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http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2666-evga-heat-solution-thermal-imaging-of-vrm-1080-ftwNoise is at ~38.6dB for the GTX 1080 FTW before the VBIOS mod (when the VRM was much hotter), with fan RPM auto-controlled to its peak of around ~1600RPM. The post-VBIOS change (simulated based on EVGA's direct advice to GN, by simply changing the fan RPM to 2200 manually) is at 47.1dB, or a perceived increase that is just shy of 2x to a listener. 47.1dB Wat. I think I'm not the only one when I say: at that noise level I would never buy your card. I would never have bought it! You know what EVGA? I don't your "fix", I want to get my money back or exchange my FTW for a different card that doesn't have these issues. Either by you or by another manufacturer. Your "fix" makes the card twice as loud and doesn't even address thermal pads on the RAM not reaching the plate. What exactly is your business strategy here? You should exchange the entire cooling solution through RMA or offer people an entirely different card with a different cooling solution. Or give us our money back.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/03 14:45:35
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Ya, 47dB is incredibly loud compared to the original spec.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/03 14:48:09
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evgacustomer01 are you saying that the sound before was only 23.55dB? If you want 0dB I would recommend a Custom Water Loop or the Hybrid Cooler. LevelsPassenger car at 65 mph at 25 ft (77 dB); freeway at 50 ft from pavement edge 10 a.m. (76 dB). Living room music (76 dB); radio or TV-audio, vacuum cleaner (70 dB). Arbitrary base of comparison. Upper 70s are annoyingly loud to some people. Quiet suburb, conversation at home. Large electrical transformers at 100 feet. 50dB One-fourth as loud as 70 dB.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/03 14:49:49
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That was an early solution before finalized, but the final is around 2000 RPM during Furmark (normal gaming will be lower). During Furmark it is necessary for the fans to spin at 2000RPM. Normal gaming will be quite a bit lower.
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evgacustomer01
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/03 14:54:06
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bcavnaugh
evgacustomer01 are you saying that the sound before was only 23.55dB?
No, it was ~38.6dB as stated by gamingnexus. dB is not a measurement of perceived volume, so you don't double the number of dB to get "twice as loud". Actually, an increase of about 10 dB is considered "twice as loud".
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/03 14:54:10
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bcavnaugh
evgacustomer01 are you saying that the sound before was only 23.55dB?
If you want 0dB I would recommend a Custom Water Loop or the Hybrid Cooler.
The decibel scale doesn't work like that, it's logarithmic. An increase of just 10dB will be perceived as roughly twice as loud. If the card was originally 23db (it wasn't) then 47dB would be over four times as loud to the listener.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/03 14:54:19
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/03 14:55:51
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That was an early solution before finalized, but the final is around 2000 RPM during Furmark (normal gaming will be lower). During Furmark it is necessary for the fans to spin at 2000RPM. Normal gaming will be quite a bit lower.
So is the new BIOS with faster fan speeds necessary even with the new thermal pads, or is it a stopgap measure until the new pads are installed? Even though normal gaming will be lower, there will still be a noticeable increase in noise.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/03 14:57:41
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bcavnaugh
are you saying that the sound before was only 23.55dB?
No. A 6dB increase is perceived by the human ear as a doubling of the loudness.
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evgacustomer01
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/03 15:03:29
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That was an early solution before finalized, but the final is around 2000 RPM during Furmark (normal gaming will be lower). During Furmark it is necessary for the fans to spin at 2000RPM. Normal gaming will be quite a bit lower.
So during normal gaming it's something between 1600 and 2000. That is still going to be louder than all your competitors, isn't it? Also we still have to buy new pads for the RAM, since they are not included in the Thermalmod. So you have the loudest or one of the loudest cards on the market and we still might need to fix the thermal pad situation ourselves.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/03 15:16:40
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bcavnaugh
evgacustomer01 are you saying that the sound before was only 23.55dB?
No, it was ~38.6dB as stated by gamingnexus. dB is not a measurement of perceived volume, so you don't double the number of dB to get "twice as loud". Actually, an increase of about 10 dB is considered "twice as loud".
I see, thank you.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 10:21:03
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Agreed! I am running (2)EVGA GeForce GT 1080 FTW in SLI and they are much louder now. I didn't pay $1400 to have cards this loud. This is why I paid a premium for the FTW editions.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 10:37:39
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Troyhe98
Agreed! I am running (2)EVGA GeForce GT 1080 FTW in SLI and they are much louder now. I didn't pay $1400 to have cards this loud. This is why I paid a premium for the FTW editions.
i think if you can afford 1400$ for 2 1080 then you can also build a custom waterloop with no problems if you have problems with a bit of noise imho i prefer the fans running a bit louder than the risk to burn the card
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 11:26:51
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The point being...one of the deciding factors on purchasing these cards was because they were the quietest cards on the market (besides something on water block). The other issue I am concerned with is the potential decrease in resale value after this mess.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 11:30:12
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People, the only real fix is thermal pads for BOTH the VRM and VRAM.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 12:13:09
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Stop "playing" FurMark, problem solved.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 12:17:48
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somethingc00l
Stop "playing" FurMark, problem solved.
