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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/18 18:59:31 (permalink)
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So the 70 and 50 have the exact same bracket?

 
I'm not sure at all. I have an H70 and have installed a H60 recently on another machine. I *think* the H50 and H70 bracket are the same though. Hopefully someone else can confirm that.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/18 20:26:10 (permalink)
I can almost guarantee you that the H50/H70 and the Antec 620/920 are all interchangeable.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/18 20:28:39 (permalink)
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Thats a  good question. I have yet to see one of the coolers up close and personal. Perhaps rafale could chime in? 

 
The teeth are designed so that you can install the bracket loosely first and then insert the cooler and twist it before tightening down the screws. To me they are useless as you can just install the bracket and the cooler all at once so no they are not a must have.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/18 23:15:34 (permalink)
I took some measurement of what I have (Antec 920) and I can confirm that the 620/920/H50/H70 are all the same size so a single bracket design will work on all of them. The bracket will also fit a GTX 480/570 and 580 reference design cards.
 
The inner diameter of the bracket needs to be 73mm or 2 7/8" for the cooler to fit inside. Teeth are not needed.
I wish I could draw it... Also sorry I am a metric guy
The hole pattern for the cooler is a square of 58mm between holes.
The height of the bracket is about 10mm. A clearance of about 3mm is needed as a hold down surface for the cooler meaning that the tab bending down that leads to the screw holes needs to be at least 3mm away from the cutout. I actually have a bracket I can ship if needed. Making one like it but to match a different screw hole pattern would be all that is needed.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/18 23:20:21 (permalink)
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I took some measurement of what I have (Antec 920) and I can confirm that the 620/920/H50/H70 are all the same size so a single bracket design will work on all of them. The bracket will also fit a GTX 480/570 and 580 reference design cards.

The inner diameter of the bracket needs to be 73mm or 2 7/8" for the cooler to fit inside. Teeth are not needed.
I wish I could draw it... Also sorry I am a metric guy
The hole pattern for the cooler is a square of 58mm between holes.
The height of the bracket is about 10mm. A clearance of about 3mm is needed as a hold down surface for the cooler meaning that the tab bending down that leads to the screw holes needs to be at least 3mm away from the cutout. I actually have a bracket I can ship if needed. Making one like it but to match a different screw hole pattern would be all that is needed.

 
That would be perfect. Let's see what Nate has to say about it. 

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/19 00:20:23 (permalink)
Looks like Asetek already thought about this:
 
http://www3.pny.com/GTX-5...DLEfont-P3015C470.aspx

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/19 04:38:12 (permalink)
Hmm, I wonder if the bracket would fit my 470 at all after being modified...

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/19 08:50:18 (permalink)
The 470 has a different hole pattern.
 
Nate, After reading the Corsair blog further, I thing it is simpler and easier to use an original bracket and modifying it. The teeth are necessary because the cooler needs to fit through it. I had completely forgotten about that part. 
I created a template of the part and I can ship you the bracket to modify: It just needs to be a sheet a stainless steel that follows the template, drilled with 4 screw holes and then glued onto an original bracket. PM me your address, I can ship ASAP.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/19 10:42:00 (permalink)
Also, please let me know if you are going to need one of my 480s. It's going to kill me to give it up for a while, but worth it IMO. 

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/19 10:43:47 (permalink)
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Looks like Asetek already thought about this:

http://www3.pny.com/GTX-5...DLEfont-P3015C470.aspx

 
Sweet, except I find find the coolers F/S separate from the GPUs. 

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/19 11:00:32 (permalink)
That and the fact that it might be a 3 slot cooler which would kind of defeats the purpose to me. From my measurements, The Antec 620 actually has the potential of making it a 2 slot deal.
post edited by rafale - 2011/06/19 11:02:54

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/19 12:26:30 (permalink)
This is why I like the H70. From pictures, the block looks to be extremely low profile. Can someone verify this? 

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/19 13:22:27 (permalink)
rafale

The 470 has a different hole pattern.


 
Is it a big enough difference to make this idea not work?

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This is why I like the H70. From pictures, the block looks to be extremely low profile. Can someone verify this? 

 
I believe it would be low profile enough to keep it contained to two slots.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/19 13:42:39 (permalink)

I was looking for the thickness of the H70. I am not 100% sure.
The 620 is 27mm. The 920 is 29mm.
 
