2010/06/03 12:18:08
FunDMental
Hi, I hope this is the right place to ask this.
I'm following the uninstall/reinstallinstructions above, and driver sweeper shows Nvidia chipsets drivers along with the display driver
Do I remove those too?

Belarc advisor says i'm running Inrtel chipsets in my MOBO, so I/'m assuming the Nvidia chipset drivers are for the display.
I just don't want to kill my MOBO
in case you need the info I'm running a 9400 on vista 32
2010/06/04 03:16:48
n9zn-extra
That's a good question you ask. I also noticed those chipsets too.
 
So far I have had no joy getting this done. My temps are climbing every try and I am on the 4th reset backward on this PC.
 
I am getting close to the point where I am going to reinstall the OS and start from scratch again but I sure did hope to avoid that.
 
Let me know how this goes for you and that will help me decide what I am going to do.
 
Thank's
Monty
2010/06/17 10:18:06
donta1979
no you only remove the nvidia display driver
 
@n9zn-extra
You are over complicating things.... one you purchased an alienware hehehehe I dont buy thier crap pre builts, they are designed to pretty much go out once the warrenty is about done or has expired.... the thing is airflow for thier cases its horrid.... I own an alienware case I got for 180 dollars from alienware off of ebay.... all of the factory fans minus the hard drive one have been ripped out and thrown in the trash. But yeah look at my mod rigs check out the fans im using thermaltake 120mm 93CFM blue led fans, and a silverstone 120mm 115 CFM fan as my side panels intake. I also went as far as to get a pci slot cooler for my GTX 480. But yeah fix your airflow problems fix your tim on your gpus and problem solved.... btw dont tell them you put windows 7 on, thier techs are about as dumb as stumps just make sure you have an extra hard drive that you have win 7 on and keep your alienware hard drive with your alienware os.....  problem solved for when your computer takes a dump like alienware/dell intend.... a 9800x2 is also your problem i refused to touch those gpus with a ten foot pole and skipped the nine series all together waiting for the 200 series and the fermi since my gem 8800 Ultra overclocked and put a wamping on any 9 series card at high resolutions.
2010/06/17 17:53:49
n9zn-extra
I have 2 years of warranty left with alienware and it is onsite but I have dumped it. It isn't worth messing with. I can fix this crap myself better than they can and a hell of a lot faster then they can.
 
This box is going fanless very soon. I am putting phase cooling on the cpu and water on n/s bridge, memory, power rectifiers, and gpu's and likely tossing these 9800 gx2 in the garbage an getting a few 480's.
 
Monty
 
P.S. the heating problem was not the machine or the case. It is confirmed to be NVIDIA software and I can duplicate it. Right now my gpus are ideling at 49 (gpu 1) and maxing out around 63. When I recreate the problem with nvidia software they go up to 102 C and climbing. Fixing the problem requires an uninstall of gpu drivers and reinstall.
 
The rising temps are triggered by changing the sli mode from quad to disabled in the NVIDIA Control Panel.
 
Monty
 
2010/10/09 08:12:19
Gariep
It didn't work for me..... tried to uninstall every driver and clean with driversweeper but it didn't work.   each time i try to install the driver i won«,t work.
 
i still get error code 43 in device manager on reboot
 
 
 
Any idea??
thanks!
2010/10/09 11:24:04
donta1979
Gariep

It didn't work for me..... tried to uninstall every driver and clean with driversweeper but it didn't work.   each time i try to install the driver i won«,t work.

i still get error code 43 in device manager on reboot



Any idea??
thanks!


Do you have anouther card you can test? It could very well be a bad card.
2010/10/09 11:25:43
Gariep
Thanks you but the card work just fine in vista
2010/10/09 11:42:51
Gariep
And there is hundreds of post about this error... i really don't understant that evga or nvidia isn't able to fix it
 
2010/10/09 16:03:46
n9zn-extra
EDIT: To begin I want to state no one in this thread gave me any bad information. I removed my prior words of disatisfaction with graphics cards and Alienware in this post when I edited and started all over. This is an accurate description of what happened to my computer. This is a lesson I believe may be more usual than unusual and far to often overlooked as a problem. It is hard for me to describe so please read carefully.
 
I learned something a few weeks ago. I found out my primary problem was a power issue. It seems two power things were going on and both directly affected my GPU's. Blaming Nvidia drivers or Alienware was still not completely out of line, bad drivers are bad drivers, and a PC built to order is expected to be built properly. I removed the prior text so as not to confuse the issue more.
 
