I just got the Swiftech h20-220 apex plus and I just want to know your opinions on what I should change from it (got it for $160 at frys so it was too good to pass up) I was wondering if I should stay w the apogee gtz or go get an apogee xt? Would I see a difference thats worth the price? Right now Im only going to WC the cpu and when I go to watercool the cards Ill do a separate loop w at least a triple rad for them. Also any other suggestions would be welcome (such as type of coolant lol)
 
from swiftech
http://www.swiftnets.com/...20-220-APEX-ultima.asp
review
http://metku.net/index.ht...-ultima-plus/index_eng

Ok thanks for the advice. It doesnt actually have an 1156 option on that block but my board has 775 mounting holes so I was just going to use that if it worked. If not i will be calling swiftech to find out about the 1156 one. I noticed the hose that came with it is extremely think to the point that I would have to wrap the anit kink around it one turn at a time. Is that normal or should I get different hose or what?

Thanks YerBuddy I really appreciate all the advice. The boiling water trick is a great idea thanks for telling me about it. Is there a major difference in running the system w the coolant distilled water mix as opposed to just coolant? Im sorry for asking all these questions im just very curious about it and want to learn the most I can before I start. Im hoping to get quick disconnect valves today so that if any leaks happen I only need to drain the one part

Thanks for the advice. Hopefully I dont lose too much of my finger. Im not sure which fittings came w it but I think its barbs

Yea I have some of these which I was going to use
http://www.compusa.com/ap...=5472139&CatId=494
They say theyre 100cmf and they do really good w my h50. Right now the radiator that came with it has the fans set to push but everything ive read says to have them pull. Is this correct or have I looking in the wrong place?

Great_Shovel

Thanks YerBuddy I really appreciate all the advice. The boiling water trick is a great idea thanks for telling me about it. Is there a major difference in running the system w the coolant distilled water mix as opposed to just coolant? Im sorry for asking all these questions im just very curious about it and want to learn the most I can before I start. Im hoping to get quick disconnect valves today so that if any leaks happen I only need to drain the one part

No problem.  The hydrox coolant needs to be mixed with distilled water anyway so you will be good there.  Just read the directions on the mix.  Normally, I run just straight distilled water and use a silver coil for the anti bacterial problem.  I also use colored tubing so I don't need the colored coolant.  Many of the coolants on the market today will leave a residue inside the components and it's hard to get rid of.  There are also some coolants that are known to cause sever glogging of certain blocks.  Straight distilled water is the best in my opinion.  However, the Swiftech hydrox is not bad by any means.  It's the color that I can't stand, but that's a personal opinion again.  Quick disconnects are the way to go also.  Just make sure everything is secure and leak test everything before putting power to the board.  What I normally do is jump the PSU so that there is no power to anything except the pump.  Here is a cheap jumper that you can use:
 
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=28797

YerBuddy

Great_Shovel

Thanks YerBuddy I really appreciate all the advice. The boiling water trick is a great idea thanks for telling me about it. Is there a major difference in running the system w the coolant distilled water mix as opposed to just coolant? Im sorry for asking all these questions im just very curious about it and want to learn the most I can before I start. Im hoping to get quick disconnect valves today so that if any leaks happen I only need to drain the one part

No problem.  The hydrox coolant needs to be mixed with distilled water anyway so you will be good there.  Just read the directions on the mix.  Normally, I run just straight distilled water and use a silver coil for the anti bacterial problem.  I also use colored tubing so I don't need the colored coolant.  Many of the coolants on the market today will leave a residue inside the components and it's hard to get rid of.  There are also some coolants that are known to cause sever glogging of certain blocks.  Straight distilled water is the best in my opinion.  However, the Swiftech hydrox is not bad by any means.  It's the color that I can't stand, but that's a personal opinion again.  Quick disconnects are the way to go also.  Just make sure everything is secure and leak test everything before putting power to the board.  What I normally do is jump the PSU so that there is no power to anything except the pump.  Here is a cheap jumper that you can use:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=28797

Again great advice. Only thing I'll need to add is that I'm using straight distilled water right now, needing a biocide/silver but for now its probably okay cause it's been running for only like 4 days, and I have to tear it down soon to add a 295 block. Stay away from Feser fluid especially, it gunked up my GTZ pretty bad when I was using mine.
 
About the PSU jumping what I like to do is take this old Dell 180W PSU, make sure it's not plugged in yet, then stick a paper clip in the green wire, and a black wire, and that should jumpstart it. To get the paper clip out just use a pencil or pen(non-metal), make sure you don't touch it 'cause I assume it'd hurt.

Great_Shovel

Ok now im really thinking about just using distilled water. What is  biocide/silver. Im assuming its an either or thing but I have never read or heard about using silver and distilled water. Im sorry im such a noob at WCing but you both are giving me great info

Biocide is a chemical to make sure you don't get algae or anything like that growing in the loop. Doesn't affect temps at all as far as I know.
 
Silver is a small silver coil you place in the res and it has the same effect as a biocide really.
 
Distilled water also just looks plain cool, I really like the look it has.

Ah ok thanks. Here I am thinking coolant is what it says it is and lowers the temps but now it doesnt seem like it. I dont generally open my computer so I was iffy on the colored liquid and now it seems smarter just to do distilled water and silver or biocide.
 
Thanks for posting a link to it

If I end up getting a haf 932 or haf X I will definitely take that into consideration but right now I have a haf 922 with a 200mm fan on the side panel cooling my cards so until I add them to a loop I cant even see the oboard temp lcd lol

I have an EVGA 295 HC COOP I would have sold you...
 
It's a great folding card.

Great_Shovel

I want to thank both of you for all your help. I now have a lot more info than I did coming into this and the speed of your replys was awesome. I will let you know what happens when I set it all up sometime in the next week. Again Thank you

Ps I put you both up for BR's at the link in my sig (had wrong link for a while lol) even though halo posted first about it lol

Let us know how it goes and show some pictures when you get it all done.

With that kit you want to make sure that the reservoir is higher than the pump.  This is so that gravity can feed the pump and keep it primed at all times.  Basically, you just need to make sure that the res is feeding the pump and that should be the first part of the loop:
 
Res > Pump > Rad > Block > Res
 
You never want to run the pump without liquid being fed to it directly.  You can burn up a pump fairly quickly if it's run dry.  To answer your question, just make sure the res is higher and feeding the pump first and then it doesn't matter where it's located.

@Yerbuddy, hahaha. Co-op... Bleh. Dual PCB ftw. Voltage tuner.
 
@Greatshovel, my wiring doesn't look too good either I just did the best I could, just try to minimize the amount of connectors you need. Pump location... Just make sure it's below everything else. Well not so much everything just make sure the res is above it. Otherwise it's a serious pain to fill the loop.

Great_Shovel

Halo_003

@Yerbuddy, hahaha. Co-op... Bleh. Dual PCB ftw. Voltage tuner.

@Greatshovel, my wiring doesn't look too good either I just did the best I could, just try to minimize the amount of connectors you need. Pump location... Just make sure it's below everything else. Well not so much everything just make sure the res is above it. Otherwise it's a serious pain to fill the loop.

Thanks. Thats the one part im really dreading. I would be setting it up today but I picked a darn 2684 WU bc I forgot to set the one unit flag. Figured if Im going to be folding it for 3 days might s well get the most out of it

 
Haha ouch, may as well finish it then.