I do not own a 470 so I do not know. I just know that it is a different hole pattern. If you could do it, measure the distance between two heatsink holes on your card and I can tell you.
I am considering making the bracket myself actually as it appears not to be too difficult. I am no pro but probably a trip to home depot will tell me more about what tools I need to invest on and whether it is worth it.

 

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/19 13:50:43 (permalink)
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I do not own a 470 so I do not know. I just know that it is a different hole pattern. If you could do it, measure the distance between two heatsink holes on your card and I can tell you.


 
Ok, I'm gonna do that later this week when I've got some extra time to do it. I'll let you know the measurement when I get my hands on it. Hopefully it's doable. Either that or I need to get my hands on a 480 cheap lol.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/20 11:08:20 (permalink)
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rafale

I do not own a 470 so I do not know. I just know that it is a different hole pattern. If you could do it, measure the distance between two heatsink holes on your card and I can tell you.



Ok, I'm gonna do that later this week when I've got some extra time to do it. I'll let you know the measurement when I get my hands on it. Hopefully it's doable. Either that or I need to get my hands on a 480 cheap lol.

 
Bought my second one used for $220 on the B/S/T forum here...

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/20 12:11:14 (permalink)
Ok I decided to give it a shot at making my own bracket. Already bought 3 Antec 620 while they were on sale at J&R for less than $60 each. Home depot did not have any 20 Gauge sheet metal so I went with 16 Gauge. It's gonna be a PITA to cut.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/20 15:18:23 (permalink)
oof... kinda thick. Thats okay, it'll last longer! LoL. 
 
I wonder how hard it would be to get this done in aluminum?

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/20 15:29:31 (permalink)
I looked at aluminum. It looks too flexible at gauge 20 to be made into a bracket.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/20 15:40:54 (permalink)
What about 16? Heh. 

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/20 16:44:42 (permalink)
Couldn't find any at my local home depot...

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/22 10:04:01 (permalink)
I can check and see if I have the original template I used for that blog post.  It does fit 480, 570, and 580 cards without any issues.  Also I found using the straight barbs from the H50 rather than the 90 degree barbs from the H70 works better when using it as a GPU cooler.  I did a machine with two cards in SLI with H70 pumps

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/22 10:15:06 (permalink)
Can I see how you hooked up the two AIO coolers on the GPUs in your case? I am trying to figure out where I would put them.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/22 10:31:45 (permalink)
Get an X2000 and be done with it. I can put three AIO for the GPUs and one for the CPU on mine... 

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/22 10:43:37 (permalink)
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Get an X2000 and be done with it. I can put three AIO for the GPUs and one for the CPU on mine... 

Yea, that option got shot down my the woman, hence the compromise on the 800D.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/23 09:07:42 (permalink)
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rafale

I do not own a 470 so I do not know. I just know that it is a different hole pattern. If you could do it, measure the distance between two heatsink holes on your card and I can tell you.



Ok, I'm gonna do that later this week when I've got some extra time to do it. I'll let you know the measurement when I get my hands on it. Hopefully it's doable. Either that or I need to get my hands on a 480 cheap lol.


Bought my second one used for $220 on the B/S/T forum here...

 
It's a tempting idea but I'd have to find one with a warranty behind it and get rid of my current 470 to afford it. I'd rather just save my money and build a whole new rig when Ivy bridge and Kepler are out which is what I'll probably end up doing. Hopefully my gains will be worth it.
 
@rafale - Still haven't gotten to take that measurement thanks to my schedule this week. When I do though... can you tell what kind of measurement i should be shooting for? Either way, I should get around to it Saturday.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/23 09:43:15 (permalink)
I did find out. the 470/480/570/580 all use the same hole pattern so it is compatible. No need to measure. 

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/23 10:31:07 (permalink)
Perfect!
 
Good work Raf.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/24 13:07:35 (permalink)
rafale

I did find out. the 470/480/570/580 all use the same hole pattern so it is compatible. No need to measure. 

 
That's awesome! now I just need me a bracket.
 
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Good work Raf.

 
Ditto.

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Re:Why not AIO VGA WC options? 2011/06/24 14:05:07 (permalink)
So if I don't get it made by a machine shop, I will make the bracket myself. It will be a bit cheaper but it will take me a long time and it probably will not be as good looking . If you guys are interested I can still make them for you. I will be on a business trip for the next week so I will not get to it until I come back from my trip.

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