Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 16:47:07
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bobmitch Using these drivers...Precision will not apply overclocks to my 580SC. When I set the clocks and memory...hit apply and everything goes to 0. Not good for me Back to 290.53 and overclocks stay put. Oh well...maybe the next set. 290.53 have been some of the best I have used to date Which version of Precision?
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 16:58:50
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Seems like with this driver it makes the GPU's go into 3D Mode more often, like it is more sensitive. I can not figure out what exactly is causing it though.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 17:13:39
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whats with all these beta drivers, I'm still waiting for some WHQL ones to replace 285.62, they are now over 3 months old
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 18:38:53
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Disgusting Nvidia Driver So, the last two Nvidia Beta drivers would not even install correctly on my system... (SLI would not enable) This driver installed correctly and allowed me to enable SLI, for (3) hot restarts and some testing all seemed fine and I was looking forward to sitting down after dinner and doing a night of testing... BUT--> upon reboot from a cold shutdown -bam- the system hung at the Windows logo screen. Forced shutdown and a normal reboot resulted in failure to properly detect my videocards and load the Nvidia driver. This is getting to be a joke that has gone to far... at my personal expense. Either Nvidia will release drivers that will work correctly (Install, Load and Configure properly) or it appears that I will be stuck on the 285.79 driver forever. I am not discussing "normal" driver issues, I am talking of basic functionality. EVGA needs to be aware that I will not suffer from this inablity to install newer driversets forever, and will be seeking replacement cards or a refund if this driver situation is not fixed. I will be posting a very angry thread on this subject later.... I'm quite pissed off at the idiots at Nvidia over this. In Nvidia's efforts to fix a problem I DO NOT HAVE (TLDR), they have now broken the driversets on my config.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 18:43:32
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maniacvvv Disgusting Nvidia Driver So, the last two Nvidia Beta drivers would not even install correctly on my system... This driver installed correctly and allowed me to enable SLI, for (3) hot restarts and some testing all seemed fine and I was looking forward to sitting down after dinner and doing a night of testing... BUT--> upon reboot from a cold shutdown -bam- the system hung at the Windows logo screen. Forced shutdown and reboot resulted in failure to properly detect my videocards and load the Nvidia driver. This is getting to be a joke that has gone to far... at my personal expense. Either Nvidia will release drivers that will work correctly (Install, Load and Configure properly) or it appears that I will be stuck on the 285.79 driver forever. I am not discussing driver issues, I am talking of basic functionality. EVGA needs to be aware that I will not suffer from this inablity to install newer driversets forever, and will be seeking replacement cards or a refund if this driver situation is not fixed. I will be posting a very angry tread on this subject later.... I'm quite pissed off What does driver instability have to do with EVGA when it is a Nvidia problem. You just said an earlier driver is stable. I highly doubt new Cards will fix your issue.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 18:53:26
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I doubt new cards will... Thats EVGA's and Nvidia's problem. This is a EVGA e760 Classified MB with EVGA GTX 580 videocards.... -->and I cannot appear to use any driverset later than 285.79 I did not buy top end parts to suffer from inablity to boot my system with a current approved graphics driver installed. I am not a novice user and have been using Nvidia videocards/drivers for over 10yrs, and I have never seen anything like the current state of the recent Nvidia driver releases, ever. At this time, I am willing to wait and see what happens... but 3 drivers in a row is NOT looking like anyone gives a damn. I can live with 285.79 as none of the later releases have anything I need for what I am running... But if BF3 gets a serious driver update or ARMA 3 comes out with a driver I cannot use. EVGA is going to have a -serious- problem with me
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 19:39:06
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don't blame evga on the drivers, they can only add to the site what nvidia supplies them just like all the other brands.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 19:50:56
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_Nite_ don't blame evga on the drivers, they can only add to the site what nvidia supplies them just like all the other brands. Yea, I really fail to see how EVGA has anything to do with anything. You may as well have MSI or Asus cards in the system, you would have the same problems. Nvidia's Chip, Nvidia's Drivers, Nvidia's Problems.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 19:56:02
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That's me reverting back to 285.79
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 19:56:13
