techpcgamer101
yeah i saw that post i just called evga and joey helped me out and doin the step up 2 980 have 2 send my 970 out today

Stephenk291
the sad thing is, nvidia is making out like a bandit from the situation because everyone is just bumping up to the 980 for more $$. I can't imagine vendors are going to eat the cost of the returns so I can only imagine whatever vendor takes the returns back will be making nvidia foot the bill for the costs their incurring.
 
also another funny video.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQAtwFFa2QY

TChittenden II
Step up's are a paid upgrade. EVGA is bending the rules by letting people do one outside the 90 day window if they want to go up to a 980 from a 970 because of this "fiasco" which really isn't a fiasco at all. I'm stepping up from 970 SC's to 970 FTW+'s and look forward to them beating all the a$$ they have been beating the last 6 months, because in reality, nothing has changed, except we know the inner workings, the benchmarks aren't different and these cards still scream.

Zheny
Hmm, on the package it says 4GB vram, why is the last 512MB so much slower that It gimps the FPS so much in games? 3,5 is fine, but I don't want the FPS to suffer if it goes over the 3,5GB. It's like buying a car with 200hp, with a 4 cylinder engine but only 3 work on full load and I only get 50hp of the engine on full load :(

Scarlet-Tech

Scrublet
The problem isn't that the card performs badly.. the problem for me is that I thought i was buying a gtx 980 with less floating performance (4 TFLOPS vs 5 TFLOPS) and less cuda cores.
 
Clearly, i was misled by nvidia and in turn everybody who reviewed their cards on release was misled... i watched linus' 970 review and thought this anyways.
 
Now evga support wants me to spend 350 bucks to step up to a stock 980 when I spent 490 bucks on the 970 ftw...
thats around 840 bucks which I could get the classified or almost a 295x2 in my country(canada) 
 
meh

If you spent 490 on your card, then you would only pay the difference of the cards.

Right now, US price is 379, so you paid 110 over that.

The base model card you could currently step up to, the 980 ACX 2.0 is 549. Add 120 just for differences, and you would be at 669. So, 180 in difference according to your numbers. Where are you getting 350 from?

j2345912

Stephenk291
the sad thing is, nvidia is making out like a bandit from the situation because everyone is just bumping up to the 980 for more $$. I can't imagine vendors are going to eat the cost of the returns so I can only imagine whatever vendor takes the returns back will be making nvidia foot the bill for the costs their incurring.
 
also another funny video.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQAtwFFa2QY

hahaha, I've watched the prior fixer videos, and they really gave me a good laugh, this one was awesome too! I love AMD's sense of humor. Regardless of the actual upsetting drama the 970 has stirred up. It will be funny to see AMD feed & play on this issue for a while. Seeing AMD & Nvidia trading blows is always fun

HarryBojangles
Honestly, I bought a 4gb card for 4gb. And all you guys saying "it doesnt matter look at the performance," but in 1 year 1440p will hit that 3.5gb wall and be all over the place. Just as both of my 670FTW 2gb's hit the 2gb wall and fall apart, if I got the 4gb editions I would not have upgraded to the 970FTW's.
 
Recap - Good now that games use less than 3.5gb. As soon as games crank over that 3.5gb, it will all fall apart. I didnt spend 389$+ shipping for 3.5gb of ram. To say that it caches hardly used resources doesnt mean crap when a game needs 4gb of constantly used resources. So yes, they should of disabled that section and sold it cheaper, not lie to customers. Between the lied about specs and constant coil whine I dont know if I can stick with Nvidia much longer. EVGA too considering since may 2012 I've been through 4 670FTW's (about to RMA another one because it artifacts like crazy on BF4 - not OC'd further - so thats FIVE 670FTW's ill have been through) and now 2 970FTW's(stupid coil whine that hasnt burned in which still gives me headaches from the whine, 3.5gb of vram, less l2 cache, memory crossbar,) in not even 3 years. Absolute worst this has ever been for GPU's for me. All of my ATi cards still run, what gives EVGA? 
 
I use to only hype EVGA for their products and service. But hot snot, 7 cards in 3 years? Might be time to jump to a new vendor, cause thats ridiculous and more than just "bad luck."

drmarc
Just my 2 cents....this is ridiculous how far this fiasco has gone.  I am very satisfied with my purchase of a 970.  I was lucky enough to not even get coil whine.  The only thing I'm let down about is when the day comes where a game needs 4GB of vram and my card won't be able to handle it when I was under the impression that it would be able to.  NVIDIA says they'll be releasing drivers to better allocate the 4GB that the card physically has, so hopefully this won't even be an issue.