugs are where you connect your custom loop/tubing.
 
so the hydo requires you to also buy a pump, fittings, tubes, rad and rad fans to have it function properly. with the hydro you are still in the same boat as with the hybrid; you still have the same cons (dust, fans, noise). except with the hydro you are also going to spend hundreds more on the extra parts. custom loops require yearly maintenance as well.
 
the hydro is the same as buying a regular fanned card and then getting an aftermarket waterblock (like ek sells).
 
the advantage of the hydro is that it comes with a water block already assembled and ready to drop in a case with a custom loop. 
 
the advantage of a custom loop: the potential for lower temps (if you have more/larger/thicker rads and high end fans). and the looks (if you have colored/hard tubing). 
 
beyond that it is pretty much agreed that custom loops are 90% aesthetics (10% performance gains). you are paying for looks, not performance. 
 
all that being said, i do one day want a custom loop, but for now a h100i on my cpu and hybrid GPU's is the most cost effective (bang for buck) setup for me.

I might have a slight understanding what HydroCopper is, but thanks anyway... I guess savings is a big enough point is success of that card, I guess i'm just not a fan of that concept.... I/m fine with the closed loop fact, but why add a fan to it?

whats not in your picture is a radiator with a fan or 2 on it that is REQUIRED for the hydro to function.
 
if you are saying hydro is better then hybrid because there is no fan on the card itself, i would say that is the least important benefit of the hydro.
 
again. yes the hybrid has a fan on the card, BUT, since its a hydro, you should manually set the fan on the card to never run above 30-40% (i think mine is set to like 35% max on a 980ti). but on a 1080, you can probably get away with setting it to a max of 25-35% (since vram is now also cooled by radiator). at 40% fan speed you will NEVER hear it. so at that point, it would only be aesthetics in the fact that the card looks thicker then the hydro. 
 
on a reference card, you have to let the fan on the card go up to whatever it wants/needs (up to 100%) if you want consistent boost clocks and fps. on the hybrid, the hybrid system is doing 99% of the cooling work, cooling the GPU, the only reason they left a fan on the card is technically for vram. even though in the 1080 hybrid, the vram is now also cooled by the hybrid system as well. on the 980ti and older, the vram was only cooled by the on board fan. 
 
other brands 1080 hybrids have removed their on board fan all together. wont be surprised if evga eventually releases a fanless hybrid (but again, it would still require a fan on the radiator). it would be nice to see someone do testing on the 1080 hybrid. test temps with fan off, 10%, 20%, 30%. i am betting money that anything above 30% will not gain benefits. 
 
so, copper + $200 in parts = no fan on card.
hybrid + nothing else = fan on card that you will never hear 

Nereus

Berga
Gave in and got myself a Titan X. Sorry EVGA. I usually have good patience but waiting 4 months was a bit too much even for me. Jacob said that the Hybrid is just around the corner, so I hope it comes next week for all of you with even more patience :)

Considering I just received an RMA 1080 Hybrid yesterday after waiting about 10 days for more stock to come in, I'd imagine new stock should be available any moment, although it'll probably get sold out in less than an hour lol. I'm sure you'll be very happy with the Titan X anyway (you got the new pascal model I assume).
 
 

It's unfortunate there are such issues with the EVGA 1080 hybrids and the lack of re-supply.  I was really considering getting a Titan XP, but I made what some may think is an odd choice - I instead went for two 1080 hybrid SeaHawks.  I know there's issues with SLI, I know the cooling system is different than EVGA's...but I am willing to take the "risk" according to most testing (for gaming, which is my only intentions) the FPS difference and temperature difference on load is negligible.  
 
I just wasn't happy with the Titan XP performance at 4K benchmarks.  It's very reminiscent to my current GTX 970 at 1080p: a lot of time at 60fps, but it dips into the 40's and 50's when there's enough demand placed on it.  For $1,500, I can't accept that same variation at 4K gaming.  With the two 1080's, it's solid 60 FPS or higher...same price tag (roughly) plus no need to patchwork a 1080 hybrid cooling system and risk ruining a Titan XP.