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Anyone know about water-block compatibility with these new 6GB cards? Are the compatible with current reference design 780 water-blocks?

They are, yes.

My cards shipped late yesterday (or at least that's when the system updated).  I should have them both by Tuesday according to UPS tracking.  The wait continues! Fortunately I have a 2nd desktop with an R9 280x so I'm not totally hosed on gaming while I wait.

Hey guys, I just got 6gb GTX 780 but had a couple concerns. 1) Geforce experience does not recognize my card. It wouldn't let me install the graphics driver through the program. Not a big deal as I just installed the 337.50 from Nvidia's website. 2. Some games won't recognize the extra 3gb of memory. Rome 2 Total War, for example, would still only recognize 3072MB of memory. This is also not a big deal as I just checkmark the unlimited video memory option. 
 
Anyone else with the card seeing the same issues as me? Thanks!

jjtheriffraff
Hey guys, I just got 6gb GTX 780 but had a couple concerns. 1) Geforce experience does not recognize my card. It wouldn't let me install the graphics driver through the program. Not a big deal as I just installed the 337.50 from Nvidia's website. 2. Some games won't recognize the extra 3gb of memory. Rome 2 Total War, for example, would still only recognize 3072MB of memory. This is also not a big deal as I just checkmark the unlimited video memory option. 
 
Anyone else with the card seeing the same issues as me? Thanks!

Wanted to seek out the best advice I could for your Geforce Experience problem. So see below     =)
 
 

maniacvvv
Nvidia GeForce Experience
 
The -number one- reason this software was developed is to gain complete access and two way communication abilities, so that information about your hardware, OS and software configuration can be gathered and sent to Nvidia for resale.
THIS SOFTWARE COLLECTS INFORMATION THAT MAKES NVIDIA -MONEY- 
 
All the features of this software are -secondary- to its primary function (making money by collecting and then selling your info)
-->and are only there to "entice" you to install and use the software. By doing so you agree to Nvidia's TOS and PP
 
*Since this "collect your data and sell it" model is widely used (Steam, Origin, Xfire, Synapse...etc) and accepted by many users, its NOT really that big of a deal.
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The REAL problem is the "GFE" program itself..
-->it does not work correctly and in many cases is one of the PRIMARY reasons for user performance problems and driver install/game issues.
Nvidia does NOT support the GFE development team with enough money or staffing/talent to even BEGIN to be able to make the features WORK
-->Its basicly a "garage" operation of coding nerds (not gamers) without a proper budget, equipment or staff
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Lets take a DETAILED look at Nvidia's sales pitch for the "NEW" GeForce Experience 2.0 posted right here at the EVGA forums
 http://www.evga.com/articles/00834/
 
 
First: The HOOK (sales pitch)

 Wow! that sounds great.... custom software for my Nvidia card (directly from Nvidia, so its got to work perfectly)
That updates my drivers, makes my games run better and I can record and show off my gameplay. And all of this for free, thats awesome!!
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Here is the FAQ page at Nvidia for the GFE http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience/faq
And here is the Nvidia privacy policy http://www.geforce.com/privacy-policy
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This feature is a primary selling point for the GFE
It claims to allow you to "one click" from the desktop and install your Nvidia driver. That sounds GREAT.
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Except for the realities of how different users systems are KNOWN to be, how different their OS version setups can be, what browser/browser config they might be using, and of course the biggest problem of all -what might be running on the system- when a user attempts to update after the box pops up on the desktop.....
thats BAD
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Nvidia does NOT warn you in ANY WAY, nor does the GFE or Nvidia driver installer give a user any notice of ANY KIND...
That something (software) is running that might be BROKEN, should the driver install proceed. Its just going to go ahead and install and possibly break it.
Nor will it tell you that you have ANY problems, that could cause the driver install to FAIL. Its just going to run, and then tell you it "failed".
thats BAD
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Once you use the GFE to update your Nvidia driver and it gives you a "FAILED to Install" message, you are on your own.
There are NO FEATURES to diagnose or to fix driver install problems contained in the GFE program.
So a user has no idea what has happened. Running it again will generate the same error....
Thats BAD
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The GFE (by default) will install every single Nvidia driver component using a "express install" (including many that your system does NOT support and/or you will not use) and does NOT remove saved information from the Nvidia control panel.
Should a user have made changes in the NVCP that have been causing issues or crashing, the new driver install will apply those incorrect settings and those problems will follow the user into his new driver install..
thats BAD 
 
