2016/03/15 07:17:12
thair7391
Sajin
thair7391
Sajin
thair7391
Perfect! That really should be all I need to just go for it on my own at this point and really see what I can hit. Do you have any reservations with setting it all the way to 1.28 considering I'm using the ACX2.0+ cooler that came with the card? As I said, I'm ok with turning the fan up when in games. I'm staying pretty cool under load currently already, between 56 and 63 C. I think that's plenty of room to increase voltage that much; considering I've another 30% fan speed to compensate if needed.

Sounds like you'll be fine. 


No luck :(
 
When I set that voltage table you showed to 1.28, my card was constantly staying at that voltage, but as soon as I launched a 3D application (Unigine Heaven in this case), I get a crash, black screen, then, the weird part: The benchmark continues/restarts but the card got clocked down all the way to 565 Mhz and wouldn't change!!! It's like some internal throttling mechanism and not thermal throttling because I was at 48 C.
 
What's going on here? Rebooting was the only way to reset the GPU to not throttle at 565 Mhz anymore until I flashed my last BIOS back. DO the cards have something built-in to prevent a voltage increase of that magnitude? Because my card did NOT like it lol


Sounds like a unstable overclock.


Really?? I just find that strange that at stock power and voltage limit settings, I can add +130 MHz to the stock 1109 MHz core clock with ZERO issues or crashing or artifacts. It will boost up to 1445 with that additional 130MHz just fine and not exceed a voltage of 1.215. I find it strange that increasing the voltage and forcing it constantly to 1.28V doesn't even allow for an extra 30 MHz stable. I would expect that much of an increase to provide at least 60-75 Mhz more on the core, if not 125 MHz. Is this an unrealistic expectation?
2016/03/15 08:43:01
Sajin
thair7391
Really?? I just find that strange that at stock power and voltage limit settings, I can add +130 MHz to the stock 1109 MHz core clock with ZERO issues or crashing or artifacts. It will boost up to 1445 with that additional 130MHz just fine and not exceed a voltage of 1.215. I find it strange that increasing the voltage and forcing it constantly to 1.28V doesn't even allow for an extra 30 MHz stable. I would expect that much of an increase to provide at least 60-75 Mhz more on the core, if not 125 MHz. Is this an unrealistic expectation?

Is the card still boosting to 1445 at 1.28v?
2016/03/15 08:55:23
thair7391
Sajin
thair7391
Really?? I just find that strange that at stock power and voltage limit settings, I can add +130 MHz to the stock 1109 MHz core clock with ZERO issues or crashing or artifacts. It will boost up to 1445 with that additional 130MHz just fine and not exceed a voltage of 1.215. I find it strange that increasing the voltage and forcing it constantly to 1.28V doesn't even allow for an extra 30 MHz stable. I would expect that much of an increase to provide at least 60-75 Mhz more on the core, if not 125 MHz. Is this an unrealistic expectation?

Is the card still boosting to 1445 at 1.28v?


Here's the thing, when I set the voltage to 1.28 as you explained in BIOS Tweaker, when I'm running on that BIOS, as soon as I launch ANYTHING in 3D; a game, Heaven benchmark etc, the screen immediately goes blank like the drivers crashing, but instead of crashing like normal, the 3D application will resume, but running at a MUCH lower frame rate and I can visibly see that my card is running at 565 MHz so the voltage change in the BIOS causes my card to just completely throttle down like 75% and it stays there unless I reboot or disable and re-enable the card from device manager. As SOON as the 3D app launches and the boost ramps up, it immediately fails and then resumes at the 565 MHz clock speed. So I don't get a chance to see what it's boosting up to, only that it's remaining at 1.28V constantly, even when it throttles down to 565 MHz. It's weird. I've taken my stock BIOS, modified it with your power limit increase suggestions to 300W. I had no problems there. On that BIOS, I can make changes like I can on stock and make the same increases to core clock but with higher power limit, no issues. But when I change the voltage to 1.28 like you described and flash that BIOS, that's when the crash/pause/resume at 565 MHz happens. I haven't been able to get it to do anything differently than that with the voltage modification. Even if I have zero overclock added and default settings through AB, it does the same thing.
2016/03/15 09:13:29
Sajin
thair7391
Sajin
thair7391
Really?? I just find that strange that at stock power and voltage limit settings, I can add +130 MHz to the stock 1109 MHz core clock with ZERO issues or crashing or artifacts. It will boost up to 1445 with that additional 130MHz just fine and not exceed a voltage of 1.215. I find it strange that increasing the voltage and forcing it constantly to 1.28V doesn't even allow for an extra 30 MHz stable. I would expect that much of an increase to provide at least 60-75 Mhz more on the core, if not 125 MHz. Is this an unrealistic expectation?

Is the card still boosting to 1445 at 1.28v?


