2016/09/16 12:15:01
AHowes
Little advise from someone that's been around the block with 11 different 1080 cards trying to find 2 to play together.. buy the Titan xp and block forsure as the blower fan cooler is not going to cool it andoesn't call it done. Save yourself a lot of time thinking about it and issues dealing with finding a block to match your 1080 and the end result of overclocking poorly.

Out of 3 classifieds 1 is good the other 2 had voltage limit issues which I was told was basically the chip was not a good performer and could not be pushed past default clocks.

Returning the 2nd one is a row today.. might grab 2 evga 1080 sc cards with blocks this time but I'm trying to talk myself out of taking the gamble of a turd 1080 again. Granted the fe cards usually will run 2050-2100+ overclocked but will the clocks will bounce all over the place from that single 8 pin connector and or the limited 5 phase power compared to custom cards like the classified that gives you overkill 14+3 phase power or the ftw with its 12+2 phases power.

With all that said your still limited by the silicon lottery with the chip itself. So all that extra overkill power regulation would mean squat if your chip don't wana budge over 2k.

So in the end the Titan is already well ahead of the game from the 1080 and if she overclocks it will really take off more then a overclocked 1080.
2016/09/16 13:23:37
sethleigh
lazarus83
You are right, I need to just get a card and slap a waterblock on it.  I originally had the gtx 480 hydrocopper but i got to do the stepup and got a reference gtx 580 that I put a massive copper waterblock on.  I am hesitant to get the gtx 1080 ftw because of all the forums reporting black screen issues.  I may just hold out for a classified ek block but i have a feeling that will just be the hydrocopper edition.  One of my coworkers talked me down last night from going balls deep and just ordering the titan xp and getting the block for it.

Nah man, go for it! Don't be talked down from that ledge! If you have the money, I'm sure you'd love the Titan XP with a water block on it. EK has already released one. If you don't want to go with the Titan though then yeah, just pick a 1080 (hopefully from EVGA), slap an EK or other water block on it, and drive on. I have no idea why EVGA hasn't been able to deliver this yet. I am a big EVGA fan, and I truly want them to succeed, and have put my own money where my mouth is (I'm on my third EVGA video card that I can remember, my second EVGA motherboard, and an EVGA power supply), but for whatever reasons they can't seem to get their hydro copper out. So wait if you really want to, but there are great solutions available right now. The only thing (besides lack of money...) making me hesitate to pull the trigger on another 1080 SC/EK combo is worry that I might not do as well in the silicon lottery on a second 1080 SC as I seem to have done on the first one. Oh, and curiosity about what EVGA will release in a few months. There is that.
2016/09/16 13:31:01
sethleigh
AHowes
Granted the fe cards usually will run 2050-2100+ overclocked but will the clocks will bounce all over the place from that single 8 pin connector and or the limited 5 phase power compared to custom cards like the classified that gives you overkill 14+3 phase power or the ftw with its 12+2 phases power.

With all that said your still limited by the silicon lottery with the chip itself. So all that extra overkill power regulation would mean squat if your chip don't wana budge over 2k.

I think about that, and worry that a second 1080 SC wouldn't turn out as well as my first one did, but two things make me think more positively about this:
 
1) we typically hear more of the bad than of the good on boards like this, so I'm not convinced the 1080 dud situation is as bad as it's made out to be, and
 
2) in SLI I'd probably be very satisfied with cards even if they don't clock as well as my 1080 SC does right now. I run this at 2139Mhz rock stable in various games and benchmarks (2152 but not rock stable), but with SLI I'd probably be more than satisfied just running the pair at 2025 or 2050. I mean, for my purposes, that would be a dream solution. I push for 2139 right now only because I have a single card and am not quite there yet for 4k/60 in some games. For lots of games though I'm well past 4K/60 with the single card. I was playing a game last night (granted, not modern AAA graphics quality) where I was getting 95-125 fps at 4K/ultra.
 
