Hi Prophit,
I was watching you thread as the bios version you have made no sense on a ftw or it made total sense as your original sli was unstable and someone knew how to fix it....  Did you try to oc the cards and apply an over volt? Precision just defaulted back to normal when i first started trying..I am back on the original bios right now but when i modified them i believe they did accept more volts but that no software would show it. The only way to see it is with a multimeter....Try overclocking them with sli disabled and try the kingpin bios card and see if that accepts an over volt with an overclock... go easy on the volts....
I am glad you are stable and from what i read in your thread you asic quality is much closer then mine..
 

Prophit
First, thank you for putting in all the work / testing / screen shotting / emailing.

Second, I cant wait to see how EVGA_Chris responds.
 
Third, I need to check my FTW SLI cards tonight because if you saw my other thread, you'd know that one of my FTW cards has the stock launch day bios " 84.04.2F.00.80" and my 2nd card (from RMA) has the Kingpin bios on it "84.04.2F.01.80". I have not looked to see if mine are capped at 1.212.  I did get a response from an EVGA tech in the thread.  Here it is http://forums.evga.com/GT...is-fixed-m2288419.aspx
 
EDIT: I should note that my system is rock solid stable - i am not having the same problems as the OP but I'm concerned my 980 FTWs may be hard capped and that we are not getting the full potential of the GPU that we thought we were.

I have not OC'd or messed with voltages at all.  To be honest with you after all the frustration i had in the past, once my system was stable i just wanted to play games.  So for the past 4~ weeks I've just been playing tons of games in my free time instead of tinkering with OC settings.
 
I dont feel comfortable throwing around voltage settings but i am still very curious as to why the normal FTW is "capped" at 1.21 
 
I have yet to verify this cap on either of my cards because I cannot extract the bios (as i explained in your other thread).
 
Please let me know if you find another source.
 

antandbetty
Hi Prophit,
I was watching you thread as the bios version you have made no sense on a ftw or it made total sense as your original sli was unstable and someone knew how to fix it....  Did you try to oc the cards and apply an over volt? Precision just defaulted back to normal when i first started trying..I am back on the original bios right now but when i modified them i believe they did accept more volts but that no software would show it. The only way to see it is with a multimeter....Try overclocking them with sli disabled and try the kingpin bios card and see if that accepts an over volt with an overclock... go easy on the volts....
I am glad you are stable and from what i read in your thread you asic quality is much closer then mine..
 

Prophit
First, thank you for putting in all the work / testing / screen shotting / emailing.

Second, I cant wait to see how EVGA_Chris responds.
 
Third, I need to check my FTW SLI cards tonight because if you saw my other thread, you'd know that one of my FTW cards has the stock launch day bios " 84.04.2F.00.80" and my 2nd card (from RMA) has the Kingpin bios on it "84.04.2F.01.80". I have not looked to see if mine are capped at 1.212.  I did get a response from an EVGA tech in the thread.  Here it is http://forums.evga.com/GT...is-fixed-m2288419.aspx
 
EDIT: I should note that my system is rock solid stable - i am not having the same problems as the OP but I'm concerned my 980 FTWs may be hard capped and that we are not getting the full potential of the GPU that we thought we were.

Betty, any answers from EVGA Chris?

Hi prophit,
 
The response I got did not address all my findings  it was communicated through Chris but it was from a tech at evga that does not really work with bios issues. I was told the bios is created in Germany. The response from the tech regarding my issues was unsatisfactory. Chris went out of his way for me offering me multiple options, including total refunds even though i purchased 1 GPU from new-egg.  The only GPU they make that is not locked without messing around with bios is the kingpin & that is not advertised. But there is what they call a test switch on the bottom of the Kingpin with i believe increases the voltage by .25 mv plus you can go beyond that with "unofficial" software on kingpins forum.  
 
Nvidia requires the manufactures to lock the voltage. Some cards are set higher then others because of the design. If you look up nvidia sli voltage bug you will find this issue goes back far. While it is not an issue for most, i believe it does crop up for a few like myself in sli. Like i mentioned above I only cared about stability and of course overclocking the cards. If the voltage increase in Afterburner or precision does not actually increase the volts that why am i bothering?
 
In the end i have a feeling I was only correcting an nvidia driver issue by circumventing it in the GPU bios. Not really a fix but more of a band aid.
 

Prophit
Betty, any answers from EVGA Chris?

To add to this.  
 
The Classified is also locked to 1212mv.  I've submitted a Support Ticket asking why.

This is the LN2 BIOS just pulled from the Card:
 

 

awahwah
To add to this.  
 
The Classified is also locked to 1212mv.  I've submitted a Support Ticket asking why.

The classified are easily overvolted without any bios mods just using this software posted by Kingpin.  Scroll down to post #9 for an updated version.... Be very careful as this tool goes all the way up to 1.60 volts. It will fry you chip if you don't run under water or LN2. Technically the kingpin has the same voltage settings in the bios. 
 
http://kingpincooling.com...c474da44f80&t=2977

antandbetty

awahwah
To add to this.  
 
The Classified is also locked to 1212mv.  I've submitted a Support Ticket asking why.

The classified are easily overvolted without any bios mods just using this software posted by Kingpin.  Scroll down to post #9 for an updated version.... Be very careful as this tool goes all the way up to 1.60 volts. It will fry you chip if you don't run under water or LN2. Technically the kingpin has the same voltage settings in the bios. 
 
http://kingpincooling.com...c474da44f80&t=2977

Doesn't this require you to flash with a modified BIOS?

 
 

HeavyHemi

antandbetty

awahwah
To add to this.  
 
The Classified is also locked to 1212mv.  I've submitted a Support Ticket asking why.

The classified are easily overvolted without any bios mods just using this software posted by Kingpin.  Scroll down to post #9 for an updated version.... Be very careful as this tool goes all the way up to 1.60 volts. It will fry you chip if you don't run under water or LN2. Technically the kingpin has the same voltage settings in the bios. 
 
 

Doesn't this require you to flash with a modified BIOS?

At first i thought it did but i asked on Kingpin site and they told me no. I don't own a classified though so i can't be sure. Another issue is that you need to use a multimeter as neither afterburner nor precision will report any volts over 1.212.  on any gpu.
 
So stupid. unlock the freaking vcore nvidia. Do we fry our CPU's when we overclock them? if we do, we deserve it......can't help but rant 
 
EDIT: logged in with old user name. 

That tools does work without a BIOS update (kingpin) and was also the solution offered by EVGA to my support ticket. They stated that the low voltage is by design. Still strange that a cheaper variant has a higher voltage pool to play with.