Folks... Not commenting on maniacvvv Posts in this thread any further...... But a quick look at older posts sheds a light... Move along.. let it go... (Link)

Yep and I suppose changing the speaker count in those same files so you can hear something is a big hack too.
use what few brain cells you have left and move along now and what ever you are smoking I want some.

edit whoops sorry maximus

Agreed Mr Beans.

The game has a few issues, so what. All games do, thats because of the connections and configs of the players and the servers and connections of the hosts. But this "Mod" is a flat out cheat. As if the game coding was not predictive enough, these losers are inserting a line of code that "pushes" their client hit detection on the server poll. And lets be clear, its not a "setting" or an "option". Its adding a line of dev code to the game that nobody who does not know about it has access to. Lets also be clear, many players do not "ping" the server like they feel they should, nor does the in game "server poll latency" make alot of people happy... But the idiots posting this hack fail to understand the truth about BFBC2, that over 50% playing are barely able to run it and most peoples connections are under spec for the bandwith used in this game. Their answer to "I hit him dead on and he didnt die" is to mod their client file, instead of wondering what connection or fps the guy they shot at had, or how well their own connection or rig was running at that moment.

Aside from the fact that the insertion of lines of code is cheating. I would like to know what would keep anyone from inserting false or fake latency numbers into the line of code? And what effect that would have on the hosting server or on other players own latency to the hosting server during the poll....

A cheat or hack is just that...  its unfair to other players. As we have seen in some of the posts in this thread, honesty and fairness are not of any concern to some players. Nor is respect to someone who has an honest and factual opinion.
 
I run a stock game install with the given in-game adjustments and nothing more, always have and always will.
 
Respect from other players is earned, not modded with extra lines of code in public multiplayer.
 
A few in this thread have shown their lack of sportsmanship, respect and honesty. To them I say, for what? Its just a video game your supposed to have fun playing. Its types like these that ruin that fun for everyone.
 
 

maniacvvv

Agreed Mr Beans.

The game has a few issues, so what. All games do, thats because of the connections and configs of the players and the servers and connections of the hosts. But this "Mod" is a flat out cheat. As if the game coding was not predictive enough, these losers are inserting a line of code that "pushes" their client hit detection on the server poll. And lets be clear, its not a "setting" or an "option". Its adding a line of dev code to the game that nobody who does not know about it has access to. Lets also be clear, many players do not "ping" the server like they feel they should, nor does the in game "server poll latency" make alot of people happy... But the idiots posting this hack fail to understand the truth about BFBC2, that over 50% playing are barely able to run it and most peoples connections are under spec for the bandwith used in this game. Their answer to "I hit him dead on and he didnt die" is to mod their client file, instead of wondering what connection or fps the guy they shot at had, or how well their own connection or rig was running at that moment.

Aside from the fact that the insertion of lines of code is cheating. I would like to know what would keep anyone from inserting false or fake latency numbers into the line of code? And what effect that would have on the hosting server or on other players own latency to the hosting server during the poll....

A cheat or hack is just that...  its unfair to other players. As we have seen in some of the posts in this thread, honesty and fairness are not of any concern to some players. Nor is respect to someone who has an honest and factual opinion.
 
I run a stock game install with the given in-game adjustments and nothing more, always have and always will.
 
Respect from other players is earned, not modded with extra lines of code in public multiplayer.
 
A few in this thread have shown their lack of sportsmanship, respect and honesty. To them I say, for what? Its just a video game your supposed to have fun playing. Its types like these that ruin that fun for everyone.
 
 

I think the point is that this game issue is not the same as "all games". This game is way more inconsistent for me, and I know for myself that hardware and bandwidth are not the reason why. I really don't know much about this in game latency stuff accept that apparently it's more of an advantage for some then others in this game. If it's supposed to give players living farther from the server a better connection, I can tell you that it is really inconsistent, way more negative then average, because I am that person 100% of the time. Technically, maybe you are right. Sensibly, it's questionable. I just wish the game behaved the same as the other BF games for me.  I do appreciate your enthusiasm regarding cheating by the way, but one thing you are not going to convince me of with this game is a level playing field. If we all were playing on a lan you would convince me.

maniacvvv

PM and warning recived

EVGA gaming clan noted for posting this thread in public, and will be treated as such in public by myself and important others who I shall inform.

