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  • Official 2014 Folding Time Zone Challenge Thread (p.54)
2014/12/18 03:40:00
LearjetMinako
drougnor
Also, it looks like Mountain crossed the finish line around 2am EST, Dec. 18th
 


 *sadface*.  Maybe next year, CST will claim its rightful place.  But this time, it was fun to fold once again for a while.
 
Like to give a big Thank You to DutchForce.  This dude donates some awesome prizes.  In fact, the GTX660Ti FTW+ that he donated back in the 2013 March Maddness is what I've been folding on.
2014/12/18 04:22:16
BadBertie
troy8d
BadBertie
Agree with Punchy there. While I have found this tzc entertaining and amusing, as a race/competition it was over from day one. To try and balance teams, handicaps or whatever, you are trying to artificially make the teams identical in performance. And where's the fun in that.
The entertainment in this tzc for me has been the freedom/possibility for Mountain and Central to up their game and it may still be a very close finish tomorrow.
Where you have teams of a complete mix of ppd, limited by expense effectively, you need to devise a contest of skill rather than brute force. The only example I could think of is daft but goes like: random number generates a total 24hr points production for each of the teams to achieve but not exceed. Teams or team captains nominate the "players" for each day's target production score. Closest to the total wins a point, over shooting deducts points. To allow for continuous play for a couple of weeks, the 14 daily random numbers are all announced on day 1 to allow teamwork and planning. It would be a pain to administer but largely removes the advantage of the big guns.



Any contest where it is advantageous to limit production is counterproductive to one the primary goals of contests.



Well, we've seen a few comments the tzc was a little unfair due to some extra production. Let's face it, there's likely to be a compromise between peak production and a balanced competition.
The way I see the scenario above playing out is everyone will need to be pushing 100% so "captains"/tacticians know who is ready to be thrown into the mix in a few days and what ppd they can expect. There will be tactical pauses to try an ensure the "players" projects drop their points on the day and not over-shoot, but then they rev up again for the next target.
Anyway, it was just an idea. Something different.
2014/12/18 04:30:15
drougnor
All I can say is whatever is decided - If someone comes up with a new scoring system or contest style, whatever, I'm MORE than happy to provide the raw numbers. 
2014/12/18 05:18:23
wrinvert
bcavnaugh
Well at least I have moved from 20th to 18th Team Rank and back down to 195 for Project Rank.
Sorry wrinvert but then it looks like you are on a Folding Break ATM.
I'm still plugging away, just had to throttle back to just my 4p again after we hit 100mill. I was within 10% of my projected ppd.
2014/12/18 06:52:11
Opolis
Wait...is that?....yes!  I think I can see the finish line from here! Lets go PST!
Finally broke in to the top 200 during this contest.  The 4p ran strong on bigadv and I averaged almost exactly to my goal/reported ppd.
2014/12/18 07:30:57
un4givn85
drougnor
If you're having trouble getting the Team Standings chart to load, check here - This is my badly cobbled together backup copy
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajp2y_vsc3njdEtoS0RDS0tFZmg2Z1JTcWFJb1JSUUE&usp=sharing%27#gid=24
 
I'm basically fiddling around learning how Troy put together the site just as a way of increasing the knowledge base on this. I'll try to get the publishing side sorted sometime today so I can just provide a simple page link like Troy did instead of linking to individual spreadsheet tabs.
 
Remember, this is only the backup site.
 
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so, just curious, why do the ppd numbers here not match up with EOCF?
2014/12/18 08:06:55
Mekhed
drougnor
All I can say is whatever is decided - If someone comes up with a new scoring system or contest style, whatever, I'm MORE than happy to provide the raw numbers. 


I've been folding with you guys for 8 months now and this is by far the best team, best people I've been around. Everybody is willing to help us less experienced folders. The TZC is wildly successful in what it intends to accomplish, to stimulate team folding at a high level, just look at the Dec numbers for [link=mailto:folding@evga]folding@evga[/link]. Holy crap!!!!!! I usually fold 7-10 days a month to help out and get the evga bucks and keep my electric bill under control but the challenge inspired me to keep going. I understand that to make it fun we want the teams to be competitive. This is my first TZC and if I'd known it would be this lopsided for EST I would have signed up with a different team. Quotas are not the answer, we want everybody folding full bore balls to the wall!!!!
 
The logistics of the time zones seems to be the issue. Perhaps a school yard style contest would be better. Have 3, 4 or 5 captains pick (draft) their teams. We could come up with some serious or silly names for the teams and still have some fun trash talk. Just a thought.
 
Estimating ppd is tough. I know when I signed up I had a vga card in the RMA process. Didn't know when it would be back or if it would fold well. I've done much better than I thought. I hope the contests continue, I've had a lot of fun. I've learned that my rig is quite stable and pretty strong and there's a lot of great people here with a great sense of humor
2014/12/18 08:22:45
bcavnaugh
LearjetMinako
drougnor
Also, it looks like Mountain crossed the finish line around 2am EST, Dec. 18th
 


 *sadface*.  Maybe next year, CST will claim its rightful place.  But this time, it was fun to fold once again for a while.
 
Like to give a big Thank You to DutchForce.  This dude donates some awesome prizes.  In fact, the GTX660Ti FTW+ that he donated back in the 2013 March Maddness is what I've been folding on.


You don't mean the Central of Attention do you.
2014/12/18 08:34:16
drougnor
un4givn85
 
 
so, just curious, why do the ppd numbers here not match up with EOCF?




I'm measuring PPD by taking the current total points you've produced during the contest and dividing that by the current length of the contest.
 
I have no idea how EOC does their PPD, but I think they simply sample your daily production over a number of days and averages those values out.  
 
I'm not a statistician by any measure - I merely did some quick and dirty math to approximate the PPD calculations that Troy is showing in his sheet, and quite likely missed something in my formula. 
 
Also, I want to say Congrats to Central for crossing the 100 Million point line at 10am EST, Dec 18th!
 
PST is under 2 days now! 
2014/12/18 08:47:20
BadBertie
drougnor
 
Also, I want to say Congrats to Central for crossing the 100 Million point line at 10am EST, Dec 18th!
 
PST is under 2 days now! 



Well done Central. Certainly had us worried. Thanks for making it fun !!

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