• Folding@EVGA
  • Official 2014 Folding Time Zone Challenge Thread (p.63)
2014/12/30 20:43:00
raist00
Scarlet-Tech
What happened? If it is because you can respond to pm's, we can provide you an email. The spam blocking feature where a minimum amount of posts is to keep all member protected from a bot coming in and pming everyone on the forum without being an active user. If that is what has you bothered, it is in place for a good reason.



The post was made after about a 45 minute ordeal attempting to login/comment/message via the forums.  As a matter of principle, I don't like sites remembering login information.  When logging in, I didn't check the 'Remember me' box.  At that point, you can't do anything on the forums requiring your account, but you also can't login - clicking the 'Login' button in the top left takes you back to the same page you were on.  There is no indication of the problem.  I tried five different browsers on two different computers with the same result, going so far as reinstalling/wiping profile data to make sure there weren't addons/settings interfering.  I will acknowledge that it was partially my fault for clicking through the note on the login page several times.  However, in my defense, most sites put boilerplate warnings like "On shared devices, additional precautions are recommended." or "If you use a shared computer, do not select the 'Remember me on this computer' check box." in the same location.
 
Once Ii successfully logged in, being unable to send a private message was the last straw.  There a better ways to prevent spam abuse than a blanket ban such as captchas and rate limiting for unverifed accounts.  In addition, criteria for account verification are idiotic.  It's unlikely a spammer would sit on an account for four and a half years before attempting to abuse it.  Furthermore, the PM restriction is a (relatively) recent change to forum rules - I was previously able to send and now cannot.  A commonsense procedure when changing rules and restricting accounts is to grandfather those from before the rule change.  Obviously that did not happen here.
2014/12/30 21:12:56
bill1024
I don't think web pages store your log in, I do believe it is in the cookies stored on your drive.
Every time I clear all cookies I have to log into every site I go to even though I check the keep me logged in box
Maybe delete the cookie after you're done and see if that works for you.
Though you should not have to if the box is not checked.
Or just to make sure hit the log out button up in the right hand corner, I always do that after I am done with some sites.
2014/12/30 21:29:43
notfordman
I'm sorry about the PM feature raist00. I know it's a pain. Thanks for your prize pick reply. You make some good points, too.  
2014/12/30 22:03:36
kerryd
PM sent to loganex with a email address to send name and email to so I can fire off $ 50 newegg gift card. gratz loganex
2014/12/30 22:38:35
bill1024
necessaryevil426 congratulations.  PM sent.
2014/12/31 06:45:43
kougar
Congrats to the winners, and thanks to everyone that donated gifts for the contest!
 
I don't drink coffee and I own Metro already, so I'm gonna take a pass in advance! Cheers 
2014/12/31 06:56:25
DutchForce
Enjoy your card, Asus... great to see that you've already put it to work and thanks for the pics and update!
 
Also congratulations to All the prize winners and thanks to all other teammates for donating great prizes too!!
 
BTW: We are setting a new monthly team record again with this contest, so keep up the good work everyone!!
2014/12/31 07:27:03
raist00
bill1024
I don't think web pages store your log in, I do believe it is in the cookies stored on your drive.
Every time I clear all cookies I have to log into every site I go to even though I check the keep me logged in box
Maybe delete the cookie after you're done and see if that works for you.
Though you should not have to if the box is not checked.
Or just to make sure hit the log out button up in the right hand corner, I always do that after I am done with some sites.


Yes, the login info is stored in the cookies, not the site itself.  However through things like CSRF, XSS, or even a shared Wifi network, it's possible to obtain/use cookies to impersonate a user. It's not uncommon for me to have login problems on site; I block Java, Flash, javascript, first and third party cookies by default.  To log in, I often have to whitelist or temporarily allow a site but the it works.  Not recognizing login information after logging in is a common symptom of blocked cookies and a locked down browser cache. When the typical fixes didn't work on EVGA, I spent a lot of time disabling addons and reverting settings to make sure that they weren't interfering.  Part of my furor was towards myself for the wasted time going in the wrong direction trying to debug the problem.  It was tempered by rage at the poor design that created the conflicting information.  My main gripe is the lack of feedback that led me down that path.  On EVGA, I suspect the problem is narrowly scoped sub-domains; forums.evga.com can't access anything on ᴡᴡᴡ.ᴇᴠɢᴀ.ᴄᴏᴍ.  When logging in from the forums, it redirects to main site, the main site can read the login data, so it redirects back to the orignial page.  The forums can't read the user data so appear as not logged in.  At this point, there's nothing you can do from the forums to fix the problem; you have to go back to the main site, logout and login again with the box checked. There's nothing to indicate that those are the right steps to fix the issue.  It wouldn't be too difficult to add an intermediary redirect after login on the forums subdomain that verifies that the necessary cookies are present. If they are, it redirects on to the originating page and if not, it shows an alert.  As a general design principle, if it's possible to completely break something by changing a setting, either the setting shouldn't be there, or there should be immediate feedback that the setting should be changed when attempting the action that the setting prevents.

notfordman

I'm sorry about the PM feature raist00. I know it's a pain. Thanks for your prize pick reply. You make some good points, too.  



I apologize for my post.  It came in a moment of extreme frustration and was frankly inappropriate.
2015/01/01 17:01:00
007quick
Hmm... Not sure why I can't PM yet,  It seems I meet all the criteria, 10 posts and member for 5 days.  In any case, were these the t-shirts that are being refereed to as 'in stock'?

http://www.evga.com/Produ..ProductList.aspx?type=9
If so I'll take a mug simply because they don't have my size t-shirt.
I hope you get the message NOTFORDMAN

Thanks to everyone who donated prizes !
2015/01/01 17:06:55
Viper97
Well, I'm the mug guy... Not sure why you're not able to PM... (I hate reading rules) but Notfordman will help ya  out and let me know what I need to do. 
 

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