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_Nite_ don't blame evga on the drivers, they can only add to the site what nvidia supplies them just like all the other brands. 1+. It's 100% Nvidia's crap. That's why I'm possibly gonna go Crossfire with 7950's soon.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 19:56:49
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Nvidia has been getting free beta testing from users for 3+ months. WHQL is another 3 weeks away. And that is if it does not get "delayed". Either way. We are talking almost 4 months of beta testing. Is that how bad this driver mess is? Nvidia is only capable of releasing betas? Absolutely pathetic on Nvidia's part. So instead of getting the drivers together. What do they do? Release new cards soon and the previous cards will most likely get put on the back burner. This will be my last Nvidia card. And I have always bought Nvidia for years. Only had 1 AMD card before. Evga is to blame as well with the other manufactures. They are selling them with garbage driver support atm. All of em need to toot their horns at Nvidia and let them know. They need to get their crap together and fix this driver mess.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 20:02:53
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FattysGoneWild Nvidia has been getting free beta testing from users for 3+ months. WHQL is another 3 weeks away. And that is if it does not get "delayed". Either way. We are talking almost 4 months of beta testing. Is that how bad this driver mess is? Nvidia is only capable of releasing betas? Absolutely pathetic on Nvidia's part. So instead of getting the drivers together. What do they do? Release new cards soon and the previous cards will most likely get put on the back burner. This will be my last Nvidia card. And I have always bought Nvidia for years. Only had 1 AMD card before. Evga is to blame as well with the other manufactures. They are selling them with garbage driver support atm. All of em need to toot their horns at Nvidia and let them know. They need to get their crap together and fix this driver mess. You won't have any better luck with AMD/ATI, yes true they update thier drivers more often then Nvidia but they have thier share of problems as well. The one and only time I ever owned a ATI card was a 128MB 9600 XT AGP back in the day, I had problems with it too, but I didn't have a choice cause at the time Nvidia was having issues getting DX9 working on the Geforce 5 FX series.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 20:03:59
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Drivers don't bother me none. To me a Beta is no different than a WHQL, because even WHQL may not work for you for some reason. Sticking to Nvidia, AMD is no better than Nvidia when it comes to drivers, unless that has changed recently and I am unaware of it.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 20:07:58
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I wont lie. I don't know how the current side of AMD is with drivers. I would imagine though. It has to be better then Nvidia's current state? I remember when Nvidia had quality drivers. Seems like the last 1 1/2-2 years or so. It has gone down hill.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 20:10:45
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FattysGoneWild I wont lie. I don't know how the current side of AMD is with drivers. I would imagine though. It has to be better then Nvidia's current state? I remember when Nvidia had quality drivers. Seems like the last 1 1/2-2 years or so. It has gone down hill. its the same deal with games too, developers are just going downhill everywhere, I do indeed miss the good old days
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 20:19:02
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What really chaps my hide, is that I belive this issue is caused by Nvidia's TLDR "fix" Only problem is, I have never experienced that issue -ever- with my current config with drivers up to 285.79 Nvidia's "fix" has now turned my dual 580's into bricks, with the last three driversets. Clearly is just a minor bug effecting my e760/Win7 64 and my SLI'd GTX 580's... The reason I am so upset, is that nobody appears to give a damn, the situation is getting worse and neither EVGA or Nvidia seem to have ANY interest at fixing it. They will be finding out I am not a customer who paid $1000 for bricks Either I have (2) 580's that work (with drivers that install, and configure properly) with approved 500 series driversets, or EVGA sends me cards that will, or I will be getting my money back -period- A driver that will not even boot into windows (properly detect and load), renders the videocard useless.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 20:26:03
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They don't give a damn because everytime a new series of cards comes out people buy them up like candy. On a side note, the newest beta driver for me is (knock on wood) working good so far. I don't have a nice 500 series card, but hell, I paid good money for this GTX 285 I feel I should still recieve driver support but I understand thats not how it works =) maniacvvv
What really chaps my hide, is that I belive this issue is caused by Nvidia's TLDR "fix"
Only problem is, I have never experienced that issue -ever- with my current config with drivers up to 285.79
Nvidia's "fix" has now turned my dual 580's into bricks, with the last three driversets.