Nvidia however recognized the driver issue and fixed it notifying those who used the bad driver to replace it with one behaving properly. Alienware on the other hand never recognized the manufacturing issue they had only to say the PSU I have was sufficient to power 2 9800 GX2 cards and having me reload a new copy of windows because nothing was wrong with the electronics. I have since found another Alienware user with the exact same issue, they sent a PC in for service and it was returned noteing no probelems were found with the computer and the OS was reloaded wipeing everything on the HDD. That PC owner later replaced his PSU with a larger capacity PSU and his problem was solved.
 
I found out the 1000 watt PSU in my machine was underpowering my GPU's which is why the PC seemed no better than the 2.4 gig PC I previously used with an old GPU. First I found I had a bad 6 to 8 pin conversion power cable (loose wires at a pin connection where 2 wires went into one pin) I got rid of the cable but the PC still was not running right using a good connector conversion cable. Thats when I remembered, when I added my second GPU I had to use a PSU cable Alienware had tucked away in the side of the computer case in order to have enough PSU PCIe connectors for two GPU cards.
 
Since I had been having power problems (conversion cable) I had already removed the second GPU. I then tried connecting a lead from each of the two different bundles of PCIe power leads from my PSU to the single GPU card (9800 gx2s have 2 power connectors.) Suddenly everything came to life with enough power and I was off and running correctly for the first time since the PC was built, nearly 3 years later. I went from MS FSX flight sim barely running to running at ultra settings and GPU temps dropped by over 20 degrees centigrade. Even World of Warcraft was hard to run as of the last release Nov. 2010. A PC store technician had previously looked at my PC and removed a killer NIC card ( year and a half ago) saying it was the likely the cause so I lost that for no real good reason and the PC vendor could not find the problem.
 
Alienware had initially only used a single PSU PCIe connector bundle to power the GPU (1 six pin, and 1 six to eight pin conversion cable) while each rail of the PSU was rated at 18 amps. Then I understood that each of those PSU PCIe power bundles of two PCIe connectors were attached to differant rails although they had a total of 4 PCIE connectors combined. Two connectors from the same PSU bundle provided 18 amps of current combined while the GPU required 24 or 28 amps (forgot which one per Nvidia chart). When the GPU had current demand placed on the PSU amperage draw went up and the GPU crashed. That problem is now gone since my GPU is drawing from 2 PSU power bundles (one PCIe connector each bundle), attached to differant rails of the PSU, providing 18 amps / rail for a total of 36 amps available to the GPU. More than enough power to run a single 9800 gx2.
 
Power issues are a mess they can look like almost anything but power was causing the problem and I feel a savy PC technician should have spotted this. This PC is no longer a pile of crap as I previously said, it is running like it should have all along now that it is getting proper power. Where I went wrong was buying this PC, reading things in many forums and assuming those problems were my problems, after all they each had the same symptoms. As of now I am thinking many of those writing what I read may  be having the same probelms I did, a lack of proper current to the GPUs or other component. This is the lesson I refered to at the beginning of this post.
 
Custom PC builders please, PLEASE, make sure the machines you build are providing enough power to the components. LOOKING AT A GPU/PSU WATTAGE CHART IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO KNOW IF A PSU WILL POWER A SPECIFIC GPU (or other component), CURRENT (amperage) MUST ALSO BE CONSIDERED. Please read that last sentence again, I can not stress how important it is.
 
Although I am not happy this happened I am happy the computer is finally running like it should have all along. I may have missed many, many, months of having a well running PC but thank goodness I didn't throw it in the trash as I did with one laptop I finally gave up on trying to fix. The cost of the desktop was all that saved it from that fate. Now I have an obsolete PC which finally is running correctly, this is an expensive lesson to learn.
 
This computer is still under a 4 year on site warranty which I have tossed in the trash. Make a mistake once I understand but repeate it over and over, then I will accept it as my loss and just move on. It took me 3 years to fix this PC but I fixed it on my own and learned alot. Next time I will build my own PC using EVGA parts and the technical advice on these boards both of which which I love more than ever now.
2011/03/09 17:46:35
rmg92uk
I have done this twice, I have ruled out heating issues, I have tried all drivers for my card from 191-258. I have used driver sweeper, I have used ccleaner to check for DLL issues, I have tried new memory, and even adding extra memory, I am running a windows XP 32 bit, 2.20Ghz Athlon AMD 64 processor, PNY/nVidia GeForce 8500GT graphics card. I tried everything I can think of, as well as this process 2 times, and my graphical errors still persist. I really do not understand it, the error just all of a sudden popped up out of no where. I was playing games for a little bit, went to take a break, came back and started up Fallout: New Vegas, and then I enter the worldspace and all a sudden it crashes, causing the whole screen to go dead. From what I know, it's what you'd call dead pixelation. After I wait about a minute, it unfreezes, except the screen still wont move, and the only thing that will play is the sound. But it is not just Fallout, it is many other games as well.

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