 

 Supported games list http://www.geforce.com/ge...rience/supported-games
THIS feature is one of the main reasons that Novice users install the GFE. It is also one of the MAIN reasons for -serious- problems in games should it be used.
The primary issue with this "optimization" is that it needs to actually go directly into a games files--> AND MODIFY THEM for this feature to work.
The problems arise when the GFE writes -incorrect data- into these game files, causing SERIOUS issues that are extremely difficult or impossible to recover from without reinstalling your entire game.
Many users have damaged their game "settings config" files in this manner (but don't know it) and are now unable to play that game without problems.
The GFE will NOT tell you this has happened, and will not FIX it for you...
-->and will not even notify you, that Nvidia KNOWS it broke your game files and KNOWS how to fix them. (the corrupted config files must be rebuilt)
Thats more than BAD, its disgusting
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One of the worst falsehoods about this feature, is the fact that it does NOT help users understand the limitations of their system config.
Nor does it HELP them get it setup correctly. It basically sets everything to MAX or to MED or to LOW without giving the user any real information on WHY certain settings are effecting FPS, Image Quality or Gameplay...
thats BAD 
 
 

 This feature is nice, as GPU acceleration is very helpful when recording gameplay.
The primary problem is that users do NOT understand the "costs" to running such software.. to themselves or to others.
IE--> Game performance, Internet performance and hard drive/SSD stress
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Its just terrible when mid-range/low-end players are using this software when playing with others and seriously impacts the gaming experience of other players.
thats BAD
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My personal observations and experience about the GeForce Experience
 
As a very active member of the EVGA forums who helps and supports users experiencing problems with Nvidia drivers and driver related issues...
The #1 cause of the issues I work on every day, is the GeForce Experience
 
Its default install behavior and its corruption of third party programs like Precision (and many others) is APPALLING!
Its -damaging- of game config files has left many thousands of users with broken games (and many don't even know this has happened)
 
The VERY first thing I ask a user reporting problems...
--->Do you have the GFE installed?
 
Thats very BAD indeed.
 
I recommend that users do not install or use the GFE for the reasons I have posted
--> its just not worth the problems it can create
 
NVIDIA HALL OF SHAME--> https://forums.geforce.co...10/geforce-experience/
 
*There is even WORSE news about the GFE
There has been -serious- talk coming out of Nvidia about making the GFE -->REQUIRED<-- for Nvidia driver installs.
Let us hope that this never occurs 
 
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The opinions in this post are personal and are completely my own  
 
 
 

Hello @xrayman, thanks for the reply. I personally never had any problems with GeForce experience in the past. It's been a convenient tool for me to update my drivers and record gameplays.

Unfortunately that post doesn't help me fix my issues. Again, this is not a big deal for me. But I would like some official support from Nvidia.

jjtheriffraff
Hello @xrayman, thanks for the reply. I personally never had any problems with GeForce experience in the past. It's been a convenient tool for me to update my drivers and record gameplays.

Unfortunately that post doesn't help me fix my issues. Again, this is not a big deal for me. But I would like some official support from Nvidia.

You may want to try seeking the problem out here also:  https://forums.geforce.com/

any ideas if these 780 6 gb fit inside evga hardon air?

They are the exact same size as the regular 3gb 780. Only change was overall VRAM amount. Doesn't change the size of the card.

Still no news about step up for reference 6gb 780?  I only have a month left for my step up.

From what they have said, reference version isn't planned