I play games that are fun to me, and it's a bonus if they look great too. I can't say that with my choice of games I'm not already well served by the single 1080. Two would be fantastic overkill, and even with a hypothetical future 120hz 4K gsync monitor I'd still be hitting 90-100 in the games that are currently not quite at 4K/60, and the rest would be pegged. That's certainly good enough for me for several years to come.
2016/09/16 13:54:46
StealthArsenal
I will say this with the sli. Generally, sli works fine with games that support it. If I was to use my old 980tis as an example, both were stud overclockers when not configured in sli. I had two classys that clocked to 2100 and thats its. One card obviously got hotter than the other so i ended up settling at around 2025ish. When there was one card, settled generally around 2088 but held 2100 pretty steadily. I dropped sli because it just didnt make sense to me to keep it. One 1080 classy was rocking all my games and newer AAA titles dont even have sli support, so it was all a waste of money if you think of it that way.

I would say just ditch sli and run one card or just get the titan and be done with it. Most are having good luck with their cards.
2016/09/16 23:32:59
Ptiwhisky
Try to resist to the strix + bitspower waterblock plz evga gave me some infos :'((((
2016/09/17 07:29:14
AHowes
sethleigh
AHowes
Granted the fe cards usually will run 2050-2100+ overclocked but will the clocks will bounce all over the place from that single 8 pin connector and or the limited 5 phase power compared to custom cards like the classified that gives you overkill 14+3 phase power or the ftw with its 12+2 phases power.

With all that said your still limited by the silicon lottery with the chip itself. So all that extra overkill power regulation would mean squat if your chip don't wana budge over 2k.

I think about that, and worry that a second 1080 SC wouldn't turn out as well as my first one did, but two things make me think more positively about this:
 
1) we typically hear more of the bad than of the good on boards like this, so I'm not convinced the 1080 dud situation is as bad as it's made out to be, and
 
2) in SLI I'd probably be very satisfied with cards even if they don't clock as well as my 1080 SC does right now. I run this at 2139Mhz rock stable in various games and benchmarks (2152 but not rock stable), but with SLI I'd probably be more than satisfied just running the pair at 2025 or 2050. I mean, for my purposes, that would be a dream solution. I push for 2139 right now only because I have a single card and am not quite there yet for 4k/60 in some games. For lots of games though I'm well past 4K/60 with the single card. I was playing a game last night (granted, not modern AAA graphics quality) where I was getting 95-125 fps at 4K/ultra.
 
I play games that are fun to me, and it's a bonus if they look great too. I can't say that with my choice of games I'm not already well served by the single 1080. Two would be fantastic overkill, and even with a hypothetical future 120hz 4K gsync monitor I'd still be hitting 90-100 in the games that are currently not quite at 4K/60, and the rest would be pegged. That's certainly good enough for me for several years to come.


Very true, very true.. just 2 runing 2050-2100 would be just fine with me.

Going to test my 4th classified here shorty and hoping it's a good one with no dreaded voltage limit "1" coming in at below -200 stock clocks like the last 2!
2016/09/17 09:24:17
AHowes
4th classified is good! No limits at 1 so 0 down clocking of the core just like my first card. Default out od rhe box will run 2025mhz at 1.43v and climbs slowly to 1.05v i believe. Almost ran a bench at 2190mhz at 1.093v but locks up after 5 mins or so. 2164mhz is fine at 1.083v.

So the hunt is over finally.. hopefully they don't cook eachother with 1 slot in between but I'm sure it will happen if the first card will max out at 59c after an hour of witcher 3.

Only flaw on the 2nd card I found so far is that the max the ram wants to do before artifacts is +500. At 600 I get slight screen flashing every now and then. The first card will run around 900+ almost 12k! No big deal. Water cooling may fix that but crap would cost me another $260 for ek blocks and $34 for a bridge and another $80 for a 120.3 rad. Wife won't let me. Could go custom old school swiftech universal vga water blocks and just keep the black aluminum plate on there to cool the mem and vreg and point a powerful fan at the end of the cards but I feel it's risky.. though the overkill 14.3 phase controller does as I've read run much cooler but cool enough?
2016/09/22 15:59:55
Ptiwhisky
Any update on the 1080 waterblock ? EVGA are you waiting for the 1080 Ti? No 1080 Hydro Copper?
 
Let me spend my money :'(
2016/09/23 19:20:13
Wenty
Ptiwhisky
Any update on the 1080 waterblock ? EVGA are you waiting for the 1080 Ti? No 1080 Hydro Copper?
 
Let me spend my money :'(




Waiting on info also on the Hydro Copper card.   : I
2016/09/24 06:57:24
coldmesa
Also waiting on update on Hydro Copper card...

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