Clearly is just a minor bug effecting my e760/Win7 64 and my SLI'd GTX 580's...
The reason I am so upset, is that nobody appears to give a damn, the situation is getting worse and neither EVGA or Nvidia seem to have ANY interest at fixing it.
They will be finding out I am not a customer who paid $1000 for bricks
Either I have (2) 580's that work (with drivers that install, and configure properly) with approved 500 series driversets, or EVGA sends me cards that will, or I will be getting my money back -period-
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 20:26:52
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maniacvvv What really chaps my hide, is that I belive this issue is caused by Nvidia's TLDR "fix" Only problem is, I have never experienced that issue -ever- with my current config with drivers up to 285.79 Nvidia's "fix" has now turned my dual 580's into bricks, with the last three driversets. Clearly is just a minor bug effecting my e760/Win7 64 and my SLI'd GTX 580's... The reason I am so upset, is that nobody appears to give a damn, the situation is getting worse and neither EVGA or Nvidia seem to have ANY interest at fixing it. They will be finding out I am not a customer who paid $1000 for bricks Either I have (2) 580's that work (with drivers that install, and configure properly) with approved 500 series driversets, or EVGA sends me cards that will, or I will be getting my money back -period- I understand your frustration but you also have to remember its a very low market for SLI,tri SLI and quad sli people, most gamers just have a single video card. Same deal with multi monitor surround, its a low market for that as well. many gamers are just on single monitors. Sorry to say but single card + single monitor still ='s the most reliable setup.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 20:26:54
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you? how do you think all the gtx590 owners are knowing there cards got locked out so they cannot overclock them to hide a nvidia problem? you think im happy i spent $1500 on 2 video cards they they are not telling anyone why they locked out the voltage on?
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 20:29:59
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I agree, but damn, thats a lot of money to get unreliable hardware... NVIDIA needs to slow down and get things right instead of showing off hardware, ya? _Nite_
maniacvvv
What really chaps my hide, is that I belive this issue is caused by Nvidia's TLDR "fix"
Only problem is, I have never experienced that issue -ever- with my current config with drivers up to 285.79
Nvidia's "fix" has now turned my dual 580's into bricks, with the last three driversets.
Clearly is just a minor bug effecting my e760/Win7 64 and my SLI'd GTX 580's...
The reason I am so upset, is that nobody appears to give a damn, the situation is getting worse and neither EVGA or Nvidia seem to have ANY interest at fixing it.
They will be finding out I am not a customer who paid $1000 for bricks
Either I have (2) 580's that work (with drivers that install, and configure properly) with approved 500 series driversets, or EVGA sends me cards that will, or I will be getting my money back -period-
I understand your frustration
but you also have to remember its a very low market for tri SLI and quad sli people, most gamers just have a single video card. Same deal with multi monitor surround, its a low market for that as well. many gamers are just on single monitors.
Sorry to say but single card + single monitor still ='s the most reliable setup.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 21:24:26
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don't blame evga on the drivers, they can only add to the site what nvidia supplies them just like all the other brands.
Yea, I really fail to see how EVGA has anything to do with anything. You may as well have MSI or Asus cards in the system, you would have the same problems. Nvidia's Chip, Nvidia's Drivers, Nvidia's Problems.
All graphics card companies that sell nvidia chip cards should care alot about this and be up nvidia's butt about it.If they dont its very very bad business.I dont care who makes it if your the one selling it your just as responsible as the company designing and mass producing it.Period!