I can understand and accept my responsiblity for my posts (I was upset and posted mad). But how sad that the Fourm Mod here at EVGA cannot be bothered to remove a post that is so clearly about cheating, -and- overlook the personal attacks of others in this thread. I see my name, profile and pervious posts listed...

I guess that speaks for itself

Oh well, the gaming world if full of those who are "less"

If you would rather handle this in public rather than PM, cheating is not a violation of the TOS.  Cheating is also subjective (based upon ones opinion).  Like I said in your PM, I understand your frustrations but you can convey that here differently.  Your comments will provoke a negative response from the members.   I will go back and look at the other posts to see where you have been called names and issue warnings.
 
EDIT:  I don't see evidence to suggest this.

To MOD: No, thats ok bro... I had it coming for the way I posted.

Its the content of this post that has me really going. But I'm done and have made my point.

Thanks for responding
 
I do hope that the next PB update includes a scan for non standard .ini and config files 

Actually, out of range variables usually get you a kick from PB so you can put them in range before rejoining the game.

ILikeBeans

pauljlindner

If it was a cheat, they could easily have PB scan the variables and ban anyone for out of range variables. If you don't get the ban then it's fair game. Not only is the game about the ability to point and click, it's about knowledge. I'm going to have to try this out due to curiosity of how the function works.

I have to disagree with you to a certain extent. I have seen obvious hacks that were not kicked by PB, but not so much in this game as others. I don't think PB should be the deciding factor. Some players would take advantage of exploits in 2142, which would leave it to admins to kick. I personally never did this, and don't laugh because I didn't It just isn't cool IMO.

"Obvious hacks" are third party programs, difficult for PB to detect if it doesn't know what to look for. PB also has functions to scan game files for modifications/changes which are easier to find.

Exploits are what they are. They can only be delt with by a game update and policed by server admins.

Here's a "morality check" for you. If I put a dot in the middle of my screen so that I know where the center is when the game doesn't give me cross hairs to tell me where the center is, is it cheating or thinking outside the box?

Changing variables is what I was referring to as fair game.

pauljlindner

Here's a "morality check" for you. If I put a dot in the middle of my screen so that I know where the center is when the game doesn't give me cross hairs to tell me where the center is, is it cheating or thinking outside the box?

Changing variables is what I was referring to as fair game.

No check needed, I agree with you about the variables.

MSim

Gamers have been doing this since Quake 2 days. It's called tweaking a config to get better hit registry.

If its anything like  cl_interpolate 0  was in CS:Source i could see developer hard coding it or leagues kicking players for it. I haven't tested this yet, not sure if i need to adjust it.



Afterburner not allowed to see the picture above.

1Ping Talk about an unfair advantage..... You Hacker... LOL

MSim

I can already picture AfterBurner face. 

What the.................. I knew it!.......... OMG..................OMG......................OMG.................

I feel soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better now! Seriously....

 Well spoken Maniac. Adding code is a gutless hard up round about way of making up for lack of skill, lack of high end hardware, or the most common reason..........you play from bum fu** Egypt.
 Oh I play from the dark side of the moon thus I have every right to add code!........Why? Because theres nobody saying I can't!
 
 Sry all, no disrespect meant to anyone but that's my take!
 
SICKOFU-CRABS/Dennis

lol...

and I thought I was a whiner...geez, this maniac takes the cake!

ShibbyDPHS

maniacvvv

What is being discussed in this thread is Cheating

Sugarcoat however you wish, it does not change the facts.

If I play against you in the server with my client files intact, YOU will have an unfair advantage with your modded files.

That is cheating

Of course, I will HAVE to Mod my files also... so that the playing field is level?

We have seen where this leads to in "other" games... a total hackfest, where the guy with the most client mod wins and any player running stock (Honest, without mods) does not have a chance.

I enjoy playing BFBC2, if this kind of crap is going to be allowed I wont be playing much longer.

You want better hit detection.. EARN it with experiance

You want better server polling, PAY FOR IT with a better connection 

Modding your client files will not make you a better player, it only pad your stats... By cheating 

Uninstall seriously. Go back to BF Heroes...

 
Disrespectful
 
Please feel free to step out from behind your universities nework filters, and enjoy being killed fairly like the rest of us... Nob.
 
I wouldnt have BF heros, Steam or X-fire on my system even if you paid me... I am an honest player who runs a clean system and connection. No filters or background P2P needed to enhance my kill ratio.