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  • Official 2014 Folding Time Zone Challenge Thread (p.55)
2014/12/18 08:55:53
un4givn85
drougnor
un4givn85
 
 
so, just curious, why do the ppd numbers here not match up with EOCF?




I'm measuring PPD by taking the current total points you've produced during the contest and dividing that by the current length of the contest.
 
I have no idea how EOC does their PPD, but I think they simply sample your daily production over a number of days and averages those values out.  
 
I'm not a statistician by any measure - I merely did some quick and dirty math to approximate the PPD calculations that Troy is showing in his sheet, and quite likely missed something in my formula. 
 
Also, I want to say Congrats to Central for crossing the 100 Million point line at 10am EST, Dec 18th!
 
PST is under 2 days now! 




thats cool, i was just wondering
2014/12/18 09:45:49
Sprinx
I've pretty much only folded during the time zone challenge (this one and the one back in April/May). My projected PPD was dreadfully under the mark, but as I only provided 0.58% of Central time's points I don't think it skewed the projections too much. 

Even though we've already surpassed the 1 million point mark for Central, I'll keep it going the rest of the month to try and hit the 750,000 needed for EVGA bucks.
2014/12/18 10:23:48
007quick
If I may make an observation regarding the perceived lack of competition because of folders distribution, might I suggest that the contest is made more fun by the effort to try and recruit other folders into the contest once it is running?  I am the only non-evga folder to join the contest but there has to be others out there who if they knew that the contest is running would join in.  Also, the requirement to change the team you are folding for also acts as a detriment to recruiting outsiders.  If you really wanted to open it up, you'd make it open to anyone on any team and find a way to allow folders to join even a the last moment to allow mid contest recruiting.
Also, as an option, you might consider introducing a handicap system where folders that produce over (400k PPD?) begin to get handicapped based on how far over the cap they go.  Their extra points would still count but to a lesser extent so that the little guys are still making a difference.
Or run two tiers of contest at the same time, the first contest only counts the bottom 400k ppd of each person and the second keeps track of surplus production.  That way a team with many folders below the cap could win one contest while a team with a few folders way over the cap could easily win the other.  Perhaps a third contest could be done at the same time counting how many WU a team completes and then the true winning team is the one who collects the most victories between the three possible wins.  This would require a team to decide how they want to distribute their folders.
Just thinking out loud...
 
PS.  GO PACIFIC!
2014/12/18 11:21:20
sajinor
007quick
Also, as an option, you might consider introducing a handicap system where folders that produce over (400k PPD?) begin to get handicapped based on how far over the cap they go.  Their extra points would still count but to a lesser extent so that the little guys are still making a difference.
 



Similar handicapping systems were used in one (or maybe more) of the old March Madness contests. It also attracted a lot of dislike from some people. Not saying it can't be used, just pointing out it has been tried.
 
On another topic, those who are shutting down or moving on to other things, take a minute to check out the latest Prime Grid Challenge, starting in under 4 hours. It is one of the few that utilizes the GPU, and all are welcome.
2014/12/18 15:22:15
kerryd
Mekhed
 
 
The logistics of the time zones seems to be the issue. Perhaps a school yard style contest would be better. Have 3, 4 or 5 captains pick (draft) their teams. We could come up with some serious or silly names for the teams and still have some fun trash talk. Just a thought.
 
 



That is kind of how March madnesssssssss worked when we had it.Here is hoping it pops back up
2014/12/18 19:13:40
Xavier Zepherious
drougnor
Also, it looks like Mountain crossed the finish line around 2am EST, Dec. 18th
 




it was 3am update
we were at 0.01days left at 2am
2014/12/18 20:01:08
pcmaster00
Mekhed
drougnor
All I can say is whatever is decided - If someone comes up with a new scoring system or contest style, whatever, I'm MORE than happy to provide the raw numbers. 


I've been folding with you guys for 8 months now and this is by far the best team, best people I've been around. Everybody is willing to help us less experienced folders. The TZC is wildly successful in what it intends to accomplish, to stimulate team folding at a high level, just look at the Dec numbers for [link=mailto:folding@evga]folding@evga[/link]. Holy crap!!!!!! I usually fold 7-10 days a month to help out and get the evga bucks and keep my electric bill under control but the challenge inspired me to keep going. I understand that to make it fun we want the teams to be competitive. This is my first TZC and if I'd known it would be this lopsided for EST I would have signed up with a different team. Quotas are not the answer, we want everybody folding full bore balls to the wall!!!!
 
The logistics of the time zones seems to be the issue. Perhaps a school yard style contest would be better. Have 3, 4 or 5 captains pick (draft) their teams. We could come up with some serious or silly names for the teams and still have some fun trash talk. Just a thought.
 
Estimating ppd is tough. I know when I signed up I had a vga card in the RMA process. Didn't know when it would be back or if it would fold well. I've done much better than I thought. I hope the contests continue, I've had a lot of fun. I've learned that my rig is quite stable and pretty strong and there's a lot of great people here with a great sense of humor


I like this idea a lot.  Teams are random enough that it should be relatively fair and the true competition should help bring more folding to bear.  I love it.
2014/12/18 23:00:08
codebluetoo
Looking deep into my crystal ball I foresee Pacific crossing the finish line!  No one can stop us now, bwahahahahaha!
2014/12/18 23:27:17
BadBertie
Mekhed
The logistics of the time zones seems to be the issue. Perhaps a school yard style contest would be better. Have 3, 4 or 5 captains pick (draft) their teams.


Oh no, i'm going to get picked last again!
2014/12/19 00:24:25
Scarlet-Tech
BadBertie
Mekhed
The logistics of the time zones seems to be the issue. Perhaps a school yard style contest would be better. Have 3, 4 or 5 captains pick (draft) their teams.


Oh no, i'm going to get picked last again!


 
I'd choose you pikachu.  LOL

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