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2011/10/02 16:05:29 (permalink)
ok so i opened my case today and tied a few wires and colored them with a sharpie and when i went to turn it on it wouldnt boot and it shows the degub led FF.

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 16:38:03 (permalink)
Check that while tying the wires that you didn't pull a connection loose.
Try switching to one of the ohter BIOS's.

   
     
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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 16:39:34 (permalink)
Is it an instant FF or does it cycle then land on FF.

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 16:40:06 (permalink)
i checked all the wires and i changed the bios switch

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 16:41:18 (permalink)
it an instant FF

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 17:00:55 (permalink)
RMA the motherboard because it sounds like you killed it with static electricity.  Rarely can you recover from the instant FF code.  At this point maybe try unplugging the power main and the 8-pin CPU power and reseat them.  You might also try reseating the CPU and memory too.  If none of that works RMA time.

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 17:02:17 (permalink)
Forgive me, but if I remember correctly,  could you have destroyed the chip when ran up the CPU voltage to 1.9 as you indicated a while back?
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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 17:08:29 (permalink)
That was his last chip.  This one he ran at about ~1.5v @ ~85 C.  If you have another board or chip to try, I would, however based off the code if I had to guess I would say motherboard is dead.

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 17:12:29 (permalink)
its not my cpu cuz i was running at 5.0 at 1.45v and my motherboard has been acting weird showing the wrong date and time and not booting correctly so im gonna rma it cuz i think it defective.

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 17:16:11 (permalink)
Thats probably because the overclock was not stable.....

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 17:23:20 (permalink)
Did you try clearing CMOS? And, or switching to another BIOS chip?

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 17:28:42 (permalink)
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i checked all the wires and i changed the bios switch

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 17:33:08 (permalink)

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/02 20:59:09 (permalink)
everyone thanks for the help and that was a very useful link but ive tried most of those. i will disassemble everything tomorrow and try it on the box and if it doesnt work i will rma.

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 08:20:57 (permalink)
If you ran this CPU at 85C for any length of time I think that is your problem. Correct me if Im wrong but running a sandy higher than mid 70's is a no no.

If you do get this back up and running or you do RMA your board, I highly suggest running at least 30 mins or so of Prime95 to make sure you CPU is stable and at decent temps. Unless you running a very good liquid cooling set up, I would not recommend running a 24/7 CPU at 5.0. Even then your playing with fire......
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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 10:21:43 (permalink)
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If you ran this CPU at 85C for any length of time I think that is your problem. Correct me if Im wrong but running a sandy higher than mid 70's is a no no.

If you do get this back up and running or you do RMA your board, I highly suggest running at least 30 mins or so of Prime95 to make sure you CPU is stable and at decent temps. Unless you running a very good liquid cooling set up, I would not recommend running a 24/7 CPU at 5.0. Even then your playing with fire......


for a 24/7 OC you do not want your temps above 75c, highest, 70c or lower is best.
however running it at 85c will not nuke the chip. it will shut down/throttle as it approaches +95c
 
you do not want to run over >= 1.45 as a permanent OC on an H70. If you were running 1.5v with your setup, on prime95 or LinX your temps would definately be in the +90c range


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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 16:10:31 (permalink)
i was running prime 95 and the temps only went up to 85 for a second and i stopped it so it doesnt get damaged. my temps never go above 60C

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 16:22:30 (permalink)
Honestly, if I were you I would take the advise of the people on this forum and dial your CPU down a bit. Like everyone is saying, 5 + ghz on an OC is overdoing it a bit. Just because it boots to Windows and runs games doesn't mean it's stable at 5.0 +. If you want to see a performance increase, run SLI or upgrade to a 570 or 580.  If your hitting 85C on Prime95 that's too hot and you need to bring the voltages down. I assume you want this CPU to live a little longer than your last?
 
How long were you running Prime95 to hit 85 C just outta curiousity? 

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 18:51:38 (permalink)
i ran it for 10 minutes but when it  went to 85 i stopped.
 
so what ghz and v core would make it stable and good for everyday gaming for all the new games.
 
i also have this memory: http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16820231460
would 9-10-9-28 and 1867mhz be stable for the ram too. but it says 1.5 v but is that the max i should go with those settings or should it be 1.65v

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 19:28:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
I would leave the ram at the default voltage as Sandy's use 1.5v ram by default and is recommended.
 
As for your CPU OC, I would set it at 4.5 and either leave the voltages on auto or lower it to around 1.32 or 1.33. This should produce a stable OC with nice temps. However, every chip is different. You should be able to get a rock solid 4.5 with no more then 1.35 Vcore.
 
An OC of 4.3-4.5 will handle any game you can throw at it.  Just remember to take your time. Start at 4.5 with auto voltages and run Prime95 for 30 mins. If you have good temps ( I would say high 60's, no higher than 70 in my opinion) and do not experience any lockups and or BSOD and crashes, then go back into your bios and lower the Vcore to around 1.33 and retest with Prime95. If you still get good temps without crashes and lockups you can always reduce the Vcore again ( I suggest 0.01 at a time ). However with your H70 you should be fine running 1.35v for the Vcore. 
 
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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 19:50:46 (permalink)
Thanks for taking your time to help. as with all others too. thank you everyone.

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 20:43:19 (permalink)
+1 anything over 4.5 is not noticeable in a game and should be attainable at 1.3-1.35 volts, start low and work your way up. the goal is to be at the lowest temps with the lowest Vcore.  5ghz is unnecessary and will not net you anything except extra temps and possibly a lower life expectancy.
 
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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 22:11:15 (permalink)
you get paid to fold?????????????????? by who? 2k a day just to fold? or is that folding points? whats the point of folding? lol im confused

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 22:15:12 (permalink)
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you get paid to fold?????????????????? by who? 2k a day just to fold? or is that folding points? whats the point of folding? lol im confused


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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 22:21:58 (permalink)
thats really interesting. i wonder how it works. i read that you get evga bucks. what do you do with those?

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/03 22:29:12 (permalink)
nevermind http://www.evga.com/evgabucks      lol
thats really cool its real money. im gonna start folding.

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/04 01:38:36 (permalink)
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nevermind http://www.evga.com/evgabucks      lol
thats really cool its real money. im gonna start folding.


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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/11 17:50:24 (permalink)
ok so i got my rma and i set it up but i still get the instant FF. i used a anti static wrist band so it isnt the static or the motherboard. could it be that my psu is broken or messed up? could the psu cause this?
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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/11 20:01:15 (permalink)
can anyone help? please

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Re:computer wont boot 2011/10/11 20:03:02 (permalink)
It's the board, I had that instant FF code on a X58 Classified once and RMA'd the board.  The replacement I received fired right up.

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