It is kind of like plugging in a 5 VDC Fan in a 12VDC Power Socket, it will run and get hot and then burn up. We have been told not to run FurMark on our NVIDIA Graphics Cards, I remember this as far back as 2002 and by NVIDIA.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 12:26:54
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I noticed this also after installing my thermal pads, but no bios update or anything. I use my own fan curve. Up to 80% fan speed was pretty quiet for me and now it's incredibly loud. . .
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 12:33:03
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pawelblyskal
People, the only real fix is thermal pads for BOTH the VRM and VRAM.
Evga has already stated they will be sending replacement pads for the vram and vrm. There are too many threads going for them to post in every one, but they have already acknowledged that they are sending replacement pads for both. http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2577330
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 12:33:21
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That's why I keep my fans at 100%. My problem is solved.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 14:43:18
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Hello!
Playing BF1 my Classified reaches 61C with a fan speed of 70% and I cant hear the card over the case fans. When I have headphones on I dont hear anything but the game Im playing. Why you all getting your knickers in a bunch?
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 14:48:11
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EVGA_JacobF
That was an early solution before finalized, but the final is around 2000 RPM during Furmark (normal gaming will be lower). During Furmark it is necessary for the fans to spin at 2000RPM. Normal gaming will be quite a bit lower.
Being the practical person I am while I await pads, even though I am water cooled, I uninstalled all my Futuremark stuff :P
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 14:49:47
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EVGA_JacobF
That was an early solution before finalized, but the final is around 2000 RPM during Furmark (normal gaming will be lower). During Furmark it is necessary for the fans to spin at 2000RPM. Normal gaming will be quite a bit lower.
Being the practical person I am while I await pads, even though I am water cooled, I uninstalled all my Futuremark stuff :P
Not Futuremark. Futuremark is fine. Furmark is the problem. Completely different programs.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 14:54:35
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EVGA_JacobF
That was an early solution before finalized, but the final is around 2000 RPM during Furmark (normal gaming will be lower). During Furmark it is necessary for the fans to spin at 2000RPM. Normal gaming will be quite a bit lower.
Being the practical person I am while I await pads, even though I am water cooled, I uninstalled all my Futuremark stuff :P
Not Futuremark. Futuremark is fine. Furmark is the problem. Completely different programs.
OTT Virus based benchmarks should not be ever used. I see it as continually revving your car's engine to the max and then to never expect any problems.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/05 15:15:08
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somethingc00l
Stop "playing" FurMark, problem solved.
Doesn't EVGA Precision X use the same sort of test as FurMark for its OC scanner?
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/06 10:01:43
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Doesn't EVGA Precision X use the same sort of test as FurMark for its OC scanner?
Yes it is similar. I think the big difference is it doesn't use nearly as much "fur" so less heat, it is limited to 2 hour runs for safety, and it has artifact detection so you know when you are on the edge. But personally I wouldn't run that either.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/06 15:15:15
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EVGA_JacobF
That was an early solution before finalized, but the final is around 2000 RPM during Furmark (normal gaming will be lower). During Furmark it is necessary for the fans to spin at 2000RPM. Normal gaming will be quite a bit lower.
So during normal gaming it's something between 1600 and 2000. That is still going to be louder than all your competitors, isn't it? Also we still have to buy new pads for the RAM, since they are not included in the Thermalmod. So you have the loudest or one of the loudest cards on the market and we still might need to fix the thermal pad situation ourselves.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/07 11:32:57
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I have 1080 FTW. After the BIOS update, even during normal gaming, I find it way too loud. Had to go back to original BIOS.
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/09 06:15:48
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My new card (RMA) is constantly running over 2000 RPM. Most times even 2100, it's like a jet engine. Even with only 70° over 2050 RPM. 
post edited by Arnagos - 2016/11/09 06:26:21
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Re: first test of EVGA's 1070 1080 FTW Fix: Thermal Pads and MAKE THE CARD TWICE AS LOUD?
2016/11/09 06:29:47
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just did bios update on my card yesterday.
temps down from 80 to 65~69. i'm happy with this.
however............
holy smokes is it LOUD???????
it is significantly loud at the moment, up to the point that it's actually pissing me off.
reminds me of my old R9 fury, straight up jet engine on takeoff.
needless to say, i am VASTLY dissapointed.
yes they fixed the temp problem, but the decibel levels of the fans are ridiculous.
i've spent over $150 on fans to both cool and be QUIET at the same time. that's 6 x noctua nf-a14 fans at $25 a pop. But it all went down the drain since the gpu is generating an insane amount of noise when fans go above 80% (which is 100% of the time while gaming)
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