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/01/31 21:41:47
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_Nite_ its the same deal with games too, developers are just going downhill everywhere, I do indeed miss the good old days The good old days are the same as today. Drivers were ****, good or bad, games were either good or bad, hit or miss, and well ... drivers were either good or bad, or ****. You're just waxing nostalgic over the thought that it's better. I've had nvidia and ati cards all the way back from when ATI Wonder cards were being sold, and when nvidia's flagship card with the riva128 paired with a couple of Voodoo2's in SLI. Though I do remember the matrox hype train at the time too. Oh and SGI..heh. Well there's always CL too. Nah I shouldn't get on that tangent.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/02/01 04:08:13
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yeah right....nvidia always had good driver support right from the 6800 series up till the latest 500 series...that being said..i haven't installed another driver since 270.61 .and will not...i'm not going to be a guinea pig for some new driver team trying to get their butts screwed on correctly..its getting sickening what nvidia have turned out to be...a mass seller of bricks.i too believe that the company responsible for selling the nvidia product should as well develop their own driver teams in case they have problems.such as the ones that have plagued us for the last year or so...wow thats a long time for some moron to say ...'hey lets go back to the drawing board to the beginning when we stole amd's client base because we had such rock solid cards,obviously money has gotten in the way of quality..typical ,,,,,,,big business running the planet.i'm ashamed of what the drivers have developed into...and i never had a hit and miss or whatever you're trying to convey...i just plugged in the card and it worked great after updating to the latest whql's....now its a freaking gamble...good luck to those who have the desire to turn those lovely cards into bricks so some moronic driver team can experiment,,,,,, Hitcho _Nite_ its the same deal with games too, developers are just going downhill everywhere, I do indeed miss the good old days The good old days are the same as today. Drivers were ****, good or bad, games were either good or bad, hit or miss, and well ... drivers were either good or bad, or ****. You're just waxing nostalgic over the thought that it's better. I've had nvidia and ati cards all the way back from when ATI Wonder cards were being sold, and when nvidia's flagship card with the riva128 paired with a couple of Voodoo2's in SLI. Though I do remember the matrox hype train at the time too. Oh and SGI..heh. Well there's always CL too. Nah I shouldn't get on that tangent.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/02/01 04:57:34
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This is like politic. People blame so much but afterwars they will be quiet and accept everything. The reason for this is because of the global threatment where they individualize the humanity. Unfortunately there is no association in the humanity anymore.The gamers can solve this problem by simple not purshase any new card from nvdia so they will action but yeah how you get people to it to boycot their cards for a period. Sorry that i go to political :P
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/02/01 06:30:41
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Using these drivers...Precision will not apply overclocks to my 580SC. When I set the clocks and memory...hit apply and everything goes to 0. Not good for me Back to 290.53 and overclocks stay put. Oh well...maybe the next set. 290.53 have been some of the best I have used to date
Which version of Precision?
Hi Jacob... I am using Precision 2.1.2 I can set up new settings...example...set clock from 797 to 850. Memory to 2100 ...they will be there...the minute I hit "apply" they all turn to 0 and that's that...
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/02/01 06:59:46
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Johnny Quest yeah right....nvidia always had good driver support right from the 6800 series up till the latest 500 series...that being said..i haven't installed another driver since 270.61 . Pft. They had better stable driver support, they didn't have good driver support. Remember that fiasco not so long ago where they were baking videocards? Or the gl/dx hangover problem? Or the driver voltage hangover issue? The last 12mo of TDR problems on fermi cards? There is a difference between good, and stable. ATI has had between good, and stable, and more performance and beyond poor. Just like nvidia. Probably the best driver they've released recently was 270.61 or 275.33's for nvidia. The best for ATI was probably the 10.4 or 10.9. You may have never had the problem that I've pointed out. But I was in the business long enough to have seen it, and I still hear about it often enough that it makes your head spin. It's not actually nearly as bad as it was when AGP first came out on the scene. PCIE fixed a lot of that. You want to see disasters of an epic scale, try getting ATI or Nvidia card to work on a first gen AGP bus without blood sacrifices and voodoo magic. The obvious thing if you don't want to be a tester of new drivers, don't use beta drivers. Stick with whql, probably about 6mo old or so, and go on your way. You'll be fine, and then you don't have to worry about anything enthusiast again. See? Nice and easy. But rant less about the 'evil big business' if that's such a problem for you, launch your own SI startup and compete against them. There's two big companies in the field so there's plenty of room for a third, maybe go buy matrox or SiS. At best you're thinking wishfully about companies branching drivers from the core. Too much work, not enough ROI. Writing drivers isn't like making a miniport to sniff out packets from a router.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/02/01 08:10:39