Here's the thing, when I set the voltage to 1.28 as you explained in BIOS Tweaker, when I'm running on that BIOS, as soon as I launch ANYTHING in 3D; a game, Heaven benchmark etc, the screen immediately goes blank like the drivers crashing, but instead of crashing like normal, the 3D application will resume, but running at a MUCH lower frame rate and I can visibly see that my card is running at 565 MHz so the voltage change in the BIOS causes my card to just completely throttle down like 75% and it stays there unless I reboot or disable and re-enable the card from device manager. As SOON as the 3D app launches and the boost ramps up, it immediately fails and then resumes at the 565 MHz clock speed. So I don't get a chance to see what it's boosting up to, only that it's remaining at 1.28V constantly, even when it throttles down to 565 MHz. It's weird. I've taken my stock BIOS, modified it with your power limit increase suggestions to 300W. I had no problems there. On that BIOS, I can make changes like I can on stock and make the same increases to core clock but with higher power limit, no issues. But when I change the voltage to 1.28 like you described and flash that BIOS, that's when the crash/pause/resume at 565 MHz happens. I haven't been able to get it to do anything differently than that with the voltage modification. Even if I have zero overclock added and default settings through AB, it does the same thing.


It's possible you need higher power table limits to go along with the 1.28v voltage table increase. Try the following...
 
TDP:
25000
540000
540000
 
PCIe:
10000
75000
75000
 
PSU PEG 1:
12000
240000
240000
 
PSU PEG 2:
12000
300000
300000
 
Power Limit:
150000
350000
540000
 
 
2016/03/15 09:27:15
thair7391
Sajin
thair7391
Sajin
thair7391
Really?? I just find that strange that at stock power and voltage limit settings, I can add +130 MHz to the stock 1109 MHz core clock with ZERO issues or crashing or artifacts. It will boost up to 1445 with that additional 130MHz just fine and not exceed a voltage of 1.215. I find it strange that increasing the voltage and forcing it constantly to 1.28V doesn't even allow for an extra 30 MHz stable. I would expect that much of an increase to provide at least 60-75 Mhz more on the core, if not 125 MHz. Is this an unrealistic expectation?

Is the card still boosting to 1445 at 1.28v?


Here's the thing, when I set the voltage to 1.28 as you explained in BIOS Tweaker, when I'm running on that BIOS, as soon as I launch ANYTHING in 3D; a game, Heaven benchmark etc, the screen immediately goes blank like the drivers crashing, but instead of crashing like normal, the 3D application will resume, but running at a MUCH lower frame rate and I can visibly see that my card is running at 565 MHz so the voltage change in the BIOS causes my card to just completely throttle down like 75% and it stays there unless I reboot or disable and re-enable the card from device manager. As SOON as the 3D app launches and the boost ramps up, it immediately fails and then resumes at the 565 MHz clock speed. So I don't get a chance to see what it's boosting up to, only that it's remaining at 1.28V constantly, even when it throttles down to 565 MHz. It's weird. I've taken my stock BIOS, modified it with your power limit increase suggestions to 300W. I had no problems there. On that BIOS, I can make changes like I can on stock and make the same increases to core clock but with higher power limit, no issues. But when I change the voltage to 1.28 like you described and flash that BIOS, that's when the crash/pause/resume at 565 MHz happens. I haven't been able to get it to do anything differently than that with the voltage modification. Even if I have zero overclock added and default settings through AB, it does the same thing.


It's possible you need higher power table limits to go along with the 1.28v voltage table increase. Try the following...
 
TDP:
25000
540000
540000

PCIe:
10000
75000
75000

PSU PEG 1:
12000
240000
240000

PSU PEG 2:
12000
300000
300000

Power Limit:
150000
350000
540000
 
 




I'll do it when I get home from work; Thank you again for your help!
2016/03/15 09:32:45
Sajin
thair7391
I'll do it when I get home from work; Thank you again for your help!

No problem. Let me know how it goes. 
2016/03/16 17:01:59
curtixman
Everything you need to know about how can be found on the first page of this thread;
****!  it keeps removing my link.
All the following pages are requests for various GTX 9-- series GPU's.
 
overclock.net/t/1573308/nvidia-gtx-900-cards-custom-bios-upon-request
2016/04/10 12:49:44
alexl1984
What is the best bios for an EVGA 980Ti Classified on Air cooling, stock bios version 84.00.41.00.90?
 
Thanks
2016/04/10 15:12:00
Sajin
alexl1984
What is the best bios for an EVGA 980Ti Classified on Air cooling, stock bios version 84.00.41.00.90?
 
Thanks


You should be able to find everything you need here.
2016/04/11 09:03:28
alexl1984
Sajin
alexl1984
What is the best bios for an EVGA 980Ti Classified on Air cooling, stock bios version 84.00.41.00.90?
 
Thanks


You should be able to find everything you need .


Thanks.   I tried the GTX980Ti_ClassyOC bios and it doesnt seem as stable when overclokcing as the default one.  I have read through quite a few pages of the thread but not all 2000+ pages.
I can't seem to find a specific page or info on Classified Air only bios.  From what I have been playing with more volts doesnt seem to help but I could be missing something - the reason I would like to test and compare others

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