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Hitcho lol....didn't even mention the word beta....you seem to be about a nine on the tension scale.....breath....breath....he he.i also had the gtx 295 toaster oven...and never tried a beta with it as well...but never had a problem with whql driver sets for that fiasco either....as well i believe i typed in ....up until the 500 series ....reading is easy if you take your time to actually take in the full context of it all.....he he Johnny Quest yeah right....nvidia always had good driver support right from the 6800 series up till the latest 500 series...that being said..i haven't installed another driver since 270.61 . Pft. They had better stable driver support, they didn't have good driver support. Remember that fiasco not so long ago where they were baking videocards? Or the gl/dx hangover problem? Or the driver voltage hangover issue? The last 12mo of TDR problems on fermi cards? There is a difference between good, and stable. ATI has had between good, and stable, and more performance and beyond poor. Just like nvidia. Probably the best driver they've released recently was 270.61 or 275.33's for nvidia. The best for ATI was probably the 10.4 or 10.9. You may have never had the problem that I've pointed out. But I was in the business long enough to have seen it, and I still hear about it often enough that it makes your head spin. It's not actually nearly as bad as it was when AGP first came out on the scene. PCIE fixed a lot of that. You want to see disasters of an epic scale, try getting ATI or Nvidia card to work on a first gen AGP bus without blood sacrifices and voodoo magic. The obvious thing if you don't want to be a tester of new drivers, don't use beta drivers. Stick with whql, probably about 6mo old or so, and go on your way. You'll be fine, and then you don't have to worry about anything enthusiast again. See? Nice and easy. But rant less about the 'evil big business' if that's such a problem for you, launch your own SI startup and compete against them. There's two big companies in the field so there's plenty of room for a third, maybe go buy matrox or SiS. At best you're thinking wishfully about companies branching drivers from the core. Too much work, not enough ROI. Writing drivers isn't like making a miniport to sniff out packets from a router.
post edited by Johnny Quest - 2012/02/01 08:13:40
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Hitcho
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/02/01 08:38:57
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Johnny Quest lol....didn't even mention the word beta....you seem to be about a nine on the tension scale.....breath....breath....he he.i also had the gtx 295 toaster oven...and never tried a beta with it as well...but never had a problem with whql driver sets for that fiasco either....as well i believe i typed in ....up until the 500 series ....reading is easy if you take your time to actually take in the full context of it all.....he he You implied it twice, maybe three times. Depending on which way you want to try and make sense of your post. Tension is relative, this is my relaxed face. But it's difficult to understand something, when someone can't write coherently. Which in turn context has to be applied to, just a useful tip.
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/02/01 09:55:38
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no real problems using these or any of the latest beta's. the only thing that ive noticed is that for them to install correctly is that i have to go safe mode and run driver sweeper why? i dont know. 1 thing ive had to do was reinstall my os do to a malware problem and ever since i did that its been a bit tricky to install video drivers. before the malware i nver had a problem with lan drivers or vid drivers not sure what to make of that other then maybe window 7 has folders on the drive that nevr get deleted no matter how many times it gets wiped just a thought
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Re:geforce 295.51 beta out!
2012/02/01 09:59:51
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Are you overclocking by any chance? If you are try to return the overclocking to default levels. Install the new drivers. See if they work. Then start your overclock again. maniacvvv What really chaps my hide, is that I belive this issue is caused by Nvidia's TLDR "fix" Only problem is, I have never experienced that issue -ever- with my current config with drivers up to 285.79 Nvidia's "fix" has now turned my dual 580's into bricks, with the last three driversets. Clearly is just a minor bug effecting my e760/Win7 64 and my SLI'd GTX 580's... The reason I am so upset, is that nobody appears to give a damn, the situation is getting worse and neither EVGA or Nvidia seem to have ANY interest at fixing it. They will be finding out I am not a customer who paid $1000 for bricks Either I have (2) 580's that work (with drivers that install, and configure properly) with approved 500 series driversets, or EVGA sends me cards that will, or I will be getting my money back -period- A driver that will not even boot into windows (properly detect and load), renders the videocard useless.
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